Us vs. Rankwrestlers.com

Started by rankingcommittee, February 20, 2020, 03:29:41 PM

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rankingcommittee

We have shared this once in the past, but wanted to check one more time what our rankings look like compared to this website:


There is a website called www.rankwrestlers.com (which is a pay for service) that has wrestling rankings that takes data purely from matches in Trackwrestling.  So, as we show you this data, know that when we looked at it, there were many wrestlers that didn't have matches captured because A) they weren't entered or B)It flat ouy looks like they just didn't pull in for some reason. Our committee does not have this sophisticated type of system in terms of spitting out a rank number, but we essentially do the same thing by "hand," so to speak.   

First off..this information is from their website and how they get their calculations:

RankWrestlers uses the data delivered by coaches to TrackWrestling's season results. The system is not fool-proof; if you see a mistake, please work through your coach to correct the information on TrackWrestling. We do not make manual adjustments on our system, as we feel that it is important to have the correct information in the TrackWrestling database.  Obviously not all wins / losses are equal, so just comparing a wrestler's win percentage does not give an accurate indication of their performance. RankWrestlers considers multiple factors when ranking the wrestlers. All wins and losses are adjusted according to the type of win and the quality of the opponent. The average of the three highest adjusted win percentages of opponents that the wrestler defeated is listed under the column "3 best." A column title "H2H" makes head-to-head adjustments for matches between closely ranked opponents. If a lower ranked wrestler that is within ten percent in the total ranking defeats a higher-ranked wrestler, then the higher-ranked wrestler's ranking is reduced by half the difference and the lower ranked wrestler is raised by half the difference to move the winner of the contest in front of the loser. It is possible to have multiple head-to-head adjustments, though, so a different head-to-head adjustment could possibly leave the losing wrestler in front of the winning wrestler from an earlier adjustment.

The adjusted win percentage and top 3 wins are averaged, and the head-to-head adjustments are applied to determine the total ranking. The ranking will make the biggest improvement when a wrestler defeats tougher opponents, and it will drop more with losses to opponents with lower win percentages. A wrestler's ranking will also change as opponents wrestle more matches, because the opponent's adjusted win percentage is continuously updated throughout the entire season (as their record becomes more indicative of their strength), and the new opponent win percentages are applied to the wrestler's earlier wins / losses.

So, with that being said, we took a look at their rankings and compared it to ours, just to see where everything panned out.  To the data ;D  The headings don't line up perfectly, so we apologize about that   

Key:WI=Our rankings RW=RankWrestler

D3

106
RW   WI      
1   1   Brayden Sonnentag   Cadott
2   2   Luke Thaemert   St. Croix Falls
4   3   Nolan McKittrick   Royall
3   4   Lucas Sullivan   Mineral Point
6   5   Robert 'Tate' Flege   La Crosse Aquinas

113
RW   WI      
1   1   Tanner Gerber   Cameron
2   2   Remington Bontreger   Lancaster
6   3   Troy Dolphin   Kenosha Christian Life
3   4   Dominic Leintz   Clear Lake
4   5   Kevin Klemm   Manawa

120
RW   WI      
1   1   Carter Greening   Weyauwega-Fremont
2   2   Cash Stewart   Poynette
3   3   Josiah Berg   Boyceville
4   4   Luke Blair    Fennimore
7   5   Colten Klemm   Manawa

126
RW   WI      
1   1   Gavin Drexler   Stratford
2   2   Javis Pinter    Kenosha Christian Life
3   3   Brody Lee   Fennimore
5   4   Will Bieber   Coleman
4   5   Noah Krahenbuhl   Pecatonica/Argyle

132
RW   WI      
1   1   Max Schwabe   Stratford
4   2   Alex Birchman   Fennimore
2   3   Cael Erickson   Cedar Grove-Belgium
6   4   Tristan Hammen   Random Lake
3   5   Joseph Penchi    La Crosse Aquinas

138
RW   WI         
5   1   Aidan Nutter   Fennimore   12
2   2   Karson Casper   Coleman   10
3   3   Aiden Brosinski   De Soto   10
4   4   Dylan Baird   Auburndale   12
6   5   Max Sokolski   Bonduel   11
1   6   Gunnar Hamre   Poynette   9

