way too early 2021-2022 line up

Started by dad 2 5, February 20, 2021, 05:43:01 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

MNbadger

Just guessing at the most likely line up, I see MN winning 7 of 10 with Gable, 6 of ten without.
I hope Gable stays and uses his eligibility.  Many get excited about the WWE stuff, I don't get why anyone would care about it.  I know it is fame and fortune but it isn't wrestling.
In regard to 285, Tabor appears to be a big timer but one never knows.
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

MNbadger

Dryden(133) is leaving(wants to go somewhere where he can wrestle 125). 
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 07, 2021, 05:26:27 PM
Bad reminder of last years meet 27-7 and Jared K was one of the Badgers wins. So can the Badger swing to wins at 41;74;84;97 and make this a tight battle? Add a win at 25 and maybe get an upset at 33 And this could get the Badgers a very good team win.
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

MakingABadgerer

WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.

wrastle63

#168
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?

MNbadger

In my very quick analysis I have Gophers winning at
125(why would one choose Barnett here, I know they have traded but McKee blew it up at the end)
141
149
157
165((no good reason to thinkSparks will RS, plenty of time to recover)
174
285 (assuming Gable is here) The other two options would a likely Badger decision.
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

npope

Quote from: tigerking on June 08, 2021, 10:58:15 AM
My sources have been saying that Joey Grello is touring Madison and would cut to 165 for the Badgers. That would help fill a hole.

The word over on The Mat.Com is that Grello is going to U of Oklahoma. That said, that content was posted about the same time (maybe even before) this post was made on the WI Wrestling board. No one over there has confirmed the OU statement, however. Is the Grello rumor a dead thread?
Merely having an opinion doesn't necessarily make it a good one

Nat Pope

MNbadger

The seven I listed, 125, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, and 285.
174 is the biggest toss up in my mind.
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 09:21:42 AM
In my very quick analysis I have Gophers winning at
125(why would one choose Barnett here, I know they have traded but McKee blew it up at the end)
141
149
157
165((no good reason to thinkSparks will RS, plenty of time to recover)
174
285 (assuming Gable is here) The other two options would a likely Badger decision.
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

oregoncy

Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 01:00:20 PM
The seven I listed, 125, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, and 285.
174 is the biggest toss up in my mind.
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 09:21:42 AM
In my very quick analysis I have Gophers winning at
125(why would one choose Barnett here, I know they have traded but McKee blew it up at the end)
141
149
157
165((no good reason to thinkSparks will RS, plenty of time to recover)
174
285 (assuming Gable is here) The other two options would a likely Badger decision.
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?
If Gomez is healthy, what makes you think he wouldn't be a substantial favorite over Polanco? Same for 174... Krattiger has shown flashes but has never displayed anything that would make a rational viewer favor him over McNally and calling it a "toss up" would be VERY generous to Krattiger.

I think it's clear that Badgers would be favorites at 133, 141, 174, 184 and 197. Minnesota clear favorites at 149, 157, 285. Lean Minnesota at 165 if Hamiti goes for UW, otherwise clear MN favorites. Toss up at 125.

wrastle63

Quote from: oregoncy on July 08, 2021, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 01:00:20 PM
The seven I listed, 125, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, and 285.
174 is the biggest toss up in my mind.
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 09:21:42 AM
In my very quick analysis I have Gophers winning at
125(why would one choose Barnett here, I know they have traded but McKee blew it up at the end)
141
149
157
165((no good reason to thinkSparks will RS, plenty of time to recover)
174
285 (assuming Gable is here) The other two options would a likely Badger decision.
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?
If Gomez is healthy, what makes you think he wouldn't be a substantial favorite over Polanco? Same for 174... Krattiger has shown flashes but has never displayed anything that would make a rational viewer favor him over McNally and calling it a "toss up" would be VERY generous to Krattiger.

I think it's clear that Badgers would be favorites at 133, 141, 174, 184 and 197. Minnesota clear favorites at 149, 157, 285. Lean Minnesota at 165 if Hamiti goes for UW, otherwise clear MN favorites. Toss up at 125.
Don't be rational with MNBadger and actually use matches wrestled and understanding...  ;D

