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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #105 on: April 25, 2021, 09:29:25 PM »
We have to consider some of the talent we have on the UW talent when looking at these guys ages and weight. Obviously the freshman make a ton of sense but if it is at a weight like Hamiti or Amos and they are a year younger, I’m not sure there will be a great fit for the wrestler/scholarship opportunities.

That is a good answer but hear me out. I have to ask this because I am not in the know at Wisconsin just reading the forum and seeing where they compete. Hilger and Copass are HWT. Looks like Christianson is also going to be a HWT with his current weight. Amos is competing at 213 which means in my eyes he has 16 pounds to trim off for an entire season of wrestling which could be a difficult cut unless he is getting the results being that far under weight which then is really impressive. I also know they have Empy on the roster but he is also 220 which means some weight loss also. Also with Amos talents in the international style he maybe taking some time off for an Olympic cycle which in turn I am looking to add some depth into the lineup and fill ins when needed. Also with some how they take years off nice to have some back ups that can fill in and compete in a high level.
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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2021, 09:53:20 PM »
I wouldn't mind cherry picking one or two from Minnesota as well:

182 Ryder Rogotzke, Stillwater, MN, Pinnacle Wrestling Club, 3rd MN State, 1st 2021 Cadet Greco Nationals, 3rd 2021 Cadet Freestyle Nationals

220 Gavin Nelson, Simley, MN, Simley Wrestling Club, 1st MN State, 1st 2021 Cadet Freestyle Nationals (From Kirkvliets hometown) 92KG

5 tech falls and outscored his opponents 53-1.  Pretty Impressive!

You never know.  We have tuition reciprocity with MN and it is just a short drive down to Madison :)

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2021, 10:02:49 PM »
I wouldn't mind cherry picking one or two from Minnesota as well:

182 Ryder Rogotzke, Stillwater, MN, Pinnacle Wrestling Club, 3rd MN State, 1st 2021 Cadet Greco Nationals, 3rd 2021 Cadet Freestyle Nationals

220 Gavin Nelson, Simley, MN, Simley Wrestling Club, 1st MN State, 1st 2021 Cadet Freestyle Nationals (From Kirkvliets hometown) 92KG

5 tech falls and outscored his opponents 53-1.  Pretty Impressive!

I hear Nelson actually lives and is from the Freedom/Little Chute area. Moved to the cities in 7th grade but goes back to Wisconsin often. Also Kirkvliet got his start in wrestling in Wisconsin until 7th grade then moved to Inver Grove. I do not think Minnesota let's those 2 leave the state of Minnesota.

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2021, 10:14:15 PM »
I was also super impressed with this Illinois wrestler who was in a really tough bracket:

120 Kannon Webster, Washington Il, IL State Champion, 5th 2021 Cadet Freestyle Nationals 55KG

He lives about 3 hours from Madison.

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2021, 12:04:03 AM »
I hope the Badger coaching staff is looking at Koy Hopke from Amery.  He almost beat Jim Mullen from NJ at the Cadet World Team Trials in the semi's.  Koy is an impressive young wrestler who won state as a 220lb freshman.

Agreed and very raw. Pretty average wrestler but great athlete that knows how to win! Image if he got some fine tunning how good he would be! I see he was wearing a pinnacle singlet so help maybe on the way!

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2021, 07:05:26 AM »
I hope the Badger coaching staff is looking at Koy Hopke from Amery.  He almost beat Jim Mullen from NJ at the Cadet World Team Trials in the semi's.  Koy is an impressive young wrestler who won state as a 220lb freshman.

Agreed and very raw. Pretty average wrestler but great athlete that knows how to win! Image if he got some fine tunning how good he would be! I see he was wearing a pinnacle singlet so help maybe on the way!

“Pretty average wrestler.”   Are you on quaaludes?

Probably a poor choice of words. Really raw with his skill set not as polished at this time. Once he gets that polish on his skill set he is going to be almost unstoppable! He wrestles through positions and is very, very good with his hips and a good athlete plus he has won at every level he has competed at! Wasnt trying to rip on him at all. Just noticed a few things during his matches that formed my opinion. Plus his age he is pretty young and from what I have been told not alot of club time either which makes what he has done more amazing!

