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Started by Fan1, December 03, 2025, 09:52:26 AM

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Ghetto

Quote from: picklesnthings on December 15, 2025, 09:43:50 AMIs there a place to see a wrestlers season record?  Like on track you could go to a tournament, click on the bracket and see everyone's records (and track would update them as the tournament proceeded).  The only thing I am finding on usa bracketing is if you go to the wrestlers profile, but that record is over the past year.

Also - is anyone else seeing issues with the seeding of tournaments?  Not sure if its people not doing it correctly or if its a usa bracketing issue.  Both tournaments I have been in had state qualifiers (which was the first criteria) seeded 15th, 23rd, and one bracket had one at 27th which was almost last, while 0-0 first year wrestlers were getting top seeds. What's frustrating is it doesn't get fixed and we had state qualifiers meeting in rounds 1 and 2 of a 32 person bracket. 

If you click on a kid's name you should get their record. Go to follow, click on a bracket, and click the underlined name of a wrestler.

Seeding was an issue at one of the tournaments we were at on the first weekend as well.
As long as we are keeping score, I've got something to prove

TheoFast

I'm starting to like it

I really like the feature that gives you an estimated in the hole and match time for each bout number

I would like to see a clearer results page
post 1st thru 5th place, don't make me wade thru all of the results
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padre

Results need a lot of work. 

Some of the stuff better such as weigh in sheets and entering wrestlers.

However, results and the easiness to get results need a lot of work.

MTA

As far as I know no rule has changed to eliminate forfeit and bye wins, so why isn't USA Bracketing counting them towards wrestler's records? This better not be an issue with auto seeds at the big holiday tournaments!

This needs to be addressed!
M.T.A.
"Weak is the very worst thing one can be." - Henry Rollins

rankwizard

That, and a couple other things needs to be addressed.

It is working though.

hohensee

Quote from: padre on December 15, 2025, 02:08:33 PMResults need a lot of work. 

Some of the stuff better such as weigh in sheets and entering wrestlers.

However, results and the easiness to get results need a lot of work.

I have found the best way to see overall results is to go under the reports option, and then select 'final placements' in the report drop down.

If you want to see an individual team results, select 'Bouts by Team then Wrestler' in the drop down.

Took me a little while to find where they are hidden, but those seem to be the ones that I want the most. Kinda weird that they aren't under the results tab, but they are there.

Fan1

There are many nice things about USABracketing that people in this thread have called out.  I like the bout numbers, expected wait times etc.

Some open items I see are below.  Happy to hear if anyone has found workarounds.

Did the WIAA put out their expectations for duals?  How should teams run weigh-ins, are paper copies signed by official and other teams coach still required?

How does the WIAA expect teams to enter dual results?  USABracketing has tutorial videos but it seems like results can be entered 2 or 3 different ways.  (Live scoring, independent bouts or results etc)  This coupled with formatting and limited sorting functions is making reading results for tournaments and duals very difficult for everyone.  Additionally, it seems some results don't display at the wrestler profile history level, possibly impacting state seeding?

What is the expectation or recommendation on JV matches at dual meets in terms of how and where they are logged.  Just one off independent results?  What about running girls dual alongside the boys with smaller girls teams?  Do we set up and run an entirely separate girls dual for 2 matches?

Seeding -
Why do coaches have to calculate winning percentages for every tournament?  As mentioned above, USABracketing wrestler records are not accurate due to byes, forfeits and teams not entering dual results.  So coaches maintain a separate system to track their wrestlers' records and calculate winning percentages? 

Is there no way for coaches to see seeding for a bracket?  The Trackwrestling pre-seed system was great, and coaches could catch criteria errors before a tournament.  Now, we can't even see seeding after brackets are released.  This is a big issue as the USABracketing system does not handle null values for criteria well.
Each wrestler for each tournament requires 3-7 criteria.  We have found many inconsistencies here that could be caught in the night or days before tournaments if coaches could see pre-seeds.  Things like not selecting a drop-down for DNP or entering zero for a given criteria versus leaving it blank will send your wrestler to the bottom of the seeds.

