state upsets, matches to watch

BPfan · February 24, 2023, 09:01:10 AM

What have been some good upsets so far? And what are some of the big match ups coming up this morning and tonight that people are looking forward too?

Houndhead · February 24, 2023, 09:08:52 AM

Just an observation, but Muskego had the most qualifiers with 10, and went 2-8 in the first round and 0-2 in the second round.

npope · February 24, 2023, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: Houndhead on February 24, 2023, 09:08:52 AMJust an observation, but Muskego had the most qualifiers with 10, and went 2-8 in the first round and 0-2 in the second round.

Ouch! A bit deflating for them, I suspect. That said, it's a good chance to "marshal the troops" and fight through adversity...which might have an even bigger value than placing at the meet. Never know.

Scramble_king · February 24, 2023, 12:49:49 PM

Wow. Mueller just threw Oromond around like a rag doll. Tossed him to his back 4 different times

miltonfan#1 · February 24, 2023, 02:04:09 PM

Quote from: Houndhead on February 24, 2023, 09:08:52 AMJust an observation, but Muskego had the most qualifiers with 10, and went 2-8 in the first round and 0-2 in the second round.

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duckdog · February 24, 2023, 02:16:29 PM

Quote from: BPfan on February 24, 2023, 09:01:10 AMWhat have been some good upsets so far? And what are some of the big match ups coming up this morning and tonight that people are looking forward too?

Some close quarterfinals of note...
Kraemer over Goebel in D2 152.. dec. 3-2
Radintz over a tough freshman in Stevens at D3 126.. dec. 10-6

Some electric semis coming up tonight...

D1
113 Hay (42-1) vs. Casey (40-4)...
Hay FR with one loss out of state and Casey returning State Champ

132 Peach (49-1) vs. Winans (44-3)...
Winans over Peach in '22 State 3rd place match dec. 1-0. Of 4 combined losses, Worachek over Winans is only in-state loss.

220 Kawczynski (42-2) vs. Arndt (32-1)...
Port Wash freshman stud with 2 losses 1 out of state and 1 by inj. Arndt- '22 3rd place finish and only loss to Hopke.

285 Mankowski (48-4) vs. Empey (50-2)
Empey '22 HWT-State runner up with losses to Hopke and Bunker
Mankowski '22 220-State Champ with losses to Hokpe and 3x to Empey 3-1, 4-3, and 3-2!! Can Empey make it 4x or does Mankowski finally have his number?!

D2
113 Aird (30-3) vs. Magolski (44-4)
Rematch of '22 106-3rd place match Magolski dec. Aird 6-5--both knocked to cons. by Meudt

138 Koenig (48-3) vs. Seffrood (45-3)
Koenig going for #4 and rematch of '22 state finals.
Seffrood the sophomore stud with 3 losses. Aure dec. 2-0 and x2 to Koenig.. by Inj. and UTB 3-2.
Seffrood with 7 career losses. 6 to Koenig. Can he keep the PDC senior from making history?

D3
106 Gruenenfelder (49-0) vs. Underwood (46-0)
113 Unser (39-2) vs. Fitzpatrick (39-2)
120 Nutter (42-2) vs. Carey (47-5)... Season split Carey 2-1
220 Welch (52-2) vs. Hoffman (46-2)

harley25 · February 24, 2023, 02:26:39 PM

D3
106 Gruenenfelder (49-0) vs. Underwood (46-0)
113 Unser (39-2) vs. Fitzpatrick (39-2)
120 Nutter (42-2) vs. Carey (47-5)... Season split Carey 2-1
220 Welch (52-2) vs. Hoffman (46-2)

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Underwood = Any relation to the 2nd 4x State champ in Wisconsin History?

duckdog · February 24, 2023, 02:29:47 PM

Quote from: harley25 on February 24, 2023, 02:26:39 PMUnderwood = Any relation to the 2nd 4x State champ in Wisconsin History?

Blake is Kraig Underwood's son.

bigoil · February 24, 2023, 02:39:08 PM

Quote from: duckdog on February 24, 2023, 02:29:47 PM
Quote from: harley25 on February 24, 2023, 02:26:39 PMD3
106 Gruenenfelder (49-0) vs. Underwood (46-0)
113 Unser (39-2) vs. Fitzpatrick (39-2)
120 Nutter (42-2) vs. Carey (47-5)... Season split Carey 2-1
220 Welch (52-2) vs. Hoffman (46-2)

Underwood = Any relation to the 2nd 4x State champ in Wisconsin History?

Blake is Kraig Underwood's son.

wow, that is some lineage..

Scramble_king · February 24, 2023, 08:00:35 PM

Thoughts on the Koenig Seffrood match: I felt like the over time portion was poorly referred. Felt like ref was afraid to make a call against the potential 4xer

SayHey42 · February 25, 2023, 12:59:02 PM

Quote from: Scramble_king on February 24, 2023, 08:00:35 PMThoughts on the Koenig Seffrood match: I felt like the over time portion was poorly referred. Felt like ref was afraid to make a call against the potential 4xer

That OT lay and pray on the ankle was blatant stalling. That whole match looked like one guy trying to win and the other trying not to lose.

talktolee · February 27, 2023, 03:27:24 PM

Quote from: SayHey42 on February 25, 2023, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: Scramble_king on February 24, 2023, 08:00:35 PMThoughts on the Koenig Seffrood match: I felt like the over time portion was poorly referred. Felt like ref was afraid to make a call against the potential 4xer

That OT lay and pray on the ankle was blatant stalling. That whole match looked like one guy trying to win and the other trying not to lose.

I agree, I wasn't a big fan of the second stall call, seemed like a prayer to drive him out of bounds.

In the finals I do not know the specific rules on calling a fall, if you can call a pin on a wrestler when the wrestlers are scrambling in neutral. There was a sequence where Koenig was flat on his back for an extended 3-5 seconds...The ref didn't even get into position to see.

Both great matches, I felt like some favorable calls went his way in the semi-finals match as well as in the finals.

npope · February 27, 2023, 05:57:22 PM

Quote from: talktolee on February 27, 2023, 03:27:24 PMI agree, I wasn't a big fan of the second stall call, seemed like a prayer to drive him out of bounds.

In the finals I do not know the specific rules on calling a fall, if you can call a pin on a wrestler when the wrestlers are scrambling in neutral. There was a sequence where Koenig was flat on his back for an extended 3-5 seconds...The ref didn't even get into position to see.

Both great matches, I felt like some favorable calls went his way in the semi-finals match as well as in the finals.

Interesting question - one that I had never thought of. That said, if you could get a defensive fall, why not a neutral position fall?

Vir Fortis · February 28, 2023, 06:32:45 AM

Quote from: npope on February 27, 2023, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: talktolee on February 27, 2023, 03:27:24 PMI agree, I wasn't a big fan of the second stall call, seemed like a prayer to drive him out of bounds.

In the finals I do not know the specific rules on calling a fall, if you can call a pin on a wrestler when the wrestlers are scrambling in neutral. There was a sequence where Koenig was flat on his back for an extended 3-5 seconds...The ref didn't even get into position to see.

Both great matches, I felt like some favorable calls went his way in the semi-finals match as well as in the finals.

Interesting question - one that I had never thought of. That said, if you could get a defensive fall, why not a neutral position fall?

You can. It looked like the ref was reticent to make that call in the State Finals...but he did look flat for a GOOD WWE or whatever type pin.