WIAA Board of Control votes to seed team state

[DocWrestling]

Have not seen official word yet but WIAA Board of Control approved seeding WIAA state basketball and wrestling team state tournaments.

Also approved shot clock in basketball.  Goes into effect 2019/2020?

[TomM]

Beginning next season, the State Tournament in team wrestling will also be seeded by coaches of qualifying teams. The process will replicate the procedure approved in boys hockey. Another wrestling recommendation approved for 2017-18 increases the total number of medals awarded to 28 at the State Team Tournament, which equals the number of eligible athletes. In other wrestling-related discussions, the Board was informed of a change in the Feb. 1, one-pound growth allowance to take effect on the date of the first regional competition.

[ramjet]

This is step in the right direction.

Getyourpounts what say you?

[Coach V]

From what I understand, the pound would be given at Regionals instead of February 1st. So 106 would still be 109 at Regionals.

[Bigfellow]

So when is the seeding being done?
At team Sectionals or after the teams make it to state?

[Coach V]

Thursday at Individual State. D1 seeds(separates) themselves, D2 and D3 vote for seeding(separation) for their 2 divisions. That's the way it was explained to us.
D1 - top 4
D2 & D3-top 2

I say seed it all or none. If 2 and 3 are voting for each other then all divisions vote for each other. It may take some homework from some teams but its easy enough to do nowadays. Do it right or not at all. I get it, its a step in the right direction. Don't be satisfied with 50%.

[Troy Grindle]

I am not sure why they wouldn't seed all the way down??

The 2 and 3 seeds are probably the most important in D2 and D3.  Similar to the 4-5 seed in D1.  With only having seeding for the top 50% of teams it could get political and emotional for coaches voting on those seeds for a coach/team they like or don't like.

I really hope that they seed all the way down.  I think it will be less intrusive for the head coaches to vote then.

[Jimmy]

4 wrestles 5 first round in eight team bracket . Why does it matter?

[Troy Grindle]

If you only seed the first four teams then the other four just get randomly put in.  So the 5th team as voted on by the coaches could end up wrestling the 1 seed.  In d1.

[Jimmy]

I get that but the object of seeding is to separate the perceived best teams. If it perceived that you are not one of the best then what is the difference when you wrestle who. You need three upsets to win it all.

[FinalWord]

I get that but the object of seeding is to separate the perceived best teams. If it perceived that you are not one of the best then what is the difference when you wrestle who. You need three upsets to win it all.

I disagree with the argument that you don't seed the last four teams or last two teams in a 4 team bracket. It's more than simply separating 1 and 2. All teams need to  be seeded and placed in brackets accordingly.

[Barou]

I get that but the object of seeding is to separate the perceived best teams. If it perceived that you are not one of the best then what is the difference when you wrestle who. You need three upsets to win it all.

I disagree with the argument that you don't seed the last four teams or last two teams in a 4 team bracket. It's more than simply separating 1 and 2. All teams need to  be seeded and placed in brackets accordingly.

All teams should be seeded and teams that are defeated should wrestle for 3rd (D2 and D3) and 3rd and 5th (D1).

Another WIAA half measure. 

[MNbadger]

If you wrestle back to third then seeding is only necessary for making sure of third vs second. 

[woody53]

I get that but the object of seeding is to separate the perceived best teams. If it perceived that you are not one of the best then what is the difference when you wrestle who. You need three upsets to win it all.

I disagree with the argument that you don't seed the last four teams or last two teams in a 4 team bracket. It's more than simply separating 1 and 2. All teams need to  be seeded and placed in brackets accordingly.

All teams should be seeded and teams that are defeated should wrestle for 3rd (D2 and D3) and 3rd and 5th (D1).

Another WIAA half measure. 

As recommended by the Coaches Association. So Blame the WIAA.

[Ghetto]

I hate wine.