Understanding State Seeding

Started by Coach Lu, February 20, 2022, 09:25:47 AM

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Hoople

Seeding is a step into the 21st century but much more to be done. Why not double elimination? Seed only top 4. Divide wrestling schools into 3 equal divisions. 16 wrestlers in each. Any why are consolation and placement matches 1-2-2? There is plenty of time to go 2-2-2. Why not guarantee two matches at team State?

LaValle

Quote from: Hoople on February 26, 2022, 10:35:52 PM
Seeding is a step into the 21st century but much more to be done. Why not double elimination? Seed only top 4. Divide wrestling schools into 3 equal divisions. 16 wrestlers in each. Any why are consolation and placement matches 1-2-2? There is plenty of time to go 2-2-2. Why not guarantee two matches at team State?

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DocWrestling

Why is ANY varsity match 1-2-2 during any part of the season?

What is reason for it?  Seriously, what is reason for changing the rules because you lost a match?

Do those matches not matter as much?  Are we just in a rush to go home?
Of Course, this is only my opinion and no one elses!

The Last Ride

Quote from: DocWrestling on February 27, 2022, 07:25:45 AM
Why is ANY varsity match 1-2-2 during any part of the season?

What is reason for it?  Seriously, what is reason for changing the rules because you lost a match?

Do those matches not matter as much?  Are we just in a rush to go home?
Especially when you take long breaks on Friday and Sat.
"Do or do not. There is no try."

– Yoda

dman

All divisions 16 man brackets, double elimination, less break time, and add two more mats until the semi finals.

justwrestle

Quote from: dman on February 27, 2022, 09:49:41 AM
All divisions 16 man brackets, double elimination, less break time, and add two more mats until the semi finals.

One thing to add: let's think like a dual meet and draw a starting weight for finals. Or we could do as other states and pick a weight that would be the feature match that would be the last of the night!

dman

Quote from: justwrestle on February 27, 2022, 10:34:33 AM
Quote from: dman on February 27, 2022, 09:49:41 AM
All divisions 16 man brackets, double elimination, less break time, and add two more mats until the semi finals.

One thing to add: let's think like a dual meet and draw a starting weight for finals. Or we could do as other states and pick a weight that would be the feature match that would be the last of the night!

I could get on board with that.  Especially considering that the D1 HWY match was one of the best all weekend and a lot of people missed it.

Handles II

Quote from: dman on February 27, 2022, 09:49:41 AM
All divisions 16 man brackets, double elimination, less break time, and add two more mats until the semi finals.

Yep!
Certainly there is space to do 8 mats. Certainly there is the time and interest to do double-elimination. Certainly there is interest from the D2/D3 people to get rid of the 12 man bracket system. Certainly there are states that do exactly this, so it's just a matter of cut/paste and nothing to actually invent, no huge logistical hurdles to overcome. Should have been done this way when we added wrestle backs to third place.