State tourney teams seeding?

[The wrestler]

Agree 45 champ. Never heard anybody say a word from Coleman and Stratford when they were in the same sec and team sec. And didn't hear anyone asked to separate them. They wrestled each other for many of years and both teams took 7 or 8 to Madison. Guess what champ we will find out Saturday. Coaches voted for the teams talk to them. What team did you wrestle for. Good luck to all teams.
Can not make all of us happy at the same time about this rant.

[wrastle63]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

[DuckDuck]

--One less placewinner than Stratford, with nothing from Blanchard
--2nd at Pulaski (to Kaukauna) by a whisker
--Won On the Water by over a 100.

I don't really think the case for any of those three teams is very strong vis-a-vis the other two. They're all pretty close. To throw a fit, like that isn't the case just looks silly.

See what you're missing for Fennimore 145 Mason Lull who took 3rd and beat Kuchta 8-2.

[The wrestler]

92 45 champ. Haven't seen your school at team state in years no dog in the fight for you.

[ramjet]

--One less placewinner than Stratford, with nothing from Blanchard
--2nd at Pulaski (to Kaukauna) by a whisker
--Won On the Water by over a 100.

I don't really think the case for any of those three teams is very strong vis-a-vis the other two. They're all pretty close. To throw a fit, like that isn't the case just looks silly.

This is good shows potential match ups nicely.

[1992statechamp145]

92champ45 what school were you a champ ?

Athens.   Does that help clear up who I am.   Or do you want me to tell you

[The wrestler]

Yes I looked you up. Now I know why you are ranting. Like I said Stratford must be with you now.
Take your turn. Good luck at Team state

[1992statechamp145]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

No.  It's not about Stratford over Coleman. My opinion is Fennimore the defending state champs that didn't lose much from last should have best  case for #1 seed  and Stratford and Coleman should be 2 or 3 respectively and for argument sake Coleman can be #2 Let them hash it out in first Round. Then the 2 Best teams will be competing for championship.   

[wrastle63]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

No.  It's not about Stratford over Coleman. My opinion is Fennimore the defending state champs that didn't lose much from last should have best  case for #1 seed  and Stratford and Coleman should be 2 or 3 respectively and for argument sake Coleman can be #2 Let them hash it out in first Round. Then the 2 Best teams will be competing for championship.

Coleman had more state qualifiers and state place winners than Fennimore. Including outplacing them at 3 weights. Sound logic.

[1992statechamp145]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

No.  It's not about Stratford over Coleman. My opinion is Fennimore the defending state champs that didn't lose much from last should have best  case for #1 seed  and Stratford and Coleman should be 2 or 3 respectively and for argument sake Coleman can be #2 Let them hash it out in first Round. Then the 2 Best teams will be competing for championship.

Coleman had more state qualifiers and state place winners than Fennimore. Including outplacing them at 3 weights. Sound logic.

Sound logic. 10 = 66 points  that's good for 4th place team wise by sound logic 10 wrestlers should have easily won team score at the state meet  Not the case  why.  Oh yah. Easy sectional. And it showed   So 10 wrestlers at state is not fair representation of how good your team is Stratford had 7 they scored 96 and if I remember correctly Fennimore and Cadott outscored Coleman as well with less.  Sound logic 😂

[ramjet]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

No.  It's not about Stratford over Coleman. My opinion is Fennimore the defending state champs that didn't lose much from last should have best  case for #1 seed  and Stratford and Coleman should be 2 or 3 respectively and for argument sake Coleman can be #2 Let them hash it out in first Round. Then the 2 Best teams will be competing for championship.

Coleman had more state qualifiers and state place winners than Fennimore. Including outplacing them at 3 weights. Sound logic.

Sound logic. 10 = 66 points  that's good for 4th place team wise by sound logic 10 wrestlers should have easily won team score at the state meet  Not the case  why.  Oh yah. Easy sectional. And it showed   So 10 wrestlers at state is not fair representation of how good your team is Stratford had 7 they scored 96 and if I remember correctly Fennimore and Cadott outscored Coleman as well with less.  Sound logic 😂

Computer based seeding then the coaches voted. Not sure the value of the voting was compared to the seeding criteria but it had some impact or why do it ? Fennimore can still be the State Champion if they win two right? I think Coleman matches up better against Fennimore than they do Stratford on the head to head. Plus let's give Random Lake some respect they loosing without wrestling is not fair to them. In the end it will all play out.

[The wrestler]

Great point RamJet Rondom Lake could beat Coleman Just asking where did Codott and Athens fall in points

[wrastle63]

I would love to hear any argument that anyone would have to defend Coleman of getting #1  the truth is Random Lake is the only team they could beat    Fennimore and Stratford would both Agree   Coleman only  had that many qualifiers because Stratford got moved from that sectional.  Coleman  don't Evan make it to state if Stratford is still in that sectional  period.

What is the argument for Stratford over Coleman? If it is such a no brainer as you say there should be an easy explanation. 

No.  It's not about Stratford over Coleman. My opinion is Fennimore the defending state champs that didn't lose much from last should have best  case for #1 seed  and Stratford and Coleman should be 2 or 3 respectively and for argument sake Coleman can be #2 Let them hash it out in first Round. Then the 2 Best teams will be competing for championship.

Coleman had more state qualifiers and state place winners than Fennimore. Including outplacing them at 3 weights. Sound logic.

Sound logic. 10 = 66 points  that's good for 4th place team wise by sound logic 10 wrestlers should have easily won team score at the state meet  Not the case  why.  Oh yah. Easy sectional. And it showed   So 10 wrestlers at state is not fair representation of how good your team is Stratford had 7 they scored 96 and if I remember correctly Fennimore and Cadott outscored Coleman as well with less.  Sound logic 😂

State Individual scoring is our measure of how good a team is? Arrowhead outscored everyone but yet they are a 4 seed why?
Your valuing just the top wrestlers of each team. At 106 Lemieux scored 0 points at state but in a dual who are you taking a state qualifier or wrestler who hasn't even won a match this year? That's why they used a seeding criteria.

[wsalem]

D3 is a a circus! You move Stratford west and in doing so prevent Cadott the #3/#4 team in the state from getting there. Yes I think they beat Random Lake and give Coleman all they can handle. You further blow things by issuing Coleman the #1 seed leaving the State Championship to occur in the Simi-Finals between Fennimore and Stratford. Ahhh!

[Fabulous Falcons]

So much turmoil. . .

shouldvewrestled posted [D3 Seeding Team State thread 2-19-20], "I think Random Lake should get a bye to the finals. Stratford, Coleman, and Fennimore wrestle a round robin to see who gets to try and beat them "

Seems rather logical