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billymurphy

The Big Ten Conference results are extremely important since that is the conference the Badgers compete in.

Ghetto

As long as we are keeping score, I've got something to prove

wrastle63

Quote from: leg turk on January 29, 2018, 02:17:45 PM
Oh I am informed, its called the eye test.  And don't tell me what to do.
Informed about St. Donny being the second coming? Yea we got that. The eye test gave you good information before too. I'd much rather trust the data.

leg turk

Quote from: wrastle63 on January 29, 2018, 06:45:06 PM
Quote from: leg turk on January 29, 2018, 02:17:45 PM
Oh I am informed, its called the eye test.  And don't tell me what to do.
Informed about St. Donny being the second coming? Yea we got that. The eye test gave you good information before too. I'd much rather trust the data.

Yep that's it, bury your head in the sand, put the blinders on, drink the kool-aid...  someday you will be frustrated also with The leader of this program.  Good luck!

Ghetto

I'd like to be on SDSU's trajectory. That Bono guy is awesome. He does talk about his admin support and conversations that I don't think he would get at Wisconsin.
As long as we are keeping score, I've got something to prove

dad 2 5

Quote from: Ghetto on January 29, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
I'd like to be on SDSU's trajectory. That Bono guy is awesome. He does talk about his admin support and conversations that I don't think he would get at Wisconsin.

He has done a nice job but we are talking the Big 12. A lot easier there then the Big Ten. With that being said Gross is a focus and Kocer is legit. They are having another good year.

wrastle63

Quote from: leg turk on January 29, 2018, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 29, 2018, 06:45:06 PM
Quote from: leg turk on January 29, 2018, 02:17:45 PM
Oh I am informed, its called the eye test.  And don't tell me what to do.
Informed about St. Donny being the second coming? Yea we got that. The eye test gave you good information before too. I'd much rather trust the data.

Yep that's it, bury your head in the sand, put the blinders on, drink the kool-aid...  someday you will be frustrated also with The leader of this program.  Good luck!
I am, but I don't waste my time with a coach who has moved on and still isn't a head coach. You can get Barry but can't deny the stats JW posted.

Barou

Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 07:35:27 PM

To compare: Wisconsin had 39.5 in 13th place. They got 2.5 less from 2nd place Medbury than SDSU got from 2nd place Gross (bonus points), but Zeke's 4th place finish netted 8 more points than Kocer's 8th place. In addition to the Badgers' two All-Americans, here's what we got from the rest of the team (9 points from the other 7 guys).

J. Jimenez @ 125 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
C. Martin @ 141 - (0 Wins) - 0 Points
A. Crone @ 149 - R12 (3 Wins) - 2 Points
TJ Ruschell @ 157 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
I. Taylor @ 165 - 4th Place (4 Wins) - 13.5 Points
R. Christensen @174 - R16 (2 Wins) - 1 Point
H. Ritter @184 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
R. Robertson @197 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
C. Medbury @ 285 - 2nd Place (4 Wins) - 17 Points


The Badgers graduated 31 of 39.5 team points from last year's 13th place squad. I don't think they're getting to 40 this year, but I could see Evan Wick and Crone finding the podium for something like 20 points, and depending on how many bonus point wins Christensen/Robertson/Ritter are able to rack up, I expect us to be back in the Top 20 despite that much production graduating. Rutgers was 19th with 24.5 points last year.

Frankly, I'd expect a couple teams to gobble up most of the high placement and advancement points, which actually lowers the point total needed to reach the Top 20, Top 10, etc.

The days of UW finishing ahead of Rutgers will be all but over.  The Rutgers program is on the upswing.  Simply put they do everything better.  Go to one of their duals then go to the fieldhouse for a dual and the energy level is completely different. 
JHI Mafia

wrastle63

Quote from: Barou on January 30, 2018, 07:44:45 AM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 07:35:27 PM

To compare: Wisconsin had 39.5 in 13th place. They got 2.5 less from 2nd place Medbury than SDSU got from 2nd place Gross (bonus points), but Zeke's 4th place finish netted 8 more points than Kocer's 8th place. In addition to the Badgers' two All-Americans, here's what we got from the rest of the team (9 points from the other 7 guys).

J. Jimenez @ 125 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
C. Martin @ 141 - (0 Wins) - 0 Points
A. Crone @ 149 - R12 (3 Wins) - 2 Points
TJ Ruschell @ 157 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
I. Taylor @ 165 - 4th Place (4 Wins) - 13.5 Points
R. Christensen @174 - R16 (2 Wins) - 1 Point
H. Ritter @184 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
R. Robertson @197 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
C. Medbury @ 285 - 2nd Place (4 Wins) - 17 Points


The Badgers graduated 31 of 39.5 team points from last year's 13th place squad. I don't think they're getting to 40 this year, but I could see Evan Wick and Crone finding the podium for something like 20 points, and depending on how many bonus point wins Christensen/Robertson/Ritter are able to rack up, I expect us to be back in the Top 20 despite that much production graduating. Rutgers was 19th with 24.5 points last year.

Frankly, I'd expect a couple teams to gobble up most of the high placement and advancement points, which actually lowers the point total needed to reach the Top 20, Top 10, etc.

The days of UW finishing ahead of Rutgers will be all but over.  The Rutgers program is on the upswing.  Simply put they do everything better.  Go to one of their duals then go to the fieldhouse for a dual and the energy level is completely different. 
Highly debatable. Rutgers has over half their lineups as seniors. They will graduate Delvecchio, Ashnault, Deluca, Richie Lewis, Gravina, Messner at 197, and Gross at HWT. So they will be losing 70% of their lineup. Good luck replacing all of that.

