Projected 24-25 Badger Roster & Starters

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Wisconsin Wrestling Fan

Based on Coach Bono's recent interview, and adding incoming freshman, here is the projected roster:

125 - Rivera, Skebba, Spurley RS
Rivera expected to start

133 - Fugitt, Kruse
Fugitt expected to start

141 - Bobzien, Coy, Exferd, Biba RS
Bobzien has the edge but Coy and Exferd (True Freshman) are pushing for spot

149 - George, Nilo, Medora, Zargo - possible redshirt
Zargo may redshirt so starter is undetermined. Could be a great battle between George, Nilo and Medora.

157 - Mechler, Model, Goebel
Mechler has the edge as the returning starter.

165 - Anderson, Sheen, Jens RS
Anderson expected to start

174 - Condon. Mitrovich
Condon expected to start

184 - Russo FR, Malin RS
Russo expected to start

197 - Coluccio, Ingham RS?
Starter undetermined. 

285 - Rosenfeld, Empey, Schmidtke, Amos - possible redshirt
Rosenfeld has the edge if Amos redshirts.

We could have Freshman starters at 133, 141, 149, 174, 184. Possibly 197 as well.

Roster total stands at 29 at uwbadgers.com.
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mkm13

If Zargo and Amos redshirt, this could be a historically bad year.  We will struggle to get one take down let alone a win against Iowa and Nebraska.  It is a good thing we dont have PSU, OSU, and Michigan on the schedule this year.

dad 2 5

Quote from: mkm13 on October 25, 2024, 08:03:27 AMIf Zargo and Amos redshirt, this could be a historically bad year.  We will struggle to get one take down let alone a win against Iowa and Nebraska.  It is a good thing we dont have PSU, OSU, and Michigan on the schedule this year.

agree, scary to think about

VQOriginal

Rumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.

Ghetto

Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 11:28:33 AMRumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.

Wut

A little more information might be helpful here.
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VQOriginal

Quote from: Ghetto on October 27, 2024, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 11:28:33 AMRumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.

Wut

A little more information might be helpful here.


Due to the current NCAA situation with the House ruling. It's a rumor. But, I wouldn't be surprised. MN will be taking a look at what they'll be changing as well.

littleguy301

Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on October 27, 2024, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 11:28:33 AMRumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.

Wut

A little more information might be helpful here.


Due to the current NCAA situation with the House ruling. It's a rumor. But, I wouldn't be surprised. MN will be taking a look at what they'll be changing as well.

I believe the gophers are going to 12 scholarships.

Yes this is going to hitthe badgers wrestling very hard for sure. Going to 5 scholarships is going to hurt.

Wonder if Zargo and Amos will get to re shirt? Hurts to have 2 of the 5 scholarships sitting out a year!
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hwabtD3gtsmcred

If this scholarship reduction is true then the coaching staff has been doing some good work and their research. Finding good wrestlers with academics to boot. I know several of last years recruits were also valedictorian of their class and I believe several of next years are in line for it too (I heard Denee, Imhoff, and maybe McDowell are top of their classes) Solid wrestlers with enormous potential who can make it at the U and they can get good academic $? They won't take $50 grand and leave like others earlier this season.....

Using the only tools they have to build a program.

bbguylikeswrestling

Quote from: hwabtD3gtsmcred on October 29, 2024, 10:00:48 AMIf this scholarship reduction is true then the coaching staff has been doing some good work and their research. Finding good wrestlers with academics to boot. I know several of last years recruits were also valedictorian of their class and I believe several of next years are in line for it too (I heard Denee, Imhoff, and maybe McDowell are top of their classes) Solid wrestlers with enormous potential who can make it at the U and they can get good academic $? They won't take $50 grand and leave like others earlier this season.....

Using the only tools they have to build a program.

Endene and Hamiti?

Kyle Reeve

Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 11:28:33 AMRumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.
As a simpleton, can you explain how the universities are deciding to reduce/increase the number of Scholarships they are giving out? I remember back in summer I saw something about NCAA approving 30 scholarship spots, in my head (again simple minded) I thought that is great, they are now going to have the possibility for 30 FULL scholarships. I was clearly mistaken. I see that Campbell University is likely going to go away do to the changes.

