AD - Jordan predictions

ramjet · March 19, 2016, 08:50:34 PM

This is exactly why one should not make emotional picks.....AD is a beast.

onwisconsin · March 19, 2016, 08:53:28 PM

Zeke never quit. AD just too good. Great season Zeke!!

onwisconsin · March 19, 2016, 08:54:05 PM

Agree, Can't wait for next year!!

Micah · March 19, 2016, 08:55:58 PM

IJ wrestled well and went for it when had the chance. Dieringer is so solid in all positions. I don't remember the last time I saw him get taken down, his SO year maybe? Guys can't get past his hands.

MNbadger · March 20, 2016, 11:49:16 AM

Dieringer looked huge at 165!

billymurphy · March 21, 2016, 12:41:06 PM

Dieringer was on a whole different level.
I think Alex wins the Hodge.

GradeTough · March 21, 2016, 12:50:44 PM

Retherford (Penn State) wins the Hodge. No question about it. The most dominant wrestler pound-for-pound in the country. His statistics back him up.

Micah · March 21, 2016, 01:00:19 PM

It's going to go to AD I think though, while I agree awards like this should be yearly they tend to look at body of work. Especially if it is close.

Ghetto · March 21, 2016, 01:32:00 PM

I agree that Retherford was crazy good this year. It also is a one year award, not a career thing. However, a 3xer who only lost once in the NCAAs has to get that Hodge this year.

aarons23 · March 21, 2016, 01:47:08 PM

Pretty sure I read that one qualification is to be undefeated.....Zane is not undefeated. I also think it said something about career accomplishements which three time NCAA champion would trump anything that Zane has done.

hammen · March 21, 2016, 01:57:39 PM

Quote from: aarons23 on March 21, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Pretty sure I read that one qualification is to be undefeated.....Zane is not undefeated. I also think it said something about career accomplishements which three time NCAA champion would trump anything that Zane has done.

Zane ended the season 34-0 with bonus points in all NCAA tournament matches; full season was 15 falls, 8 techs, 7 majors. That's bonus points in 88.2% of matches. Stats according to trackwrestling and flowrestling for tournament and season, respectively.

Alex ended the season 33-0 with bonus points in 3 of 5 NCAA tournament matches; full season was 12 falls, 7 techs, 8 majors. That's bonus points in 81.8% of matches. Stats according to trackwrestling and flowrestling for tournament and season, respectively.

aarons23 · March 21, 2016, 02:04:10 PM

Quote from: hammen on March 21, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: aarons23 on March 21, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Pretty sure I read that one qualification is to be undefeated.....Zane is not undefeated. I also think it said something about career accomplishements which three time NCAA champion would trump anything that Zane has done.

Zane ended the season 34-0 with bonus points in all NCAA tournament matches; full season was 15 falls, 8 techs, 7 majors. That's bonus points in 88.2% of matches. Stats according to trackwrestling and flowrestling for tournament and season, respectively.

Alex ended the season 33-0 with bonus points in 3 of 5 NCAA tournament matches; full season was 12 falls, 7 techs, 8 majors. That's bonus points in 81.8% of matches. Stats according to trackwrestling and flowrestling for tournament and season, respectively.

You are correct...I thought Zane had 1 loss.....the three titles still trumps Zane.

Micah · March 21, 2016, 02:07:00 PM

Either guy is deserving I would lean toward the Sr but if Zane won the Hodge I would have no issues.

hammen · March 21, 2016, 02:15:44 PM

It's going to be close. Retherford has #2 and #3 of the criteria. They tie for #1. Alex has #4. Quality of competition is something that might go to Retherford. Pretty sure according to flo that he beat more ranked wrestlers this year, and Alex had only 2 wins against a returning AA's (Wilson of Stanford and Zeke), which is certainly out of his control. Retherford had a slightly tougher field w/ wins over Tsirtsis (2x returning AA), Sorensen (returning AA) and Evan Hendersen (2x returning AA). I would give the nod to Alex for #6 and #7, but no doubt there's an argument for Retherford there. That would have it as a tie in terms of the 7 criteria. It's going to be a close one - hope Alex gets it.

Barou · March 21, 2016, 03:54:59 PM

Quote from: hammen on March 21, 2016, 02:15:44 PM
It's going to be close. Retherford has #2 and #3 of the criteria. They tie for #1. Alex has #4. Quality of competition is something that might go to Retherford. Pretty sure according to flo that he beat more ranked wrestlers this year, and Alex had only 2 wins against a returning AA's (Wilson of Stanford and Zeke), which is certainly out of his control. Retherford had a slightly tougher field w/ wins over Tsirtsis (2x returning AA), Sorensen (returning AA) and Evan Hendersen (2x returning AA). I would give the nod to Alex for #6 and #7, but no doubt there's an argument for Retherford there. That would have it as a tie in terms of the 7 criteria. It's going to be a close one - hope Alex gets it.

Perfect analysis! I think Alex gets it because of the senior/sophomore scenario.