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WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Update Coaching Contact Ru...

Last post by hutgoose - Today at 07:57:57 AM

Do you know these coaches' relationship the wrestlers? Some coaches do have  children who wrestle and other family as well. Is there a rule against that?

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Discuss Wisconsin Collegiate Wrestling - All Divisions / Re: Challenger to Cael/PSU/NLW...

Last post by Ghetto - Yesterday at 10:38:59 PM

Gilman coming over from NLWC was smart on DTs part. Yin to Yang

Oklahoma State is back.

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Discuss Wisconsin Collegiate Wrestling - All Divisions / Re: Challenger to Cael/PSU/NLW...

Last post by leg turk - Yesterday at 09:39:21 PM

Ok state has it figured out. Now they hire Fix to run their RTC.

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WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Freestlye Champs for each ...

Last post by Scramble_king - Yesterday at 07:00:44 PM

I wonder what % of athletes to win and place from each club would be.

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Discuss Wisconsin Collegiate Wrestling - All Divisions / Re: Iowa States new proposed c...

Last post by DocWrestling - Yesterday at 11:39:02 AM

Sounds like this is delayed and may not be happening due to the changing landscape of college athletics. It takes a bit of a gambler to be investing in wrestling or any of the olympic sports right now.  I don't think many athletic departments are taking the race or proliferation of wrestling only facilities too seriously.  I don't think Penn St or Iowa and the crowds they get are even making money as a stand alone program

#6

WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Freestlye Champs for each ...

Last post by Ghetto - May 09, 2024, 10:09:05 PM

I think we all hit more than 3 clubs back in the day

Man I hit so many clubs back in the day...

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WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Freestlye Champs for each ...

Last post by rankwizard - May 09, 2024, 03:42:57 PM

I think we all hit more than 3 clubs back in the day

#8

WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Update Coaching Contact Ru...

Last post by mulletwrestler - May 09, 2024, 02:34:59 PM

It has to be the same across the board.  There were multiple HS coaches in the corners coaching this past weekend.

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WIWrestling Main Forum / Re: Update Coaching Contact Ru...

Last post by 21Headlocks - May 09, 2024, 01:32:21 PM

My 2 cents:

To basically circumvent current rules in place that protect coaches and student/athletes from the "more, more, more" mentality and say that Greco & Freestyle is different , I believe is irresponsible.

As a high school coach of 30 years that had wrestlers consistently qualify and place at the State tournament, I have a different view regarding that some coaches vote against the idea of having more contact time  - and it's not because they "don't want to look bad" compared to neighboring communities.

I contend that maybe some coaches are capable of getting great results in the time that they work with their wrestlers from Nov - March.  And in reality, if you're not able to move the needle with regard to in-season success during that time, then maybe you need to look in the mirror and reassess what and how you're doing business.

I also believe there is value, which I saw through the years with some of our wrestlers, in the Greco/Freestyle wrestling. However , instead of being in the practice room in the Spring/Summer, rely on your in-home club to deliver the coaching, practice , strategy, etc.... This allows your high school coaching staff to get the natural time-away break from their athletes as well as the athletes getting a break from their coaches. That's a good thing!!  And, the kids are still getting exposure to the positive benefits of what Greco/Freestyle wrestling offers.

More time together with their high school athletes is a slippery slope.  I believe it puts undo pressure on the athlete to do "more" and that's not a good thing.  It's ok to tell kids to take a break, be a kid, enjoy/experience other things than wrestling.  We'll get together again in Nov. and work hard through March!

Again , this is my view, but it's based on high-level success through the years. And, success was achieved through not only hard work in the practice room, but also by teaching our athletes the value of being a good team mate, good student, being ethical , not taking short cuts, etc...core value type of things.  You can do all of this from Nov - March and have your wrestlers reap the benefits..."more" time together is not the simple answer nor is it the "right" answer from where I stand.

Respectfully,

Success without "more"

I completely agree with this. I saw quite a few HS coaches coaching at various Greco/Freestyle events this year. You need to have rules against HS coaches doing this so these athletes can thrive in other sports and have that balance in the non-contact months. Most Greco/Freestyle wrestlers have connections outside of their HS coaches to work on those which should be considered their own season. I understand some kids may not have the resources to go to these training facilities but that's where local wrestling clubs should step in, NOT HS COACHES. It's unfair to the coaches that follow the contact rules, especially since there seems to be a correlation with the HS coaches I saw not having much success in their respective schools. Just my two cents. I agree the WIAA needs to clarify/redefine the rules around it.

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Discuss Wisconsin Collegiate Wrestling - All Divisions / Re: Challenger to Cael/PSU/NLW...

Last post by bigoil - May 09, 2024, 01:07:57 PM

Agree with what is being said by Barry, dman and asdf.

If you look at badger wrestling aside from the room, which is the same room many of us went to camp in 40+ years ago the other facilities and amenities UW brings are right up there. They fly to meets, World class lifting literally outside the wrestling room, nutritionist, and strength and conditioning. A former wrestler as an AD.

RTC transparency needs to improve no doubt.