Coach Gross at the World Championships

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BadgerOne

Quote from: bigoil on September 26, 2022, 10:31:40 PM
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Quote from: BadgerOne on September 26, 2022, 10:53:59 AMHow are some of these situations comparable?  I don't think WRTC has any RTC athletes.  Gross is on the coaching staff and Amos is a student athlete on scholarship.  After the WRTC let go of the three women who it had previously supported, I don't think it has any athletes or any competing in world team opens.  All this cash and no athletes.  It is a bit of a stretch in my opinion to raise money with picture of Heaton (May tweet) and trumpeting Gross and Amos going to world championship as if the WRTC had much if anything to do with either.  It would be more honest to say WRTC is using  money to support college wrestlers, which appears the primary purpose of raising money.

If you were posting from WI you might know more but keep stirring the pot from your perch in California.

Which part of BadgerOne's post wasn't true?  I heard the exact same thing. Due to the new NIL rules, RTC money is being used to support some of the college wrestlers.  I don't think it is a bad thing. I also don't think acknowledging it is stirring the pot.

There are several posts mentioning other wrestlers have left programs for new opportunities, and that is the nature of the business, etc.... leaving a program for new opportunities is significantly different than having your resources cut just before the World Championships and being forced out for questioning the decision to not let Ronna train at the RTC. 


His series of posts and now your posts are inaccurate and full of innuendo.

Amos is a Badger and hence an RTC athlete. Who pays for his coaches to travel? Gross is supported by RTC in many ways and to insinuate that he is being forced out is ludicrous. Seth is an awesome human being and loved by Coach Bono and Coach Reader.

Badger, ergo RTC athlete.  Sorry I missed the logic there.  Who pays...good question... could be USA Wrestling and/or Sunkist Kids and so I'm not sure the WRTC had to pay anything related to the World Championships.  I agree with you that Seth is an awesome human being and I hope Seth stays in Wisconsin but I doubt removing his wife from the WRTC helps.

BuckyMatt

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Quote from: TomM on September 22, 2022, 01:53:20 PMWhat exactly are people looking for here?

I'm not sure where to start.

Randomly speaking...

-- Cash is King! Unlimited funds allow for more support of more athletes and expansion of programs. There are a few (very few) fortunate established RTC's that have what amounts to nearly unlimited funds.

-- IF Coach Gross is moving on as a competitor in training (which I have no knowledge of, nor does anyone I know personally), you should know that wrestlers move around often. See recent moves by Snyder, Burroughs and numerous others. Maybe an elite athlete like Seth Gross may want to train with a slew of other elites. Very few RTC's have the funds to support multiple athletes and both men's and women's programs. I'd be sad to see him go, but pull for his success.

-- If you are a donor, why are you here on the forum asking these questions? Why not just call Chris Bono and ask him yourself. If you aren't a donor and don't want to support the program, why do you care? What's your point?

-- I'm invested in seeing the UW wrestling team/program be successful and relevant. I contribute what I can. I don't expect Coach Bono nor any of the coaches or RTC board members to inform me or consult me regarding the tough decisions they have to make.

-- I wasn't personally at the golf outing or the steak fry this year (first time in a long time I've missed either). Does that have some secret meaning? Sheesh.

-- I donate to the local humane society. Do they owe me an explanation for every dog they have adopted or send to a foster home?

-- Change happens in all things. Deal with it.

-- How many of those 'commenting' here actually contribute any significant funds to the effort? And if you expect to be on speed dial for all decisions because of your donation then get a job as a Big Ten wrestling coach.

-- The Badgers look to have FIVE returning All-Americans in the 2022-2023 lineup. There are exciting dual meets. There are Wisconsin kids starting on the team. The Badgers are truly competitive in just about every single dual meet. Good kids transfer into the UW to compete.

-- Come out from behind your screen name. Share your identity and experience and give us a reason and an explanation as to why you ask questions that seem to be accusatory and negative

A long time ago a wise person told me "The more successful you are, the less friends you will have in town."  Maybe it's true.

BadgerOne
Please re-read Tom's response.  It is the perfect answer to your obvious posting agenda.

And please answer the question of why a person in California would register an account to so obviously stir the pot on Coach Bono and how the RTC is spending it's money?  Who in California cares ???  ???   ???

asdf

1) People can be passionate fans for the Badgers AND live outside the beautiful state of WI.  Didn't know there was some rule that you can't have an opinion if not living in WI.
2) People can be passionate fans for the Badger AND have a different approach, views, and communication style then the 3-4 people that are jumping all over this guy/gal. You know glass half full/half empty type stuff.
3) People can lurk on this forum for years before deciding to register and comment.  I never understand how everyone on here jumps on people with these "nice to see you just registered...nice to see you have only posted 4x, etc."  Didn't know the rule had to be your opinion matters only if you post daily.
4) Can't believe I am going to type this--I miss Luke Louison being on this forum.



BuckyMatt

Quote from: asdf on September 27, 2022, 06:36:25 AM1) People can be passionate fans for the Badgers AND live outside the beautiful state of WI.  Didn't know there was some rule that you can't have an opinion if not living in WI.
2) People can be passionate fans for the Badger AND have a different approach, views, and communication style then the 3-4 people that are jumping all over this guy/gal. You know glass half full/half empty type stuff.
3) People can lurk on this forum for years before deciding to register and comment.  I never understand how everyone on here jumps on people with these "nice to see you just registered...nice to see you have only posted 4x, etc."  Didn't know the rule had to be your opinion matters only if you post daily.
4) Can't believe I am going to type this--I miss Luke Louison being on this forum.




Misinformation is all around us.  From the news today : https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-social-media-misinformation-05d147b128c48bfa23705409448b7bbc

TomM is the administrator here and can see all of our logins and email addresses. HE does not guarantee anonymity.  If you go back to the post on the Braeden Scoles commitment, Tom calls out multiple people who were registering multiple accounts under the same email address and having "conversations" with themselves in order to further their agenda.

In this day and age, questioning an ANONYMOUS new posters intent and agenda is absolutely necessary, whether it's pro-Bono or anti-Bono. We need to think for ourselves "WHY" is this person posting what they are posting.  Being anonymous gives too much power to just post whatever you want, true or not, misinformation or not.  If this California person would post their true identity, we could judge their perspective easier (exactly what TOM said in his post on this topic)


vsmf2010

Quote from: asdf on September 27, 2022, 06:36:25 AM4) Can't believe I am going to type this--I miss Luke Louison being on this forum.

That is some funny S**t!  ;D

vsmf2010


novice wrestler

You have plenty of college student athletes that compete for an RTC somewhere, like Braxton.  The names that come to mind are Yanni and Gable the last few years.  If I remember correctly didn't Synder win a World and Olympic gold under the RTC umbrella while competing at OSU?  I would say the same is true for the few guys who are college coaches and are still competing internationally under some RTC, Tony Ramos comes to mind along with Seth.  So I guess some have the right to say this is just stirring the pot

Harris

The RTC posted a picture today with Bono and Gross arm in arm after practice with the RTC athletes on twitter.  Great photo!

Harris