What is up with Endene leaving?

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Quote from: MNbadger on September 25, 2024, 06:20:05 PMhttps://www.yahoo.com/sports/matthew-sluka-leaves-unlv-over-100k-nil-dispute-amid-growing-tensions-in-college-footballs-pay-for-play-era-195921691.html

I just read this on the Athletic and was coming to the forum to post about it but you beat me to it MN. I could definitely see this happening in wrestling where a freshman uses up his free dates and decides not to wrestle attached any more so he can conserve his eligibility and enter the portal after the season hoping to get an NIL payday. I do not think there is any going back now!


Handles II

There's a definite possibility that through the Wartburg system that Endene got an NIL offer. They want another National Championship, no doubt, and they take wrestling very seriously, and have deep pockets. Additionally, I've heard that Endene was taking a higher credit load than recommended by the coaching staff, and reportedly dropped at least one class within the first 10 days of school. Wartburg isn't widely known for high expectations from student athletes, perhaps, like with MANY UW students, the academic rigor wasn't something they were ready for.

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Quote from: Handles II on October 04, 2024, 07:51:57 AMThere's a definite possibility that through the Wartburg system that Endene got an NIL offer. They want another National Championship, no doubt, and they take wrestling very seriously, and have deep pockets. Additionally, I've heard that Endene was taking a higher credit load than recommended by the coaching staff, and reportedly dropped at least one class within the first 10 days of school. Wartburg isn't widely known for high expectations from student athletes, perhaps, like with MANY UW students, the academic rigor wasn't something they were ready for.

C'mon!!! Of all the reasons to get on a forum and ASSume an athlete left a program is the "possibility" of NIL, and seeing he overscheduled his semester and dropped a class he can't handle the academic rigor???  I can't tell if this is just sour grapes/Bono Badger homerism or something else?  Seriously, why even get on here to post this?

-Takes 10 seconds on Google to see Wartburg does have an NIL program for wrestling.  It has monthly goals of $420/month.  Mo isn't listed as one of the athletes. If he was he gets to split that $420 with around 4-5 other wrestlers (couple WI HS'ers listed by the way).
-If he was offered some double secret $$, shame on Badgers for getting outbid.  For probably the 5th time--Badgers RTC and admin finanical support is around 15th in the nation for d1, yet they can't outbid Wartburg?  Thats a Badger problem, not a Mo problem.
-While Wartburg is a top d3, to think they are rolling in donors and $$ is crazy talk.  This one took me almost a minute on Google--"In terms of financials, the Wartburg wrestling program paid out $313,910 in expenses and made $313,910 in total revenue."  Thats $3 million across 12 coaches and 64 (64!) wrestlers.
-I didn't see you getting on here and wondering how Seth Leigel would handle the vaulted UW education with his Masters degre? He also came from a Iowa D3 program that also has a 90% acceptance rate.  By your own admission, Mo overscheduled and then dropped a class...do you even know how registering for classes at Madison goes?  1,000's of students do that every semester there.  Why even throw out there that maybe he wasn't ready for the academic rigor?

Maybe, just maybe--a top D3 program with 64 athletes that is less then 2 hours and connections with Iowa RTC is actually a better place for an athlete with bigger aspirations then college then a 50th ranked D1 program with no RTC athletes?

Handles II

If you weren't aware, NIL money doesn't have to come from the program. UW-L has track athletes who get NIL money from local businesses. If you don't think that Wartburg has people willing to pay for a national champion to return, you don't know much about wrestling in Iowa.

A grad student taking 15 credits at Madison is completely different than being an undergrad at Wartburg. FYI 9 credits is a full load for a grad student but according to my source, he chose to take more classes than recommended. Once again, if you think they are the same, you don't understand much about colleges. #158 academically in D3 Nationally vs #35 out of all colleges of all divisions nationally and #39 worldwide.

Seth Liegel wasn't discussed because he transferred to UW and stayed. He didn't leave after 10 days of college classes, so it wasn't a topic, was it? Bringing him into the discussion doesn't make any sense at all.

Junkyardpig

 
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C'mon!!! Of all the reasons to get on a forum and ASSume an athlete left a program is the "possibility" of NIL, and seeing he overscheduled his semester and dropped a class he can't handle the academic rigor???  I can't tell if this is just sour grapes/Bono Badger homerism or something else?  Seriously, why even get on here to post this?

-Takes 10 seconds on Google to see Wartburg does have an NIL program for wrestling.  It has monthly goals of $420/month.  Mo isn't listed as one of the athletes. If he was he gets to split that $420 with around 4-5 other wrestlers (couple WI HS'ers listed by the way).
-If he was offered some double secret $$, shame on Badgers for getting outbid.  For probably the 5th time--Badgers RTC and admin finanical support is around 15th in the nation for d1, yet they can't outbid Wartburg?  Thats a Badger problem, not a Mo problem.
-While Wartburg is a top d3, to think they are rolling in donors and $$ is crazy talk.  This one took me almost a minute on Google--"In terms of financials, the Wartburg wrestling program paid out $313,910 in expenses and made $313,910 in total revenue."  Thats $3 million across 12 coaches and 64 (64!) wrestlers.
-I didn't see you getting on here and wondering how Seth Leigel would handle the vaulted UW education with his Masters degre? He also came from a Iowa D3 program that also has a 90% acceptance rate.  By your own admission, Mo overscheduled and then dropped a class...do you even know how registering for classes at Madison goes?  1,000's of students do that every semester there.  Why even throw out there that maybe he wasn't ready for the academic rigor?

Maybe, just maybe--a top D3 program with 64 athletes that is less then 2 hours and connections with Iowa RTC is actually a better place for an athlete with bigger aspirations then college then a 50th ranked D1 program with no RTC athletes?
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There are not 4/5 listed on that NIL site for Wartburg.  It literally says 29 atheletes on there.  29 splitting currently 10$ raised this month LOL.

MNbadger

I posited this previously but maybe he likes Wartburg better than Madison. 
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