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Offline The Twisted Moose

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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2013, 01:47:15 AM »
that was a very well written and thoughtful response. 

i'm only taking issue with one small part; the end.  by saying they left for a "better opportunity" (however it's defined) is also conjecture.  I think the only thing we can agree on is the fact that those coaches are no longer there.

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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2013, 12:34:01 PM »
Years ago, I left a career in manufacturing to seek a career in education.  My buddies that stayed behind made a lot more money than I did, but I saw teaching as a better opportunity to make a positive difference in the world and live where I wanted to live.  I took a job as a night custodian at a school, to accommodate my college schedule.  Upon graduating, I took a teaching job hundreds of miles away, despite the fact that it paid less than my custodial salary.  Does my decision to leave that district for an opportunity that better matched my goals, reflect negatively on its leaders?  Absolutely not!  My point is that people set their own goals and ideals; then act accordingly.  Assigning our own agendas and assumptions to their decisions is illogical, inaccurate, and misguided, IMO.  Promoting unfounded, negative assumptions about the leaders they leave behind, as they pursue their goals and dreams, and blaming those leaders for the decisions, is nothing short of unfair.  Furthermore, to cast a negative public light on a program and organization, by repeatedly promoting gossip motivated by our own personal bias, is the epitome of selfishness. 
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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2013, 12:45:58 PM »
Years ago, I left a career in manufacturing to seek a career in education.  My buddies that stayed behind made a lot more money than I did, but I saw teaching as a better opportunity to make a positive difference in the world and live where I wanted to live.  I took a job as a night custodian at a school, to accommodate my college schedule.  Upon graduating, I took a teaching job hundreds of miles away, despite the fact that it paid less than my custodial salary.  Does my decision to leave that district for an opportunity that better matched my goals, reflect negatively on its leaders?  Absolutely not!  My point is that people set their own goals and ideals; then act accordingly.  Assigning our own agendas and assumptions to their decisions is illogical, inaccurate, and misguided, IMO.  Promoting unfounded, negative assumptions about the leaders they leave behind, as they pursue their goals and dreams, and blaming those leaders for the decisions, is nothing short of unfair.  Furthermore, to cast a negative public light on a program and organization, by repeatedly promoting gossip motivated by our own personal bias, is the epitome of selfishness. 

Some could argue that not everything is "unfounded". At least one former wrestler was straight up lied to during a recruiting visit and Donny s seperation wasn't amicable and to say he left for a "better opportunity" is ridiculous.
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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2013, 12:59:56 PM »
Years ago, I left a career in manufacturing to seek a career in education.  My buddies that stayed behind made a lot more money than I did, but I saw teaching as a better opportunity to make a positive difference in the world and live where I wanted to live.  I took a job as a night custodian at a school, to accommodate my college schedule.  Upon graduating, I took a teaching job hundreds of miles away, despite the fact that it paid less than my custodial salary.  Does my decision to leave that district for an opportunity that better matched my goals, reflect negatively on its leaders?  Absolutely not!  My point is that people set their own goals and ideals; then act accordingly.  Assigning our own agendas and assumptions to their decisions is illogical, inaccurate, and misguided, IMO.  Promoting unfounded, negative assumptions about the leaders they leave behind, as they pursue their goals and dreams, and blaming those leaders for the decisions, is nothing short of unfair.  Furthermore, to cast a negative public light on a program and organization, by repeatedly promoting gossip motivated by our own personal bias, is the epitome of selfishness. 

Some could argue that not everything is "unfounded". At least one former wrestler was straight up lied to during a recruiting visit and Donny s seperation wasn't amicable and to say he left for a "better opportunity" is ridiculous.

What constitutes a "better opportunity" is up to the discretion of the person making the decision to go elsewhere.  At any rate, what's done is done.  Continually beating this same dead horse does nothing to advance the program, but does much to harm its ability to learn from mistakes and move forward in pursuit of better results.
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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2013, 01:28:31 PM »
Like I said, we can only agree on the fact that those coaches are no longer part of the program.

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Re: Could not have said it better....
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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2013, 01:31:49 PM »
Years ago, I left a career in manufacturing to seek a career in education.  My buddies that stayed behind made a lot more money than I did, but I saw teaching as a better opportunity to make a positive difference in the world and live where I wanted to live.  I took a job as a night custodian at a school, to accommodate my college schedule.  Upon graduating, I took a teaching job hundreds of miles away, despite the fact that it paid less than my custodial salary.  Does my decision to leave that district for an opportunity that better matched my goals, reflect negatively on its leaders?  Absolutely not!  My point is that people set their own goals and ideals; then act accordingly.  Assigning our own agendas and assumptions to their decisions is illogical, inaccurate, and misguided, IMO.  Promoting unfounded, negative assumptions about the leaders they leave behind, as they pursue their goals and dreams, and blaming those leaders for the decisions, is nothing short of unfair.  Furthermore, to cast a negative public light on a program and organization, by repeatedly promoting gossip motivated by our own personal bias, is the epitome of selfishness. 

Some could argue that not everything is "unfounded". At least one former wrestler was straight up lied to during a recruiting visit and Donny s seperation wasn't amicable and to say he left for a "better opportunity" is ridiculous.

I would argue that leaving for a $35,000/yr raise for doing basically the same thing...is certainly a "better opportunity"

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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2013, 01:59:40 PM »
Years ago, I left a career in manufacturing to seek a career in education.  My buddies that stayed behind made a lot more money than I did, but I saw teaching as a better opportunity to make a positive difference in the world and live where I wanted to live.  I took a job as a night custodian at a school, to accommodate my college schedule.  Upon graduating, I took a teaching job hundreds of miles away, despite the fact that it paid less than my custodial salary.  Does my decision to leave that district for an opportunity that better matched my goals, reflect negatively on its leaders?  Absolutely not!  My point is that people set their own goals and ideals; then act accordingly.  Assigning our own agendas and assumptions to their decisions is illogical, inaccurate, and misguided, IMO.  Promoting unfounded, negative assumptions about the leaders they leave behind, as they pursue their goals and dreams, and blaming those leaders for the decisions, is nothing short of unfair.  Furthermore, to cast a negative public light on a program and organization, by repeatedly promoting gossip motivated by our own personal bias, is the epitome of selfishness. 

Some could argue that not everything is "unfounded". At least one former wrestler was straight up lied to during a recruiting visit and Donny s seperation wasn't amicable and to say he left for a "better opportunity" is ridiculous.

I would argue that leaving for a $35,000/yr raise for doing basically the same thing...is certainly a "better opportunity"

Absolutely.  It should also be noted how many of these guys left for locations at which they have personal connections.  Many people return to communities where relatives and friends are more accessible, regardless of other factors. 
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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2013, 02:05:24 PM »
Absolutely.  It should also be noted how many of these guys left for locations at which they have personal connections.  Many people return to communities where relatives and friends are more accessible, regardless of other factors.  
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well, since you just can't leave it at "they're not here any longer" please note which guys left for what locations and the personal connections that they had/have there.


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Re: Could not have said it better....
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2013, 02:05:24 PM »