RL vs. Coleman

Started by Gutwrench, February 19, 2014, 09:57:48 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

hammen

Quote from: CrossAnkle on February 24, 2014, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: hammen on February 24, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
Wins from Jon Mudlaff and/or Trent Gottsacker will be the difference. I am confident both will win, with Jon being most likely.

hmmm I wouldnt bet on that one, i guess anything is possible.  I think they have a better chance of winning 132 than 126 or 138. The 113 pound match is going be interesting as well kohn is tough.

I will actually bet on both.

CrossAnkle

Quote from: hammen on February 24, 2014, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: CrossAnkle on February 24, 2014, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: hammen on February 24, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
Wins from Jon Mudlaff and/or Trent Gottsacker will be the difference. I am confident both will win, with Jon being most likely.

hmmm I wouldnt bet on that one, i guess anything is possible.  I think they have a better chance of winning 132 than 126 or 138. The 113 pound match is going be interesting as well kohn is tough.

I will actually bet on both.

You dont have a choice being a Random Lake Alum haha.

hammen

I have plenty of choices. These 2 just happen to be some of my favorites in WI high school wrestling.

CrossAnkle

Quote from: hammen on February 24, 2014, 08:14:33 PM
I have plenty of choices. These 2 just happen to be some of my favorites in WI high school wrestling.

I'm just playing giving you a hard time. Do you get into the room to roll around with these guys?

hammen

Sadly only a couple times a year. They're in good hands though.

aarons23

I'm with Hammen on the Mudlaff match. 
Big house"As part of my mental toughness routine ... I read the forum and try NOT to believe everything on here."

It's very strenuous! 


Opinions are not facts. Because two people differ in opinions doesn't make one of them wrong.

Gutwrench

         RL                    Coleman
106  Depies (HM) 2nd       Teteak  (HM)
113  Kohn  (#9) NP         Blanchard (#8) 4th
120  Depies (#2) 4th        Champagne (5-10 record)
126  Mudlaff (#8) 4th       Schall (#2) 6th
132  Stepneiwski (HM) NP Lansin (#8) 3rd
138  Gottsacker (#7) 4th   Margis (#4) 2nd Head to head Margis won 4-1
145  Behn  (#9)           Seewald (#2 at 152) 3rd
152  Kohn                  Lansin (HM at 145)
160  Vandenbush         Karban (#1) NP
170  Risse (#7)           A.Stodola (26-14 record)
182  Verbanac NP           H.Stodola (23-14 record)
195  Klein  (#8) 2nd          Nowak (18-13 record)
220  Lewis                  Pillath (#4) 4th
285  Anklam (#1) 1st        Salewski (18-14 record)

signifies State placement


Gutwrench

So theorectically........

RL performed better at state than Colemen with six wrestlers: 103, 120, 126, 182, 195, and 285.

Coleman performed better at state than RL with six wrestlers: 113, 132, 138, 145, 160, and 220.

Theorectically that leaves two weight classes, 152 and 170, as the deciding factor in the match.  I could see Coleman winning 152 and RL winning 170.

This is about as even as it can get.

CrossAnkle

RL                    Coleman
106  Depies (HM) 2nd       Teteak  (HM) 3-0
113  Kohn  (#9) NP         Blanchard (#8) 4th 3-4
120  Depies (#2) 4th        Champagne (5-10 record) 9-4
126  Mudlaff (#8) 4th       Schall (#2) 6th 9-7
132  Stepneiwski (HM) NP Lansin (#8) 3rd 9-10
138  Gottsacker (#7) 4th   Margis (#4) 2nd Head to head Margis won 4-1 9-13
145  Behn  (#9)           Seewald (#2 at 152) 3rd 9-19
152  Kohn                  Lansin (HM at 145) 9-22
160  Vandenbush         Karban (#1) NP 9-28
170  Risse (#7)           A.Stodola (26-14 record) 12-28
182  Verbanac NP           H.Stodola (23-14 record) 15-28
195  Klein  (#8) 2nd          Nowak (18-13 record) 21-28
220  Lewis                  Pillath (#4) 4th 21-34
285  Anklam (#1) 1st        Salewski (18-14 record) 27-34

If they wrestle straight up I give it to Coleman 34-27. Random Lake has to win a match from 126-138 to stay in this one. I think 106 will be real interesting if Depies gets a pin that would be huge. I know teteak didnt make it out of sectionals but he beat a few kids that placed last weekend. Should be real exciting, the fieldhouse is going to be rocking during this one.

hasbeen

Quote from: Gutwrench on March 06, 2014, 12:46:19 PM

Theorectically that leaves two weight classes, 152 and 170, as the deciding factor in the match. 

Normally you look at a few weights with 2 kids who didn't qualify for state as potential clinchers for you but it doesn't seem that way this time. Maybe Kohn could pull one out at 152. That would be huge. But I look at 3 weights - 113, 126, & 138 with what should be closely matched state qualifiers as the ones to watch. Right now everyone has Coleman winning all 3. Win 1 of those and limit bonus points in a couple of the others and RL wins.

CrossAnkle

Quote from: hasbeen on March 06, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: Gutwrench on March 06, 2014, 12:46:19 PM

Theorectically that leaves two weight classes, 152 and 170, as the deciding factor in the match. 

Normally you look at a few weights with 2 kids who didn't qualify for state as potential clinchers for you but it doesn't seem that way this time. Maybe Kohn could pull one out at 152. That would be huge. But I look at 3 weights - 113, 126, & 138 with what should be closely matched state qualifiers as the ones to watch. Right now everyone has Coleman winning all 3. Win 1 of those and limit bonus points in a couple of the others and RL wins.

That is usually the method for this type of matchup (limit the bonus points and win the toss ups) Schaal didnt have a great tournament last weekend, but just watching Mudlaff last week he doesnt have any type of upper hand in this one. I think 138 is really interesting, they have wrestled 3 times this year with Margis having won the last two. It gets harder to win every time should be a big one. I agree with 152 as well as 113, these kids all matchup different with each other you never know who will come out on top. My big question is who is going to bump up and get moved around.

Karl

I don't see either one of these two beating Spring Valley

CrossAnkle

Really I disagree with you on that. I think either of these teams can beat S/V. There not that unbeatable.

CLC FAN

Quote from: Karl on March 06, 2014, 03:40:03 PM
I don't see either one of these two beating Spring Valley

Well now you do I guess.  Congrats to Coleman.  We had the dual going the way we wanted, but not one of their kids backed down or gave up... they just kept getting after it, which is exactly how they won in the finals too. 

aarons23

The Coleman /Random dual was by far the besdue as l of the weekend. ..congrats to both teams.
Big house"As part of my mental toughness routine ... I read the forum and try NOT to believe everything on here."

It's very strenuous! 


Opinions are not facts. Because two people differ in opinions doesn't make one of them wrong.