MNbadger

Chuckle if you want but if you are looking at matches wrestled, didn't McKee pin Barnett last time out???
I don't see McKee struggling with Barnett going forward.  I would not assume he'll pin Barnett but I see McKee as having made a big step in comparison to Barnett.
As far as McNally, there are only two common opponents that I saw in wrestlestat(comparing him with O'Reilly).  Not a huge lean toward McNally so I see it as a toss up.  McNally had a flashy record but remember, he has not wrestled in the Big Ten yet and it is a whole different world than where he came from.  So, I see that as a toss up.   I think regardless, it will be close but then again I thought last year would have been closer too so who knows?  It's fun to speculate.t
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: oregoncy on July 08, 2021, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: MNbadger link=topic=57177.msg664676#msg664676hh date=1625767220
The seven I listed, 125, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, and 285.
174 is the biggest toss up in my mind.
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 09:21:42 AM
In my very quick analysis I have Gophers winning at
125(why would one choose Barnett here, I know they have traded but McKee blew it up at the end)
141
149
157
165((no good reason to thinkSparks will RS, plenty of time to recover)
174
285 (assuming Gable is here) The other two options would a likely Badger decision.
Quote from: wrastle63 on July 08, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 07, 2021, 09:10:45 PM
WrestleStat has it Gophers 21 Badgers 15
Minnesota winning 6 matches with Steveson in the lineup

125 McKee dec Barnett 11-6  Minn 3= Wis 0
133 Burwick dec Gliva 6-4  Minn 3= Wis 3
141 Gomez md Polanco 13-4  Minn 3= Wis 7
149 Blockhus dec Scharenbrock 11-6  Minn 6= Wis 7
157 Lee md Model 16-5  Minn 10= Wis 7
165 Sparks dec Hamati 7-0 Minn 13= Wis 7
174 McNally md Krattiger 12-3  Minn 13= Wis 11
184 Weiler md Salazar 14-3  Minn 13= Wis 15
197 Joles md Amos 12-0  Minn 17= Wis 15
285 Steveson md Hilger 12-3  Minn 21= Wis 15

The wrestle stat computers are way smarter than I am but ...
With Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149, 157, and 285
Without Steveson in the lineup I have Minn winning 149 and 157

If it is Hamati vs Sparks at 165 and Amos vs Joles at 197 maybe they'll both lose but I will be very surprised if both of our young guys get shutout and Amos gets majored.

Rumor mill has Singletary (Ohio State) going to Goofers at 197 unless Gable leaves, then Singletary to 285.
Wrestlestat will be a lot closer than MNBadger's prediction. Also agree with you on Amos/Hamiti. I believe Sparks was having off-season surgery so he may redshirt? There is a 0% chance Joles majors Amos lol. He went 4-8 last season. I hope Joles does well, but can't see a major or a win. Also Barnett has beaten McKee so wouldn't be surprised to see that result flipped either. Also it is only a point difference but Weiler probably won't major Salazar.

So which 7 does MN win MNBadger?
If Gomez is healthy, what makes you think he wouldn't be a substantial favorite over Polanco? Same for 174... Krattiger has shown flashes but has never displayed anything that would make a rational viewer favor him over McNally and calling it a "toss up" would be VERY generous to Krattiger.

I think it's clear that Badgers would be favorites at 133, 141, 174, 184 and 197. Minnesota clear favorites at 149, 157, 285. Lean Minnesota at 165 if Hamiti goes for UW, otherwise clear MN favorites. Toss up at 125.
Don't be rational with MNBadger and actually use matches wrestled and understanding...  ;D
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

MNbadger

#175
Hard to say about Gomez.  I gave Polanco the nod based on the fact that Gomez hasn't wrestled for a long time and who knows if he will be wrestling.  One bump on the head and he will be out, yes? 
Hopefully, he comes back and stays healthy.
I just looked at wrestlestat and his biggest wins were over #13 and #18(yes, he did pin RBY but I don't think you believe he is that caliber....?).
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

Harris

"Chuckle if you want but if you are looking at matches wrestled, didn't McKee pin Barnett last time out???
I don't see McKee struggling with Barnett going forward.  I would not assume he'll pin Barnett but I see McKee as having made a big step in comparison to Barnett."

I see it the other way around.  I think Barnett is on a very high trajectory working with Gross every day.  He gets pinned because of his style of wrestling.  Once he figures out how to prevent those situations he will be even more dangerous and I think Gross is going to help make that happen. 

I don't think any opponent likes wrestling Barnett because he can launch you at any moment and he is not afraid to go big.  If I saw him in my side of the bracket, I would have to respect his wrestling ability at all times and would know I was in for a fight.  He is one of my favorite guys to watch right now and he is lethal when his opponents make certain mistakes regardless of how good they are which makes him exciting. 

Think of the progress he has made in the past few years.  It is super impressive and resulted in him becoming an All-American.  I really think he is going to take another monumental step forward this year and can wrestle with anyone in the country especially McKee who I also have a ton of respect for.

MNbadger

Well, they will be wrestling each other going forward.  Comparing trajectory, McKee is improving more/faster, winning six straight and pinning three(including Barnett) on his way to 3rd place.
His training partners give nothing up to Gross, one being four - time AA Zach Sanders.
The one thing I will say is that McKee in the past has had some horrible performances where he just looks so bad.  I think he looks like he is past that having watched last year's NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: Harris on July 08, 2021, 06:02:12 PM
"Chuckle if you want but if you are looking at matches wrestled, didn't McKee pin Barnett last time out???
I don't see McKee struggling with Barnett going forward.  I would not assume he'll pin Barnett but I see McKee as having made a big step in comparison to Barnett."

