Cliff Keen tournament

[lizard king]

Not a bad weekend for the badger wrestlers, tough tourney.

[Ivan Stankowski]

They finished behind U Wyoming, yep great weekend!!!

[leg turk]

If it wasn't for the freshmen phenom's Wick brothers, it would have been a real ugly outcome. 

[Wisconsin Wrestling Fan]

FloWrestling projected Wisconsin to finish 18th with 16 points. (before bonus points)

Wisconsin finished tied for 12th with 56 points. (after bonus points)

And Ben Stone did not enter the tournament at 285 - a very good chance he would have scored some team points.

[crossface21]

Wyoming is ranked 17th, and UW isn't ranked so I don't see what the issue is there. In theory, UW shouldn't be ahead of Wyoming. It would have been nice.

As for saying "if the Badgers didn't have the Wick brothers, their finish would have been ugly". Yeah, but you can bring that argument into it for any team. If OSU didn't have Pletcher, Miles, and Moore, they wouldn't have finished where they did.

[dad 2 5]

FloWrestling projected Wisconsin to finish 18th with 16 points. (before bonus points)

Wisconsin finished tied for 12th with 56 points. (after bonus points)

And Ben Stone did not enter the tournament at 285 - a very good chance he would have scored some team points.

+1
But I understand those that are frustrated as we finished 2nd last year behind Medbery first and Jordan second place finishes.
Very impressed with Evan Wick and his body of work this weekend. And RR some good wins

[wrastle63]

FloWrestling projected Wisconsin to finish 18th with 16 points. (before bonus points)

Wisconsin finished tied for 12th with 56 points. (after bonus points)

And Ben Stone did not enter the tournament at 285 - a very good chance he would have scored some team points.

+1
But I understand those that are frustrated as we finished 2nd last year behind Medbery first and Jordan second place finishes.
Very impressed with Evan Wick and his body of work this weekend. And RR some good wins

There were good performances and some that weren't so good. I thought 125 and 133 were not great, but that is where we are at with those weight classes. I thought 141 and 149 were very impressive. They both were competitive with the 2 seed and were pushing them right up to the whistle. 157 Crone wrestled alright. I thought he should have placed though so a little under. 165 obviously very impressive. 174 and 184 both beat some very good wrestlers that were ranked ahead of them including some matches were they weren't favored. 197 about what was expected.

[npope]

If it wasn't for the freshmen phenom's Wick brothers, it would have been a real ugly outcome. 

Well, that's true, Turk, but they are indeed on the team and wrestling with a W on their chest. So I don't get the implications of making their presence on the Badger squad an asterisk on the team's outing. The coaching staff recruited them, trained them,  and now coach them. They just happen to be a couple of the better performers on the team right now.

[leg turk]

If it wasn't for the freshmen phenom's Wick brothers, it would have been a real ugly outcome. 

Well, that's true, Turk, but they are indeed on the team and wrestling with a W on their chest. So I don't get the implications of making their presence on the Badger squad an asterisk on the team's outing. The coaching staff recruited them, trained them,  and now coach them. They just happen to be a couple of the better performers on the team right now.

What I meant was, they had the talent already before coming here.  Phenoms!

[dad 2 5]

FloWrestling projected Wisconsin to finish 18th with 16 points. (before bonus points)

Wisconsin finished tied for 12th with 56 points. (after bonus points)

And Ben Stone did not enter the tournament at 285 - a very good chance he would have scored some team points.

+1
But I understand those that are frustrated as we finished 2nd last year behind Medbery first and Jordan second place finishes.
Very impressed with Evan Wick and his body of work this weekend. And RR some good wins

well said
There were good performances and some that weren't so good. I thought 125 and 133 were not great, but that is where we are at with those weight classes. I thought 141 and 149 were very impressive. They both were competitive with the 2 seed and were pushing them right up to the whistle. 157 Crone wrestled alright. I thought he should have placed though so a little under. 165 obviously very impressive. 174 and 184 both beat some very good wrestlers that were ranked ahead of them including some matches were they weren't favored. 197 about what was expected.

[mkm13]

What I meant was, they had the talent already before coming here.  Phenoms!

To be fair, you could say that about almost all the elite college kids prior to entering college.  That is what makes recruiting so important. 

Evan Wick was very good in high school, but even so he was only ranked in the 20's overall in his recruiting class.  He has improved a lot since then, and more than most in his class. 

[bigG]

If it wasn't for the freshmen phenom's Wick brothers, it would have been a real ugly outcome. 

Well, that's true, Turk, but they are indeed on the team and wrestling with a W on their chest. So I don't get the implications of making their presence on the Badger squad an asterisk on the team's outing. The coaching staff recruited them, trained them,  and now coach them. They just happen to be a couple of the better performers on the team right now.

What I meant was, they had the talent already before coming here.  Phenoms!

Kyle Dake, the Mongoose, Imar. All just phenoms.

[wrastle63]

If it wasn't for the freshmen phenom's Wick brothers, it would have been a real ugly outcome. 

Well, that's true, Turk, but they are indeed on the team and wrestling with a W on their chest. So I don't get the implications of making their presence on the Badger squad an asterisk on the team's outing. The coaching staff recruited them, trained them,  and now coach them. They just happen to be a couple of the better performers on the team right now.

What I meant was, they had the talent already before coming here.  Phenoms!

I am sorry but this is one of the stupidest things I have read. Man Penn State would have had a real ugly outcome at NCAAs last year if they didn't have all those kids who were good in HS. THAT IS THE POINT!

[Live2Pin]

Ohio State did what they did without Olympic Champ Snyder, NCAA champ Tomasello and recent world bronze medalist Joey McKenna.

[Ivan Stankowski]

Wyoming is ranked 17th, and UW isn't ranked so I don't see what the issue is there. In theory, UW shouldn't be ahead of Wyoming. It would have been nice.

As for saying "if the Badgers didn't have the Wick brothers, their finish would have been ugly". Yeah, but you can bring that argument into it for any team. If OSU didn't have Pletcher, Miles, and Moore, they wouldn't have finished where they did.

The theory is Wisconsin should have a lot more to offer than Wyoming when it comes to recruiting, if your happy finishing behind Wyoming thats cool, it does not set well with me that is all