NIL

[thats2!]

Does anyone wanna come together and sue the WIAA? If you know of other clubs/sports interested feel free to name drop. I'll find their info and reach out. We have clubs with money that want to help kids out. It's about the kids.

To be fair the WIAA predicted they would be sue'd if they didn't pass it and the member schools voted roughly 45%-55%. I've already heard from a few clubs ready to jump on board.

[Ghetto]

Absolutely not.

NIL at the HS level is just one more nightmare for HS coaches to navigate. We already struggle to find coaches. Adding kissing kids behinds to the list isn't going to make the job easier.

I saw tonight that the head football coach at Oklahoma State had to publicly tell his kids he wasn't going to negotiate DURING THE SEASON. Which means kids are coming to him in camp with their hands out.

[crossface21]

I'm with Ghetto on this. IMO as a head coach this is just one more thing that will eventually push more coaches out of it. This is HIGH SCHOOL. We don't coach for the pay. But I'd guess most of us definitely don't wanna have to start dealing with the headache of NIL stuff even with the hundreds of thousands we're making as HS coaches. It'd have to be millions.

[thats2!]

There is no booster club in Wisconsin that has the type of money to create the problems you guys are talking about. And even if there was your talking less the 1%, if NIL was such a big problem in high school our top athletes would have left for states that have already approved it. But they aren't leaving the state and that's because nobody is throwing serious money at a high school athlete. What NIL will do for our athletes is allow athletes to run camps and make some money, get scholarships for extra training, and plenty of other opportunities.

[MTA]

To the naysayers I submit the following;
- It is coming whether you like it or not. 27 states have NIL in high school. How do you think the NCAA got NIL? Hint in a court room.
- If you are thinking about the issues with that, where were you when open enrollment was passed? That is a much bigger issue!
- It sounds like the original poster has sniffed out a real problem I have had in wrestling for some time, the fact that the only kids getting quality mat time year round are ones of means. If you have any interest in keeping the wrestlers that don't get on the podium and still play a vital role in fielding a full roster then we need to attempt to get to some sort of level where kids without the means can get some assistance to wrestle all year round if they so wish.

I am starting to see that NIL may be the only way.

[dman]

What we need NIL money for in High School is for the coaches and the refs...NOT the kids.

[Ghetto]

To the naysayers I submit the following;
- It is coming whether you like it or not. 27 states have NIL in high school. How do you think the NCAA got NIL? Hint in a court room.
- If you are thinking about the issues with that, where were you when open enrollment was passed? That is a much bigger issue!
- It sounds like the original poster has sniffed out a real problem I have had in wrestling for some time, the fact that the only kids getting quality mat time year round are ones of means. If you have any interest in keeping the wrestlers that don't get on the podium and still play a vital role in fielding a full roster then we need to attempt to get to some sort of level where kids without the means can get some assistance to wrestle all year round if they so wish.

I am starting to see that NIL may be the only way.

I've been around a long time. Our school doesn't take open enrollment at the HS level, so maybe I'm ignorant about it. No one has ever left us via open enrollment.The combination of NIL and open enrollment is the same issue they're having in college athletics.

If a parent wants to sue the WIAA for NIL money,so be it. I'm not going to worry about it. It will happen eventually here.

I am guessing if a kid really wanted to go to some camp, clinic, club, they are getting there.

[3]

I think what most want for HS kids (wrestlers specifically) and NIL is for kids to make money coaching camps/clinics because of their name and image.  High schools won't be paying the athletes.  They don't have the money colleges have.         

[thats2!]

To the naysayers I submit the following;
- It is coming whether you like it or not. 27 states have NIL in high school. How do you think the NCAA got NIL? Hint in a court room.
- If you are thinking about the issues with that, where were you when open enrollment was passed? That is a much bigger issue!
- It sounds like the original poster has sniffed out a real problem I have had in wrestling for some time, the fact that the only kids getting quality mat time year round are ones of means. If you have any interest in keeping the wrestlers that don't get on the podium and still play a vital role in fielding a full roster then we need to attempt to get to some sort of level where kids without the means can get some assistance to wrestle all year round if they so wish.

I am starting to see that NIL may be the only way.

I've been around a long time. Our school doesn't take open enrollment at the HS level, so maybe I'm ignorant about it. No one has ever left us via open enrollment.The combination of NIL and open enrollment is the same issue they're having in college athletics.

If a parent wants to sue the WIAA for NIL money,so be it. I'm not going to worry about it. It will happen eventually here.

I am guessing if a kid really wanted to go to some camp, clinic, club, they are getting there.

No school or club has the money to get kids to transfer, so i think your take on that is offline. If a kid that doesn't have the means really wants to go to a club, camp or extra training explain to me how they are going to magically make that happen? MatScoutWillie just said it as well, there is no real money for your scenario to take place. We are stopping clubs from helping unprivileged kids from receiving help and other high level kids from making a little bit of money for running camps.

[Ghetto]

Clubs have been helping kids go to camps, etc for 30+ years

[rjchev141]

Achievement in team sports is often accomplished more by acquiring talent instead of developing it. I think NIL will further this reality, requiring that the people that contribute the most energy in our sport will need to prioritize fund raising rather than development if they want to be successful.

[DocWrestling]

If NIL is passed I predict Arrowhead dominance in wrestling.  Come wrestle for Arrowhead and we will give you free year round wrestling in the Askren Wrestling Academy.  Can even give you fun money if you help work at camps.

[MTA]

Clubs have been helping kids go to camps, etc for 30+ years

High school kids? Because currently that would be prohibited by the WIAA and would most certainly result in disqualification to compete as receiving in-kind value thusly losing amateur status. So please tell us more about who is not playing by the current rules in place?

[DocWrestling]

Tons of booster clubs give scholarships for academics, community work, etc. and then the kids can use that for camps.  Legal if it is an open application process with one of the qualifications being you have to be a wrestler.  At least the way it was years ago

[Ghetto]

Clubs have been helping kids go to camps, etc for 30+ years

High school kids? Because currently that would be prohibited by the WIAA and would most certainly result in disqualification to compete as receiving in-kind value thusly losing amateur status. So please tell us more about who is not playing by the current rules in place?

I will absolutely not do that.

See Doc's post.