Results as people have called out need a makeover.  It should be easy to pull up and sort a teams results by weight.  The randomness of the match order for results needs to be cleaned up and should be an easier fix.     

picklesnthings

I think each coach has to 'commit' results before the records will be correct.  After I did this my wrestles records were correct with what I have -even with byes or forfeits.  I had to email usa bracketing to figure this out.  Commit results from your schedule, then go to your roster and click all your wrestlers and click update record.  Then go back to your roster and click the three bars by your wrestler, it will take you to another page to see your wrestler's record.  You can see other teams wrestlers records the same way but you have to go to their roster and do the same thing and only if that coach has updated their records.  Even if the records isn't updated you can still see that wrestlers match history for the 25/26 year.  Lots of clicks to do this though.

takdwn2

Why did people screw up such a good thing?
Trackewrestling was so easy to use.
Easy to enter data, easy to find results. Easy easy easy.
I used it for 17 ish years and every year it got better.

Now we have Flo and USA bracketing.
Flo is terrible and crashes all the time. Video crashes all the time.
USA bracketing is so hard to find any info on it. Such a huge step backward.

Why, probably money like always.

Why did the wrestling community screw up such a good thing with Track?
If you want the sport to grow you need it to be easy to follow, for everyone!

DKelly28

I noticed today that the Badger State Invitational switched its bracket type this year to 32 Man Cons WB-3rd Place 6 after using 32 Man Cons. Format 3 Place 8 on Track Wrestling in the years prior.

Any other tournaments switch bracket types with the switch to USA Bracketing?

crossface21

The bracket type they wanted wasn't provided by USA Bracketing. So yeah....

Handles II

Quote from: takdwn2 on December 20, 2025, 05:07:41 PMWhy did people screw up such a good thing?
Trackewrestling was so easy to use.
Easy to enter data, easy to find results. Easy easy easy.
I used it for 17 ish years and every year it got better.

Now we have Flo and USA bracketing.
Flo is terrible and crashes all the time. Video crashes all the time.
USA bracketing is so hard to find any info on it. Such a huge step backward.

Why, probably money like always.

Why did the wrestling community screw up such a good thing with Track?
If you want the sport to grow you need it to be easy to follow, for everyone!
The "wresting community" didn't screw up trackwrestling, it was sold to Flo and the non-compete ended, so USA Bracketing, became what the WIAA decided to mandate for use.

beastmode

Is it a requirement for coaches or the tournament director to put in the actual weight into the USABracketing system? Some tournaments they do and others they do not. I think it would help keep everyone accountable for the weight descent requirements. 
To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift.
Steve Prefontaine

littleguy301

Quote from: beastmode on December 22, 2025, 10:38:20 AMIs it a requirement for coaches or the tournament director to put in the actual weight into the USABracketing system? Some tournaments they do and others they do not. I think it would help keep everyone accountable for the weight descent requirements. 

I really don't like to see the actual weight entered. These are underage athletes and privacy should be held accountable. The athletes have their own decent plan and no one else's business what it is unless the athlete wants to share that information. Sorry but these are underage athletes/students and weight/injuries/medical should NOT be information that is passed around. Simple what is the weight class amount and that is fine?

Would you ask a tennis player there personal information?
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beastmode

Quote from: littleguy301 on December 22, 2025, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: beastmode on December 22, 2025, 10:38:20 AMIs it a requirement for coaches or the tournament director to put in the actual weight into the USABracketing system? Some tournaments they do and others they do not. I think it would help keep everyone accountable for the weight descent requirements. 

I really don't like to see the actual weight entered. These are underage athletes and privacy should be held accountable. The athletes have their own decent plan and no one else's business what it is unless the athlete wants to share that information. Sorry but these are underage athletes/students and weight/injuries/medical should NOT be information that is passed around. Simple what is the weight class amount and that is fine?

Would you ask a tennis player there personal information?
I disagree. In wrestling, actual weight is a competitive variable, not private trivia. Transparency matters.

Publishing weight helps ensure fair matchups, prevents manipulation of entries, and keeps the process honest for everyone involved — coaches, officials, and athletes. Weight classes alone don't always tell the full story, especially when strategic movement between classes is common.

This isn't about sharing medical records or sensitive health data. It's a sport built entirely around weight, and that reality doesn't change just because the athletes are underage. They already step on a scale, compete in public brackets, and are judged on where they land.

If we want consistency, fairness, and integrity in the event, actual weight should be part of the entry process. That transparency protects the field rather than harming it.
To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift.
Steve Prefontaine