B10 Preseeds

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vsmf2010

Quote from: DocWrestling on March 05, 2024, 05:04:55 PMThat is some serious optimism!  I do think Rivera will be a qualifier next year and could even do it this year

Maybe so. I do not think preseason there was a lot of optimism that the Badgers would get 5 qualifiers this year. I seem to remember a poster predicting 2 or 3 back in December or January.

wrestle03

Who really cares if its 4 or 5 qualifiers?  That is a success?  Your standards are very low. 

DocWrestling

I will be honest that as a fan who wants excitement for the NCAA tournament I am probably more interested in All-Americans.  I would rather see 3 All-Americans than have 10 guys qualify and not make it to top 8.

I want top 15 guys that have a chance to make the blood round and be one match/upset from being an All-American.  That is where the excitement is.

We have 2 of those guys for this year.  I want to see that get to maybe 4.  I am extremely impressed by any wrestler that can qualify for the NCAA tournament as an individual accomplishment but those 15 to 32 seeded guys don't create a lot of fan excitement this time of year
Of Course, this is only my opinion and no one elses!

No One Cares

Quote from: DocWrestling on March 06, 2024, 10:55:26 AMI will be honest that as a fan who wants excitement for the NCAA tournament I am probably more interested in All-Americans.  I would rather see 3 All-Americans than have 10 guys qualify and not make it to top 8.

I want top 15 guys that have a chance to make the blood round and be one match/upset from being an All-American.  That is where the excitement is.

We have 2 of those guys for this year.  I want to see that get to maybe 4.  I am extremely impressed by any wrestler that can qualify for the NCAA tournament as an individual accomplishment but those 15 to 32 seeded guys don't create a lot of fan excitement this time of year
This years 125lb weight class has entered the chat... ;D


DocWrestling

I had to look up to see how many outside the top 15 become All-Americans.  Gives me hope for some of our badgers as it is more than I thought especially with guys seeded 20 or higher.

2023
#27 seed finished 7th
#17 finished 8th
#28 seed finished 8th

2022
#21 took 6th
#17 took 7th

2021 (lots of upsets- maybe bad seeding since there was no 2020 season?)
#33 took 8th
#25 took 3rd
#26 took 6th
#26 took 8th
#21 took 8th
#17 took 6th
#19 took 8th (Barnett)
#17 took 7th

2020
Canceled

2019
#26 took 7th
#16 took 5th
#16 took 8th

2018
#28 took 3rd
#27 took 5th
#26 took 7th
#24 took 8th
#23 took 7th
#19 took 6th
#16 took 7th

Of Course, this is only my opinion and no one elses!

hornbuckleb

So who meets or exceeds their Seed.  Keep in mind we did not wrestle Michigan, Rutgers, Penn State, Maryland or Indiana

Barnett 3 YES
Rivera 9 YES
Lettini last DNP
Zargo 7 YES
Mechler 13 DNP
Hamiti 1 NO
Maylor 7 NO
Liegel 7 NO
Otto last DNP
Rosenfeld 12 DNP


Big 10 Bids
125    9  IN
133    7  OUT
141    11 OUT
149    9 IN
157    9 OUT
165    10 IN
174    8 OUT
184    8 IN
197    7 OUT
285    7 OUT

DocWrestling

Am I Wrong to think Maylor and Liegel would be in good position for wild cards if they do not qualify
Of Course, this is only my opinion and no one elses!

vsmf2010

Quote from: DocWrestling on March 07, 2024, 12:05:42 PMAm I Wrong to think Maylor and Liegel would be in good position for wild cards if they do not qualify

Not at all. Max is pretty much a slam dunk to get an at large unless things went really sideways he is 13 in the coaches poll and has a 6 RPI. Liegel would be a little more on the bubble with 16 coaches and 17 RPI but should also get in. DJ and EB are in and Joey should be safe.

Wrestler/Coaches Poll/RPI
EB/4/7
Joey/14/14
DJ/4/2
Max/13/6
Liegel/16/17

CLC FAN

Quote from: DocWrestling on March 06, 2024, 03:01:12 PMI had to look up to see how many outside the top 15 become All-Americans.


Historically (going back to 2009 ish)

A 16 seed has about an 8% chance to AA and if you claimed that seeds 17-33 all have an equal 3% chance to AA, there isn't sufficient evidence to disprove that contention.

For context...
Seed.  % chance of AA
1        97
2        92
3        87
4        79
5        64
6        56
7        52
8        49
9        35
10      36
11      34
12      22
13      10
14      10 
15      11

leg turk

I wish it started tonight. I guess Badger Hockey will do! Let's Go!

wrestlemania

I will be honest that as a fan who wants excitement for the NCAA tournament I am probably more interested in All-Americans.  I would rather see 3 All-Americans than have 10 guys qualify and not make it to top 8.

I agree and they have a good chance of doing so.

Recon

Let's go Badgers! You've all worked so hard this season for this opportunity to represent the UW at B1G and NCAAs. Best of luck this weekend. All UW fans are in your corner!!

wrestle_4ever

Let's go Badgers!
Can't wait to watch the start of action tomorrow in Maryland.
Anyone know if Amos is eligible for an at large selection to the big dance??
It ain't the six minutes...it's what happens in that six minutes

Ghetto

Quote from: Recon on March 08, 2024, 11:18:55 PMLet's go Badgers! You've all worked so hard this season for this opportunity to represent the UW at B1G and NCAAs. Best of luck this weekend. All UW fans are in your corner!!

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As long as we are keeping score, I've got something to prove

bigoil

Quote from: Ghetto on March 09, 2024, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: Recon on March 08, 2024, 11:18:55 PMLet's go Badgers! You've all worked so hard this season for this opportunity to represent the UW at B1G and NCAAs. Best of luck this weekend. All UW fans are in your corner!!

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Let's GO!