Badgers 2023-2024 Projection

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Not sure when, but the Badgers are traveling to Humboldt, Iowa to take on Iowa State next season!

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Kirk Nelson
Badger Wrestling Team 1983-1984
UW-Madison. BBA Degree. Marketing Major.
Fennimore High School http://rvwrestlingalum.com/Programs/1982_files/145.pdf

Kirk Nelson

Update -

125 - Barnett, Kruse
133 - Rivera, Bobzien, Coy
141 - Lettini, Severin
149 - Zargo, Sheen, Medora, George (RS), Nilo (RS)
157 - Mechler, Anderson, Goebel
165 - Hamiti, Model
174 - Maylor, Otto, Calhoun, Condon (RS)
184 - Liegel
197 - Talshahar, Empey
285 - Amos, Christensen, Rosenfeld, Schmidtke
Kirk Nelson
Badger Wrestling Team 1983-1984
UW-Madison. BBA Degree. Marketing Major.
Fennimore High School http://rvwrestlingalum.com/Programs/1982_files/145.pdf

Kirk Nelson

Wrestle Stat has the following Badger starting lineup:

125 - Barnett
133 - Coy
141 - Zargo
149 - Sheen
157 - Mechler
165 - Hamiti
174 - Maylor
184 - Liegel
197 - Amos
285 - Christensen

It will be interesting to see how the starting lineup plays out. Coy wrestled the most at 133 last year; Rivera finished ahead of him at a late season tournament. Bobzien did not wrestle much last year. Does Zargo stay at 141? If so, who starts at 149? 157 will be competitive. Does Amos stay at 197? I have heard he is moving up.

Are any other transfers or recruits coming in? Still quite a few transfer options out there..

The Freshmen will most likely redshirt. Not certain if Russo goes 197 or 285. Condon is tough. The Badgers may try to get the best 10 as starters which would involve moving guys to different weights.
Kirk Nelson
Badger Wrestling Team 1983-1984
UW-Madison. BBA Degree. Marketing Major.
Fennimore High School http://rvwrestlingalum.com/Programs/1982_files/145.pdf

BadgerOne

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Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on June 05, 2023, 09:09:16 AMWrestle Stat has the following Badger starting lineup:

125 - Barnett
133 - Coy
141 - Zargo
149 - Sheen
157 - Mechler
165 - Hamiti
174 - Maylor
184 - Liegel
197 - Amos
285 - Christensen

It will be interesting to see how the starting lineup plays out. Coy wrestled the most at 133 last year; Rivera finished ahead of him at a late season tournament. Bobzien did not wrestle much last year. Does Zargo stay at 141? If so, who starts at 149? 157 will be competitive. Does Amos stay at 197? I have heard he is moving up.

Are any other transfers or recruits coming in? Still quite a few transfer options out there..

The Freshmen will most likely redshirt. Not certain if Russo goes 197 or 285. Condon is tough. The Badgers may try to get the best 10 as starters which would involve moving guys to different weights.

Where have you heard Amos is moving up?  I think his chances are better at 197 given that Heavyweight is top heavy with Kerk, Cass, Hendrickson and Schultz and he'd have to compete with guys as big as 280.  197 is a much easier path for Braxton to break through and make some noise at NCAAs.  I also think its possible Braxton does take an olympic shirt and doesn't wrestle next year.  That would allow him time to bulk up and move up to heavyweight after returning.

I also don't get why Zargo would move up.  He doesn't appear that big at 41.

bigoil

Didn't Reader say Joey was moving up?

MRL_84


Kirk Nelson

Quote from: BadgerOne on June 05, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on June 05, 2023, 09:09:16 AMWrestle Stat has the following Badger starting lineup:

125 - Barnett
133 - Coy
141 - Zargo
149 - Sheen
157 - Mechler
165 - Hamiti
174 - Maylor
184 - Liegel
197 - Amos
285 - Christensen

It will be interesting to see how the starting lineup plays out. Coy wrestled the most at 133 last year; Rivera finished ahead of him at a late season tournament. Bobzien did not wrestle much last year. Does Zargo stay at 141? If so, who starts at 149? 157 will be competitive. Does Amos stay at 197? I have heard he is moving up.

Are any other transfers or recruits coming in? Still quite a few transfer options out there..

The Freshmen will most likely redshirt. Not certain if Russo goes 197 or 285. Condon is tough. The Badgers may try to get the best 10 as starters which would involve moving guys to different weights.

Where have you heard Amos is moving up?  I think his chances are better at 197 given that Heavyweight is top heavy with Kerk, Cass, Hendrickson and Schultz and he'd have to compete with guys as big as 280.  197 is a much easier path for Braxton to break through and make some noise at NCAAs.  I also think its possible Braxton does take an olympic shirt and doesn't wrestle next year.  That would allow him time to bulk up and move up to heavyweight after returning.

I also don't get why Zargo would move up.  He doesn't appear that big at 41.

