InterMat Rankings (12/10/2013)

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MNbadger

#15
December 10, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
I agree.  Though it WAS a horrible loss Graff had, he should still be top six.  Actually if you are being tough about it, he hasn't defeated any ranked guys this year, right?
He should be ahead of Dijulius and Mango in my opinion, neither have any quality wins this season yet.

I have NO idea how T-shirt gets the respect he gets either. 

Steinhaus (#4) will destroy Lofthouse (#2) when they meet.

Schiller and Rutt should be #1-#2

To be honest, I think this time of year they just kind of randomly give guys recognition.
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harley

#16
December 11, 2013, 06:39:52 AM
Quote from: MNbadger on December 10, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
I agree.  Though it WAS a horrible loss Graff had, he should still be top six.  Actually if you are being tough about it, he hasn't defeated any ranked guys this year, right?
He should be ahead of Dijulius and Mango in my opinion, neither have any quality wins this season yet.

I have NO idea how T-shirt gets the respect he gets either. 

Steinhaus (#4) will destroy Lofthouse (#2) when they meet.

Schiller and Rutt should be #1-#2

To be honest, I think this time of year they just kind of randomly give guys recognition.

Dijulius beat Colon, the same Colon that beat Graff so I would say that was a quality win. He also has wins over #9 Brewer and #17 Bruno

Wisconsin Wrestling Fan

#17
December 15, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
Some of the rankings are a joke right now.  They are not taking into account who is wrestling at home in some of these duals - let's see how some of these matchups play out at tournaments like Midlands.  The Badgers beating Illinois was not that big of an upset if you look at the matchups. I think the Badgers can use the polls to fuel their fire the rest of the year.

By the way, the only poll that ranks the Top 33 at each weight, 8 of the 10 Badgers are ranked - www.wrestlingreport.com. 

On a side note, I see # 1 Logan Stieber just lost to #8 Retherford - are they going to drop Stieber to #8 in the country at 141 now ? 

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leg turk

#18
December 16, 2013, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 15, 2013, 09:32:39 PM


On a side note, I see # 1 Logan Stieber just lost to #8 Retherford - are they going to drop Stieber to #8 in the country at 141 now ? 



I don't know, did he lose 6-0 ?

npope

#19
December 16, 2013, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: leg turk on December 16, 2013, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 15, 2013, 09:32:39 PM


On a side note, I see # 1 Logan Stieber just lost to #8 Retherford - are they going to drop Stieber to #8 in the country at 141 now ? 



I don't know, did he lose 6-0 ?
Very wry, leg turk  ;)
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Wisconsin Wrestling Fan

#20
December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM Last Edit: December 16, 2013, 09:23:49 AM by Wisconsin Wrestling Fan
I'll take Graff over Colon in the rematch, or re-matches.

By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?

The Seeding Meeting for 133 at the Midlands could be interesting !!

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leg turk

#21
December 16, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM


By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?




No, but he lost to a redshirt freshman last year. (Conaway)

stbird

#22
December 16, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
That was ugly!  Thanks for reminding me!

Quote from: leg turk on December 16, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM


By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?




No, but he lost to a redshirt freshman last year. (Conaway)

badgerjohn

#23
December 16, 2013, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: leg turk on December 16, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM


By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?




No, but he lost to a redshirt freshman last year. (Conaway)
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
I'll take Graff over Colon in the rematch, or re-matches.

By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?

The Seeding Meeting for 133 at the Midlands could be interesting !!


Quote from: leg turk on December 16, 2013, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 15, 2013, 09:32:39 PM


On a side note, I see # 1 Logan Stieber just lost to #8 Retherford - are they going to drop Stieber to #8 in the country at 141 now ? 



I don't know, did he lose 6-0 ?
Quote from: stbird on December 16, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
That was ugly!  Thanks for reminding me!

Quote from: leg turk on December 16, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on December 16, 2013, 09:21:06 AM


By the way, did Graff lose to an actual Freshman like Stieber did?




No, but he lost to a redshirt freshman last year. (Conaway)



I have a really good memory  ;D , it's just that sometimes it's a little short  :-\ .   Can somebody remember for me where Graff placed at NCAAs last three times he participated    ;)
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stbird

#24
December 16, 2013, 10:36:10 AM
5-5-3

npope

#25
December 16, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
The thing for all fans to remember is that no one is superman - on any given day....

Fans have a tendency to crown their kings a bit prematurely, e.g. see some of the forum posters from last year and what they were saying about our own JT. Bottom line is that whoever you are, you still have to strap it on and earn it each time you put it on the line.
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Nat Pope

whatever

#26
December 16, 2013, 12:20:09 PM
Funny that you reference JT and the bottom line..... ;)
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badgerjohn

#27
December 21, 2013, 07:32:30 AM
Looks like we got a new #8   ;)

Results:
133: Nick Soto (C) dec. #1 Ryan Mango (S), 15-8

http://www.intermatwrestle.com/articles/12440
"Common sense rarely survives an encounter with lawyers."  DrSnide 12/28/11

npope

#28
December 21, 2013, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: badgerjohn on December 21, 2013, 07:32:30 AM
Looks like we got a new #8   ;)

Results:
133: Nick Soto (C) dec. #1 Ryan Mango (S), 15-8

http://www.intermatwrestle.com/articles/12440

After the Midlands I think things will settle down once again at 133 - let some of the top guys go head to head. That said, one things get as messy as 133 is getting the guys doing the ratings will simply have to fall back on their gut feelings and I think that they all feel as though Ramos will be in the finals again this year. Who he will be facing in that match is the real question.
Merely having an opinion doesn't necessarily make it a good one

Nat Pope

Manty77

#29
December 21, 2013, 09:50:55 AM
Quote from: badgerjohn on December 21, 2013, 07:32:30 AM
Looks like we got a new #8   ;)

Results:
133: Nick Soto (C) dec. #1 Ryan Mango (S), 15-8

http://www.intermatwrestle.com/articles/12440
Let's see, Graff was #2 when he lost to Colon and then Graff subsequently fell all the way down to #8.  Now we have the #1 losing to an unranked guy.  My guess is he'll fall just a few spots.  I hate rankings.
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