What happened to a good hand shake?

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Quote from: ramjet on December 31, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Sometimes it's not how you win but how you loose..........it's not "sportsmanship" as much as it is respect for the sport, the opponent and the hard work and effort that is associated with all of that.

"old school"  ;D

I think you meant "lose" as opposed to "loose."

wrastle63

Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: ramjet on December 31, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Sometimes it's not how you win but how you loose..........it's not "sportsmanship" as much as it is respect for the sport, the opponent and the hard work and effort that is associated with all of that.

"old school"  ;D

I think you meant "lose" as opposed to "loose."
Wow.... always that one guy. Grammar nazi

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Not cool to bring up Nazis.  And I am a woman.  More sexist rhetoric. 

imnofish

Quote from: ramjet on December 31, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Sometimes it's not how you win but how you loose..........it's not "sportsmanship" as much as it is respect for the sport, the opponent and the hard work and effort that is associated with all of that.

"old school"  ;D

Absolutely agree.  RESPECT is the key point of all this.  That also includes respect for oneself, as evidenced by how the individual publicly presents himself/herself.  The wrestling community needs to stay vigilant, keep our standards high, and not get emotionally lazy on this issue.  The future of the sport and its participants depends on our willingness to do so.  We should never walk away from the handshake tradition between wrestlers.  
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imnofish

Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Not cool to bring up Nazis.  And I am a woman.  More sexist rhetoric. 

I don't think the comment was meant to be sexist and the term "grammar Nazis" is a common online figure of speech.  There is no way for any of us to consistently ascertain what the other person's intent was, so I am hoping that you were just trying to be helpful.  As for the grammar/spelling critique, that has become an online faux pas, since most people are posting from a phone and auto-correct generates many irregularities.  As a retired educator, I have also struggled with my corrective instincts, but I've gradually become less critical in this context.  I have read some of your other comments on here and enjoy your insights on the sport.  Welcome to the forum!
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ramjet

Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: ramjet on December 31, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Sometimes it's not how you win but how you loose..........it's not "sportsmanship" as much as it is respect for the sport, the opponent and the hard work and effort that is associated with all of that.

"old school"  ;D

I think you meant "lose" as opposed to "loose."

I did thanks I should have reviewed this.  ;D

T.Vieau

I'm with OldAbes on this one. The initial hand shake and the respectful handshake after the match is enough.  I'm not really sure when it started, but the going over to the opposing coaches to shake hands is not needed and is a little overkill.

imnofish

Quote from: T.Vieau on December 31, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
I'm with OldAbes on this one. The initial hand shake and the respectful handshake after the match is enough.  I'm not really sure when it started, but the going over to the opposing coaches to shake hands is not needed and is a little overkill.

I think the latter is a good option for those so inclined, but not a necessity.  We should expect and enforce the traditional pre- and post-match handshakes, but leave the additional handshakes an option. 
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Ghetto

Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Not cool to bring up Nazis.  And I am a woman.  More sexist rhetoric. 

I'm gonna guess that the word guy would come from the fact that 99.73456% of posts are from dudes.
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Quote from: Ghetto on January 01, 2018, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Not cool to bring up Nazis.  And I am a woman.  More sexist rhetoric. 

I'm gonna guess that the word guy would come from the fact that 99.73456% of posts are from dudes.

;D ;D ;D

Ya'll been punked.   Not a woman, but I am sensitive.

littleguy301

Quote from: imnofish on December 31, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: T.Vieau on December 31, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
I'm with OldAbes on this one. The initial hand shake and the respectful handshake after the match is enough.  I'm not really sure when it started, but the going over to the opposing coaches to shake hands is not needed and is a little overkill.

I think the latter is a good option for those so inclined, but not a necessity.  We should expect and enforce the traditional pre- and post-match handshakes, but leave the additional handshakes an option. 

there you go fish,,,,,,,option to shake other hands.

though as a coach do we have an option to shake the other kids hand? I think the coaches should have a voice in this  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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imnofish

Quote from: littleguy301 on January 01, 2018, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: imnofish on December 31, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: T.Vieau on December 31, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
I'm with OldAbes on this one. The initial hand shake and the respectful handshake after the match is enough.  I'm not really sure when it started, but the going over to the opposing coaches to shake hands is not needed and is a little overkill.

I think the latter is a good option for those so inclined, but not a necessity.  We should expect and enforce the traditional pre- and post-match handshakes, but leave the additional handshakes an option. 

there you go fish,,,,,,,option to shake other hands.

though as a coach do we have an option to shake the other kids hand? I think the coaches should have a voice in this  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If dollars are free speech, so are hand shakes!  Coaches have free speech rights, too!   ;D ;D ;D
None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann Von Goethe

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joeski

Our conference, the MVC, did away with the post match handshake with coaches a couple years ago. I believe you can even lose a team point for it. When we go to tournaments, they have been trained so well, that opposing coaches look a little puzzled sometimes when our kids just walk past them. But the post match handshake between individuals is still important, I believe anyways. I don't even like the quick hand slip when you lose. You had your chance to win the match, the same as the other person. Show them some respect, shake there hand, and figure how to beat them next time. So then they have to show you respect.

imnofish

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Quote from: Ghetto on January 01, 2018, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Preview Specialist on December 31, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Not cool to bring up Nazis.  And I am a woman.  More sexist rhetoric. 

I'm gonna guess that the word guy would come from the fact that 99.73456% of posts are from dudes.

;D ;D ;D

Ya'll been punked.   Not a woman, but I am sensitive.

Really?   :o :o :o :o  You really do write like a woman.   How's that for some sexist rhetoric?  ;)
None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann Von Goethe

Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints!

ramjet

Hard to trust anything PS posts in the future however the correction to my post was appropriate.