From someone close to the program. That could change though given his Olympic redshirt option as you pointed out.
Kirk Nelson
Badger Wrestling Team 1983-1984
UW-Madison. BBA Degree. Marketing Major.
Fennimore High School http://rvwrestlingalum.com/Programs/1982_files/145.pdf

Kirk Nelson

Updated Projected Roster:

125 - Barnett, Kruse RS
133 - Rivera, Bobzien, Coy, Fugitt RS
141 - Lettini, Severin
149 - Zargo, Medora, George RS, Nilo RS
157 - Mechler, Sheen, Anderson, Goebel
165 - Hamiti, Model
174 - Maylor, Otto, Calhoun, Condon RS
184 - Liegel
197 - Talshahar, Empey
285 - Amos, Christensen, Rosenfeld, Schmidtke, Russo RS

* Russo wrestled 215 in high school - unclear if 197 is a consideration or not
* Adding Fugitt to the mix makes 133 even more competitive. Current assumption is all Freshman will redshirt
Kirk Nelson
Badger Wrestling Team 1983-1984
UW-Madison. BBA Degree. Marketing Major.
Fennimore High School http://rvwrestlingalum.com/Programs/1982_files/145.pdf

BadgerOne

I don't think Fugitt is going to take a redshirt if he wins a starting spot.  I do think he is probably the Badgers best option at 133, though Bobzien may give him a battle.  Rivera is kind of smallish for 133 and I think he slots in better at 125 after Barnett is done.

tigerking

Quote from: BadgerOne on June 09, 2023, 05:24:01 PMI don't think Fugitt is going to take a redshirt if he wins a starting spot.  I do think he is probably the Badgers best option at 133, though Bobzien may give him a battle.  Rivera is kind of smallish for 133 and I think he slots in better at 125 after Barnett is done.

I agree with you. Considering Rivera just wrestled 125.5 at an offseason tournament, I would assume he would be at 125 again next year. Hopefully he can continue to develop as he did not have a strong showing at U23 Nationals.

rankwizard

Quote from: tigerking on June 09, 2023, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: BadgerOne on June 09, 2023, 05:24:01 PMI don't think Fugitt is going to take a redshirt if he wins a starting spot.  I do think he is probably the Badgers best option at 133, though Bobzien may give him a battle.  Rivera is kind of smallish for 133 and I think he slots in better at 125 after Barnett is done.

I agree with you. Considering Rivera just wrestled 125.5 at an offseason tournament, I would assume he would be at 125 again next year. Hopefully he can continue to develop as he did not have a strong showing at U23 Nationals.

I agree Tiger. Rivera is too small for 133 for the top competition. I wonder how long Barnett plans to stay in school.. He's entering his 5th year of college next fall. May or may not be his last year depending on his life plans... Barnett has been very fun to watch for sure. We love our home state guys as well as our out of states.

bigoil

Quote from: rankwizard on June 10, 2023, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: tigerking on June 09, 2023, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: BadgerOne on June 09, 2023, 05:24:01 PMI don't think Fugitt is going to take a redshirt if he wins a starting spot.  I do think he is probably the Badgers best option at 133, though Bobzien may give him a battle.  Rivera is kind of smallish for 133 and I think he slots in better at 125 after Barnett is done.

I agree with you. Considering Rivera just wrestled 125.5 at an offseason tournament, I would assume he would be at 125 again next year. Hopefully he can continue to develop as he did not have a strong showing at U23 Nationals.

I agree Tiger. Rivera is too small for 133 for the top competition. I wonder how long Barnett plans to stay in school.. He's entering his 5th year of college next fall. May or may not be his last year depending on his life plans... Barnett has been very fun to watch for sure. We love our home state guys as well as our out of states.
That's it for EB, he will be out of eligibility.

walden_hiker

Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on June 09, 2023, 12:13:30 PMUpdated Projected Roster:

125 - Barnett, Kruse RS
133 - Rivera, Bobzien, Coy, Fugitt RS
141 - Lettini, Severin
149 - Zargo, Medora, George RS, Nilo RS
157 - Mechler, Sheen, Anderson, Goebel
165 - Hamiti, Model
174 - Maylor, Otto, Calhoun, Condon RS
184 - Liegel
197 - Talshahar, Empey
285 - Amos, Christensen, Rosenfeld, Schmidtke, Russo RS

* Russo wrestled 215 in high school - unclear if 197 is a consideration or not
* Adding Fugitt to the mix makes 133 even more competitive. Current assumption is all Freshman will redshirt
Solid roster

dad 2 5

Quote from: walden_hiker on June 10, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on June 09, 2023, 12:13:30 PMUpdated Projected Roster:

125 - Barnett, Kruse RS
133 - Rivera, Bobzien, Coy, Fugitt RS
141 - Lettini, Severin
149 - Zargo, Medora, George RS, Nilo RS
157 - Mechler, Sheen, Anderson, Goebel
165 - Hamiti, Model
174 - Maylor, Otto, Calhoun, Condon RS
184 - Liegel
197 - Talshahar, Empey
285 - Amos, Christensen, Rosenfeld, Schmidtke, Russo RS

* Russo wrestled 215 in high school - unclear if 197 is a consideration or not
* Adding Fugitt to the mix makes 133 even more competitive. Current assumption is all Freshman will redshirt
Solid roster

Hiker is that serious? I would not call that a solid Big Ten roster but maybe you are seeing somethings I am not.

tigerking

Quote from: dad 2 5 on June 11, 2023, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: walden_hiker on June 10, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on June 09, 2023, 12:13:30 PMUpdated Projected Roster:

125 - Barnett, Kruse RS
133 - Rivera, Bobzien, Coy, Fugitt RS
141 - Lettini, Severin
149 - Zargo, Medora, George RS, Nilo RS
157 - Mechler, Sheen, Anderson, Goebel
165 - Hamiti, Model
174 - Maylor, Otto, Calhoun, Condon RS
184 - Liegel
197 - Talshahar, Empey
285 - Amos, Christensen, Rosenfeld, Schmidtke, Russo RS

* Russo wrestled 215 in high school - unclear if 197 is a consideration or not
* Adding Fugitt to the mix makes 133 even more competitive. Current assumption is all Freshman will redshirt
Solid roster

Hiker is that serious? I would not call that a solid Big Ten roster but maybe you are seeing somethings I am not.

This is an awful roster. Especially if Amos does not wrestle this year.