I see it the other way around.  I think Barnett is on a very high trajectory working with Gross every day.  He gets pinned because of his style of wrestling.  Once he figures out how to prevent those situations he will be even more dangerous and I think Gross is going to help make that happen. 

I don't think any opponent likes wrestling Barnett because he can launch you at any moment and he is not afraid to go big.  If I saw him in my side of the bracket, I would have to respect his wrestling ability at all times and would know I was in for a fight.  He is one of my favorite guys to watch right now and he is lethal when his opponents make certain mistakes regardless of how good they are which makes him exciting. 

Think of the progress he has made in the past few years.  It is super impressive and resulted in him becoming an All-American.  I really think he is going to take another monumental step forward this year and can wrestle with anyone in the country especially McKee who I also have a ton of respect for.
I would like to reach through the screen and slap the next person who starts a thread about "global warming." Wraslfan
"Obama thinks we should all be on welfare."  BigG
"MN will eventually go the way of Greece." Wraslfan

Harris

All great points.  McKee's finish last year was super impressive.  Both wrestlers have really done a great job over the past few years.  I just think Barnett can hang with McKee all day long and expect him to improve his pin defense  ;)

Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
Well, they will be wrestling each other going forward.  Comparing trajectory, McKee is improving more/faster, winning six straight and pinning three(including Barnett) on his way to 3rd place.
His training partners give nothing up to Gross, one being four - time AA Zach Sanders.
The one thing I will say is that McKee in the past has had some horrible performances where he just looks so bad.  I think he looks like he is past that having watched last year's NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: Harris on July 08, 2021, 06:02:12 PM
"Chuckle if you want but if you are looking at matches wrestled, didn't McKee pin Barnett last time out???
I don't see McKee struggling with Barnett going forward.  I would not assume he'll pin Barnett but I see McKee as having made a big step in comparison to Barnett."

I see it the other way around.  I think Barnett is on a very high trajectory working with Gross every day.  He gets pinned because of his style of wrestling.  Once he figures out how to prevent those situations he will be even more dangerous and I think Gross is going to help make that happen. 

I don't think any opponent likes wrestling Barnett because he can launch you at any moment and he is not afraid to go big.  If I saw him in my side of the bracket, I would have to respect his wrestling ability at all times and would know I was in for a fight.  He is one of my favorite guys to watch right now and he is lethal when his opponents make certain mistakes regardless of how good they are which makes him exciting. 

Think of the progress he has made in the past few years.  It is super impressive and resulted in him becoming an All-American.  I really think he is going to take another monumental step forward this year and can wrestle with anyone in the country especially McKee who I also have a ton of respect for.

wrastle63

#179
Quote from: MNbadger on July 08, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
Well, they will be wrestling each other going forward.  Comparing trajectory, McKee is improving more/faster, winning six straight and pinning three(including Barnett) on his way to 3rd place.
His training partners give nothing up to Gross, one being four - time AA Zach Sanders.
The one thing I will say is that McKee in the past has had some horrible performances where he just looks so bad.  I think he looks like he is past that having watched last year's NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: Harris on July 08, 2021, 06:02:12 PM
"Chuckle if you want but if you are looking at matches wrestled, didn't McKee pin Barnett last time out???
I don't see McKee struggling with Barnett going forward.  I would not assume he'll pin Barnett but I see McKee as having made a big step in comparison to Barnett."

I see it the other way around.  I think Barnett is on a very high trajectory working with Gross every day.  He gets pinned because of his style of wrestling.  Once he figures out how to prevent those situations he will be even more dangerous and I think Gross is going to help make that happen. 

I don't think any opponent likes wrestling Barnett because he can launch you at any moment and he is not afraid to go big.  If I saw him in my side of the bracket, I would have to respect his wrestling ability at all times and would know I was in for a fight.  He is one of my favorite guys to watch right now and he is lethal when his opponents make certain mistakes regardless of how good they are which makes him exciting. 

Think of the progress he has made in the past few years.  It is super impressive and resulted in him becoming an All-American.  I really think he is going to take another monumental step forward this year and can wrestle with anyone in the country especially McKee who I also have a ton of respect for.
Give nothing up to Gross... except one is an all American and one is a 2x finalist. Also you bring up Gomez beating two guys ranked top 20. What is Polancos best win? Guaranteed it isn't close to top 40. McNally beat Krattiger already, but now Krattiger is favored to win.  You have really sound logic  ::)