Fargo results 2010-2016

[SP]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

[aarons23]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

[SP]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

When you are comparing state programs it is a fair comparison. Our girls are under the same type of program as the boys.

Without the boys here is the AA totals;
1. Illinois- 59
2. Pennsylvania- 34
3. Minnesota- 33
4. Michigan- 30 (they had no girls AA)
5. Iowa- 27
6. Colorado- 22
6. Ohio- 22
8. Oklahoma- 21
9. Wisconsin- 20
9. New Jersey- 20
11. New York- 18
11. Missouri- 18
11. California- 18 (40 of their 58 AA's were women)
14. Utah- 17
15. Oregon- 14
16. Kansas- 13
16. Arizona- 13
16. Washington- 13

[aarons23]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

When you are comparing state programs it is a fair comparison. Our girls are under the same type of program as the boys.

Without the boys here is the AA totals;
1. Illinois- 59
2. Pennsylvania- 34
3. Minnesota- 33
4. Michigan- 30 (they had no girls AA)
5. Iowa- 27
6. Colorado- 22
6. Ohio- 22
8. Oklahoma- 21
9. Wisconsin- 20
9. New Jersey- 20
11. New York- 18
11. Missouri- 18
11. California- 18 (40 of their 58 AA's were women)
14. Utah- 17
15. Oregon- 14
16. Kansas- 13
16. Arizona- 13
16. Washington- 13

You know as well as I do that our state is well ahead of most states in the girls division.  Which because of there success makes our winning percentage for the state much higher than other states who do not have the participation or the success our girls are having. BTW...didn't the girls do the duals that USA wrestling has for girls?  Go ahead and compare the girls program to the others in the state..they are doing great...but to use those numbers with the boys to compare 2 totally different programs isn't really comparing the proper metrics.

[dman]

 

[padre]

Some of this stuff is so sickening to read.  Parents complain no matter what anyone is trying to do.  Now Aarons says you can't use ALL the athletes to say how your program is going?  You should let everyone know parameters because you apparently know so much on how to build a program....oh yeah....you don't....you just end up at a different location with schools who are building something good.  How about all the really good kids that decided not to participate in Fargo?  How do we really know where we stand when all of the best kids don't go?  There is no REAL way to say where we stand as a whole...but SPs stats show the best that they can.

As far as know gangs...so you are using hearsay by another complaining parent to show that there may be favoritism?  Lame. There are many parents you can never make happy and excuse making many times leads to the favoritism battle.   If I knew my kids needed a scale?  Guess what...I send a scale. How many kids missed weight?  If its basically none then this is a non-issue and didn't need to be brought up to ridicule coaches.  As far as kids being tired..maybe some of our kids aren't doing enough on their own to be in the shape they should be if they REALLY want to compete to be an AA.  But nah....lets blame a few tough days of wrestling over it being our own kids fault.  The sign of the times.

If a family is so interested in their kid going to Fargo and need to plan for the future one phone call is all it takes.  Phone numbers are on the federation site.  So many people have to have their hand held through the whole process and then look for someone to blame.  Those of us that have ever actually been part of building something know thats just the way it is...everyone has 20/20 hindsight.  Its very unfortunate and likely the reason some coaches don't want to be involved with it and definitely the reason some leave it.

If they're not doing duals...get over it.  Duffy made some great points that maybe some parents should take a step back and think about it...although I know they won't.  Most of the ones with kids that are about dual age are the ones arguing it so hard as they are just looking out for their kid and want their kid to get that experience.  Its a great experience...but in no way correlates to how good the overall team will do at Fargo.  If you want grueling matches for your kids there are plenty of tournaments around the country to take them all summer.

[SP]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

When you are comparing state programs it is a fair comparison. Our girls are under the same type of program as the boys.

Without the boys here is the AA totals;
1. Illinois- 59
2. Pennsylvania- 34
3. Minnesota- 33
4. Michigan- 30 (they had no girls AA)
5. Iowa- 27
6. Colorado- 22
6. Ohio- 22
8. Oklahoma- 21
9. Wisconsin- 20
9. New Jersey- 20
11. New York- 18
11. Missouri- 18
11. California- 18 (40 of their 58 AA's were women)
14. Utah- 17
15. Oregon- 14
16. Kansas- 13
16. Arizona- 13
16. Washington- 13

You know as well as I do that our state is well ahead of most states in the girls division.  Which because of there success makes our winning percentage for the state much higher than other states who do not have the participation or the success our girls are having. BTW...didn't the girls do the duals that USA wrestling has for girls?  Go ahead and compare the girls program to the others in the state..they are doing great...but to use those numbers with the boys to compare 2 totally different programs isn't really comparing the proper metrics.

The winning percentage used was only from Junior freestyle.

The girls do the duals in Fargo. The duals are after the cadet and junior tournaments are completed. This year they had the highest number of injuries in the girls division. They also had more medical forfeits than they ever have had. 

[aarons23]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

When you are comparing state programs it is a fair comparison. Our girls are under the same type of program as the boys.