Ivan Stankowski

Quote from: wrastle63 on January 30, 2018, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: Barou on January 30, 2018, 07:44:45 AM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 07:35:27 PM

To compare: Wisconsin had 39.5 in 13th place. They got 2.5 less from 2nd place Medbury than SDSU got from 2nd place Gross (bonus points), but Zeke's 4th place finish netted 8 more points than Kocer's 8th place. In addition to the Badgers' two All-Americans, here's what we got from the rest of the team (9 points from the other 7 guys).

J. Jimenez @ 125 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
C. Martin @ 141 - (0 Wins) - 0 Points
A. Crone @ 149 - R12 (3 Wins) - 2 Points
TJ Ruschell @ 157 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
I. Taylor @ 165 - 4th Place (4 Wins) - 13.5 Points
R. Christensen @174 - R16 (2 Wins) - 1 Point
H. Ritter @184 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
R. Robertson @197 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
C. Medbury @ 285 - 2nd Place (4 Wins) - 17 Points


The Badgers graduated 31 of 39.5 team points from last year's 13th place squad. I don't think they're getting to 40 this year, but I could see Evan Wick and Crone finding the podium for something like 20 points, and depending on how many bonus point wins Christensen/Robertson/Ritter are able to rack up, I expect us to be back in the Top 20 despite that much production graduating. Rutgers was 19th with 24.5 points last year.

Frankly, I'd expect a couple teams to gobble up most of the high placement and advancement points, which actually lowers the point total needed to reach the Top 20, Top 10, etc.

The days of UW finishing ahead of Rutgers will be all but over.  The Rutgers program is on the upswing.  Simply put they do everything better.  Go to one of their duals then go to the fieldhouse for a dual and the energy level is completely different. 
Highly debatable. Rutgers has over half their lineups as seniors. They will graduate Delvecchio, Ashnault, Deluca, Richie Lewis, Gravina, Messner at 197, and Gross at HWT. So they will be losing 70% of their lineup. Good luck replacing all of that.

Rutgers has some studs redshirting this year, they will be just fine

wrastle63

Quote from: Ivan Stankowski on January 30, 2018, 10:05:55 AM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 30, 2018, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: Barou on January 30, 2018, 07:44:45 AM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Japanese Whizzer on January 29, 2018, 07:35:27 PM

To compare: Wisconsin had 39.5 in 13th place. They got 2.5 less from 2nd place Medbury than SDSU got from 2nd place Gross (bonus points), but Zeke's 4th place finish netted 8 more points than Kocer's 8th place. In addition to the Badgers' two All-Americans, here's what we got from the rest of the team (9 points from the other 7 guys).

J. Jimenez @ 125 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
C. Martin @ 141 - (0 Wins) - 0 Points
A. Crone @ 149 - R12 (3 Wins) - 2 Points
TJ Ruschell @ 157 - R24 (1 Win) - .5 Points
I. Taylor @ 165 - 4th Place (4 Wins) - 13.5 Points
R. Christensen @174 - R16 (2 Wins) - 1 Point
H. Ritter @184 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
R. Robertson @197 - R24 (1 Win) - 2.5 Points
C. Medbury @ 285 - 2nd Place (4 Wins) - 17 Points


The Badgers graduated 31 of 39.5 team points from last year's 13th place squad. I don't think they're getting to 40 this year, but I could see Evan Wick and Crone finding the podium for something like 20 points, and depending on how many bonus point wins Christensen/Robertson/Ritter are able to rack up, I expect us to be back in the Top 20 despite that much production graduating. Rutgers was 19th with 24.5 points last year.

Frankly, I'd expect a couple teams to gobble up most of the high placement and advancement points, which actually lowers the point total needed to reach the Top 20, Top 10, etc.

The days of UW finishing ahead of Rutgers will be all but over.  The Rutgers program is on the upswing.  Simply put they do everything better.  Go to one of their duals then go to the fieldhouse for a dual and the energy level is completely different. 
Highly debatable. Rutgers has over half their lineups as seniors. They will graduate Delvecchio, Ashnault, Deluca, Richie Lewis, Gravina, Messner at 197, and Gross at HWT. So they will be losing 70% of their lineup. Good luck replacing all of that.

Rutgers has some studs redshirting this year, they will be just fine

Who are these studs they have redshirting? Because if you look at their roster I don't see them.

Wrestling Thug

Ashnault medical redshirt will be back next year

bigG

I think we can agree he's a stud.
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

wrastle63

So they lose 6 starters. People are worried about us losing Crone and Rocky, but they lose 6 and they're going to be in better position then us.

dad 2 5

http://scarletknights.com/news/2017/11/15/wrestling-announces-2018-signing-class.aspx

https://www.onthebanks.com/2017/11/16/13791878/the-rankings-and-the-recruiting-for-rutgers-wrestling-are-on-the-rise

Flo wrestling has ranked the incoming 2018 RU recruits as follows:

Aguilar 9th at 120
Robinson 3rd at 138
Brenner 10th at 145
Janzer 4th at 170
Lightner 12th at 220

Glasgow is not included in these rankings but he was a top 5 ranking last year at 152. I think he was 3rd. He is doing his post grad year at St. Benedict's in Newark this year. Nice class.

Rutgers Scarlet Knights

                                         2017-18 Recruiting

Jake Benner--Ocean Township, New Jersey  (149 LBS)

Malcolm Robinson--Edison, New Jersey  (133 LBS)

Billy Janzer--Delsea, New Jersey  (174 LBS)

Kyle Lightner--Delaware Valley, New Jersey  (197 LBS)