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2021, 08:43:40 AM »
We have to consider some of the talent we have on the UW talent when looking at these guys ages and weight. Obviously the freshman make a ton of sense but if it is at a weight like Hamiti or Amos and they are a year younger, I’m not sure there will be a great fit for the wrestler/scholarship opportunities.

Definitely a good point. Just because they are rare talents, doesn't do anyone any good to give good scholarship money to guys who will never make the lineup or make it only once during their career. And if the Badgers were to stock pile talent, it should be in the lower weights where guys can move around and fill in where needed. So, Hopke and Ramberg are great, but we are pretty-well stocked with the big boys. On a different note, the Gophers do a pretty good job of poaching those Northwestern WI boys - kinda doubt Bono will get a whiff of them.
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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2021, 10:55:33 PM »
We have to consider some of the talent we have on the UW talent when looking at these guys ages and weight. Obviously the freshman make a ton of sense but if it is at a weight like Hamiti or Amos and they are a year younger, I’m not sure there will be a great fit for the wrestler/scholarship opportunities.

Definitely a good point. Just because they are rare talents, doesn't do anyone any good to give good scholarship money to guys who will never make the lineup or make it only once during their career. And if the Badgers were to stock pile talent, it should be in the lower weights where guys can move around and fill in where needed. So, Hopke and Ramberg are great, but we are pretty-well stocked with the big boys. On a different note, the Gophers do a pretty good job of poaching those Northwestern WI boys - kinda doubt Bono will get a whiff of them.

The Badgers have a in coming 4 year beast for 197 add in a returning AA at HWT with a heck of a solid in coming recruit plus Christianson and the upper weights are stacked to say the least. Wisconsin is doing a great job of landing national recruits for sure.

I will say that Hopke has 3 years of high school left so if your into math that makes it quite interesting for the future.

Yes in these parts the gophers, sdsu, ndsu, Wyoming and a couple of D2 colleges certainly are all over these parts really hard along with some eastern time zone schools.
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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2021, 10:59:31 PM »
I hope the Badger coaching staff is looking at Koy Hopke from Amery.  He almost beat Jim Mullen from NJ at the Cadet World Team Trials in the semi's.  Koy is an impressive young wrestler who won state as a 220lb freshman.

Agreed and very raw. Pretty average wrestler but great athlete that knows how to win! Image if he got some fine tunning how good he would be! I see he was wearing a pinnacle singlet so help maybe on the way!

“Pretty average wrestler.”   Are you on quaaludes?

Probably a poor choice of words. Really raw with his skill set not as polished at this time. Once he gets that polish on his skill set he is going to be almost unstoppable! He wrestles through positions and is very, very good with his hips and a good athlete plus he has won at every level he has competed at! Wasnt trying to rip on him at all. Just noticed a few things during his matches that formed my opinion. Plus his age he is pretty young and from what I have been told not alot of club time either which makes what he has done more amazing!


Hopke is a 3 sport athlete. He has done very well for sure not being a wrestling focused at all times. He has had some very good coaching so far but I think what hammer is saying now that he is doing alot more wrestling your going to see his wrestling take a monster jump if that is possible ;D
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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2021, 01:39:37 PM »
Kannon Webster verballed to Illinois, Poeta's influence being felt already.

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2021, 02:58:03 PM »
Kannon Webster verballed to Illinois, Poeta's influence being felt already.

I think Poeta will do good things at Illinois.  Webster has a lot of potential.

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #116 on: May 07, 2021, 09:18:15 PM »
Does DJ Hamiti get penciled in at 165? What transfers are available there?

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #117 on: May 08, 2021, 12:59:50 PM »
Does DJ Hamiti get penciled in at 165? What transfers are available there?

That is a great question. Dow? Plugging that hole is going to be tough but inthink the badgers will do it.
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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #118 on: May 09, 2021, 03:08:58 PM »
Will someone cut or move up for the time being?

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Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2021, 11:25:07 AM »
Will someone cut or move up for the time being?

I honestly thought Dow looks like a small 174. It would be interesting to see how he would perform at 165. I watched the Hamiti/Facundo match and I really like the way Hamiti competes in that match,  but I think it may be best for him to redshirt.

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