So if I am understanding you post, are they now reducing from 9.9 to 5? How and by who is this decided by? Is it because the revenue sports now have more scholarship spots and they are likely pooling the money to football and basketball?

It was already tough to get money out as a wrestling program to wrestlers...having personally experienced this I cannot believe they would reduce even further than when I was in college...this is seemingly horrible for UW Wrestling and college wrestling in general. Help me understand this better.

BadgerOne

Bono hasn't really done much with 9.9. But as far as I know, he still has been using 9.9 and I imagine there are a lot of kids with good scholarships that haven't contributed at NCAAs.  If Bono can't recruit elite talent, not sure if any reduction in scholarships would make a noticeable difference.

Handles II

Quote from: Kyle Reeve on October 29, 2024, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: VQOriginal on October 27, 2024, 11:28:33 AMRumor is, Badgers will be cut down to 5 scholarships.
As a simpleton, can you explain how the universities are deciding to reduce/increase the number of Scholarships they are giving out? I remember back in summer I saw something about NCAA approving 30 scholarship spots, in my head (again simple minded) I thought that is great, they are now going to have the possibility for 30 FULL scholarships. I was clearly mistaken. I see that Campbell University is likely going to go away do to the changes.

So if I am understanding you post, are they now reducing from 9.9 to 5? How and by who is this decided by? Is it because the revenue sports now have more scholarship spots and they are likely pooling the money to football and basketball?

It was already tough to get money out as a wrestling program to wrestlers...having personally experienced this I cannot believe they would reduce even further than when I was in college...this is seemingly horrible for UW Wrestling and college wrestling in general. Help me understand this better.
You are basically correct. From my understanding, colleges can offer UP TO 30 scholarships, taking away the prerequisite 9.9. While it sounds good at first, by removing the 9.9, each college can decide, based on the money they have and booster clubs have, how many scholarships they will offer. A school like PSU that between it's RTC and wrestling booster has somewhere around $9 million, will probably be able to offer 30 full and partial scholarships. Iowa is in a similar situation financially. Most programs outside of the perennial top 5, where the wrestling fanbase is large and fanatical, will be hurt by this ruling and NIL in general. 
As I understand it, new revenue sharing rules are dictating that 85% of all incoming money goes to football scholarships, then mens/women's basketball, then mens/women's hockey (for those who have it) and down the line.
Quite honestly women's wrestling, like men's is going to be in trouble at the D1 level. Title IX, which initially hurt wrestling programs because of the misuse of the very vague and non-descript rules that A.D.'s were to "follow", might be the only hope for helping the sport if lawsuits start happening.

VQOriginal

The schools themselves will have the discretion of who gets how much money if any. Low revenue sports will obviously take the hit. People for some reason, thought the "scholarships for all spots" meant that schools were just going to hand out money. If we have been paying attention, that is clearly not the case. Campbell university went from 9.9 to 3. And then forced those three to go elsewhere. So essentially, 0 scholarships.

I am trying to recall, but I believe the Badgers wrestling team brought in $180,000 in revenue last year? I could be off on that. But, that means the athletic department probably isn't going to invest much in that sport. Trickle down economics will basically the model. Now, as I stated, the cut to 5 scholarships is a rumor. I hear a lot of stuff. But, this would not shock me.

DocWrestling

Football used to only have 85 scholarships and will now have 105.  Dont' have to but all big D1 programs will likely cut 20 scholarships from men's non-revenue sports to stay even in money and Title IX.  Walk-ons will not exist anymore

Basketball will go from 13 to 15 scholarships- 2 more scholarships need to be cut from men's non-revenue sports.

Both football and basketball could also give partial scholarships now to save money maybe on the last 20 scholarships maybe for specialists.
Of Course, this is only my opinion and no one elses!

bjb0501

Would the wrestling programs at schools without a football team now be more stable and more appealing to recruits?  Would NAIA schools look more stable and appealing to recruits?