Without the boys here is the AA totals;
1. Illinois- 59
2. Pennsylvania- 34
3. Minnesota- 33
4. Michigan- 30 (they had no girls AA)
5. Iowa- 27
6. Colorado- 22
6. Ohio- 22
8. Oklahoma- 21
9. Wisconsin- 20
9. New Jersey- 20
11. New York- 18
11. Missouri- 18
11. California- 18 (40 of their 58 AA's were women)
14. Utah- 17
15. Oregon- 14
16. Kansas- 13
16. Arizona- 13
16. Washington- 13

You know as well as I do that our state is well ahead of most states in the girls division.  Which because of there success makes our winning percentage for the state much higher than other states who do not have the participation or the success our girls are having. BTW...didn't the girls do the duals that USA wrestling has for girls?  Go ahead and compare the girls program to the others in the state..they are doing great...but to use those numbers with the boys to compare 2 totally different programs isn't really comparing the proper metrics.

The winning percentage used was only from Junior freestyle.

The girls do the duals in Fargo. The duals are after the cadet and junior tournaments are completed. This year they had the highest number of injuries in the girls division. They also had more medical forfeits than they ever have had. 

So are you saying with out injuries that our girls would have done even better?  I agree.  Also all four of our champions are from our girls, plus I believe 3 seconds....that alone will increase our winning percentage. 

[Houndhead]

If Aaron thinks going to the duals is important, is there any reason he can't recruit kids to form a team to take to duals? It seems like a win,win. Those that want to do the duals can do them, and those that don't want, don't have to.

[billymurphy]

To increase the winning percentage at Fargo even higher it is clear that Wisconsin should
only send the girls.

[npope]

To increase the winning percentage at Fargo even higher it is clear that Wisconsin should
only send the girls.

Ha! Very astute point, Billy

[SP]

In the latest WIN Magazine.

State by State Breakdown of each state: This includes all six divisions, Cadet FS & GR, Junior FS & GR, Womens Cadet and Junior FS

1. Illinois- 346 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 68 AA's, 5th best winning %
2. California- 275 wrestlers, 7 champs, 58 AA's, 21st best winning %
3. Pennsylvania- 179 Wrestlers, 3 champs, 39 AA's, 2nd best winning %
4. Minnesota- 246 wrestlers, 7 Champs, 36 AA's, 9th best winning %
5. Wisconsin- 176 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 34 AA's, 6th best winning %
6. New York- 215 wrestlers, 5 Champs, 31 AA's, 22nd best winning %
7. Iowa- 193 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 4th best winning %
7. Michigan- 87 wrestlers, 3 Champs, 30 AA's, 1st best winning %
9. Colorado- 173 wrestlers, 6 Champs, 27 AA's, 14th best winning %
9. Washington- 177 wrestlers, 4 Champs, 27 AA's, 23rd best winning %

Population of states-
1. California- 37.2 mil
2. Texas- 25.1 mil
3. New York- 19.3 mil
4. Florida- 18.8 mil
5. Illinois- 12.8 mil
6. Pennsylvania- 12.7 mil
7. Ohio- 11.5 mil
8. Michigan- 9.8 mil
9. Georgia- 9.6 mil
10. North Carolina- 9.5 mil
11. New Jersey- 8.7

Others-
13. Washington- 6.7 mil
15. Indiana- 6.4 mil
20. Wisconsin- 5.7 mil
21. Minnesota- 5.3 mil
22. Colorado- 5 mil

Pretty sure our girls boosted our numbers quite a bit.  Which is great for the state for girls.  The other states are not doing very good there so not really an apples to apples comparison.

When you are comparing state programs it is a fair comparison. Our girls are under the same type of program as the boys.

Without the boys here is the AA totals;
1. Illinois- 59
2. Pennsylvania- 34
3. Minnesota- 33
4. Michigan- 30 (they had no girls AA)
5. Iowa- 27
6. Colorado- 22
6. Ohio- 22
8. Oklahoma- 21
9. Wisconsin- 20
9. New Jersey- 20
11. New York- 18
11. Missouri- 18
11. California- 18 (40 of their 58 AA's were women)
14. Utah- 17
15. Oregon- 14
16. Kansas- 13
16. Arizona- 13
16. Washington- 13

You know as well as I do that our state is well ahead of most states in the girls division.  Which because of there success makes our winning percentage for the state much higher than other states who do not have the participation or the success our girls are having. BTW...didn't the girls do the duals that USA wrestling has for girls?  Go ahead and compare the girls program to the others in the state..they are doing great...but to use those numbers with the boys to compare 2 totally different programs isn't really comparing the proper metrics.

The winning percentage used was only from Junior freestyle.

The girls do the duals in Fargo. The duals are after the cadet and junior tournaments are completed. This year they had the highest number of injuries in the girls division. They also had more medical forfeits than they ever have had. 

The injuries were not just Wisconsin. It was the overall girls events.

Yes, adding in the girls would increase our winning percentage.

[TomM]

2016 WWF District Meetings; Wednesday, September 14

http://www.wiwrestling.com/5709-2/

All feedback, opinions and questions should be directed towards the area director of your home geographical district. The WWF district meetings are open to the public and everyone is welcome and encouraged to attend.

---Districts
The Wisconsin Wrestling Federation is divided into eight districts with a representative from each district responsible for the operation of the annual district meeting. Each district shall conduct an annual meeting of members from within their respective district prior to the WWF state annual meeting held in October. At the annual district meeting, each district will hold elections.