145
RW   WI         
1   1   Kole Marko   St. Croix Falls   10
3   2   Sam Kuchta   Coleman   12
2   3   Garnett Stebane   Brillion   10
4   4   Hunter Bruhn   Phillips   12
5   5   Konner Stuttgen   Stratford   9

152
RW   WI      
1   1   Aiden Vandenbush   Random Lake
6   2   Korben Brown   Parkview
3   3   Grant Englebert   Southern Door
9   4   Jacob Heiden   Stratford
5   5   Nelson Wahl   Cadott


160
RW   WI      
3   1   Devin Dennee   Stratford
2   2   Tyler Blanchard   Coleman
1   3   Nolan Springer   Mineral Point
6   4   Tyler Lovejoy   Laconia
7   5   Will Peters   Chetek-Weyerhaeuser/Prairie Farm

170
RW   WI      
1   1   Brady Spaeth   Cadott
3   2   Connor Vatland   Westby
4   3   Tyler Hach   Riverdale
6   4   Dylan Horstmeyer   Marshall
5   5   Brandon Zamorano   Horicon


182
RW   WI      
1   1   Tretten Joles   Boyceville
2   2   John Bieber   Coleman
3   3   Logan Shramek   Blair-Taylor
4   4   Will Ahnen   Fennimore
5   5   Mason Hughes   Mineral Point

195
RW   WI      
1   1   Trevor Dennee   Stratford
2   2   Shamus McLain   Coleman
4   3   Connor Westfall   Athens
3   4   Isaac Banker   Bonduel
9   5   Brock Sanger   Weyauwega-Fremont

220
RW   WI      
1   1   Ethan Heil   Edgar
2   2   Cole Ebert   Reedsville
5   3   Aaron Ragels   Fennimore
3   4   Caden Stratka   Lancaster
13   5   Nathan Pelke   Mondovi

285
RW   WI      
1   1   Tanner Gaffey   St. Croix Falls
2   2   Bryce Friday   Markesan
5   3   Spencer Karban   Coleman
3   4   Wade Stanger   Ladysmith
4   5   Parker Renken   Chequamegon
 

NoFooForU

D1 160
RW   WI     
1   1   Keegan O'Toole   Arrowhead
8   2   Colman Karl   Elkhorn
5   3   Peter Hansen   Hudson
12   4   Evan Danowski   Waterford
9   5   Lucas Benn   Mukwonago

Anyone dive into why/how these are so far off?  Most of the other D1 weights are pretty close.  you might have one or two different kids in the top 5.  This weight stood out the most.

NoFooForU

oh, by the way.... THANK YOU!  Very interesting to see this information.

babywhales

Assumptions of the model should always be understood to frame the result.  Like one of my Professors used to say, "No model is accurate, but most are useful if you understand the assumptions"

From their web page they RW states:

Obviously not all wins / losses are equal, so just comparing a wrestler's win percentage does not give an accurate indication of their performance. RankWrestlers considers multiple factors when ranking the wrestlers. All wins and losses are adjusted according to the type of win and the quality of the opponent. The average of the three highest adjusted win percentages of opponents that the wrestler defeated is listed under the column "3 best." A column title "H2H" makes head-to-head adjustments for matches between closely ranked opponents. If a lower ranked wrestler that is within ten percent in the total ranking defeats a higher-ranked wrestler, then the higher-ranked wrestler's ranking is reduced by half the difference and the lower ranked wrestler is raised by half the difference to move the winner of the contest in front of the loser. It is possible to have multiple head-to-head adjustments, though, so a different head-to-head adjustment could possibly leave the losing wrestler in front of the winning wrestler from an earlier adjustment.

The adjusted win percentage and top 3 wins are averaged, and the head-to-head adjustments are applied to determine the total ranking. The ranking will make the biggest improvement when a wrestler defeats tougher opponents, and it will drop more with losses to opponents with lower win percentages. A wrestler's ranking will also change as opponents wrestle more matches, because the opponent's adjusted win percentage is continuously updated throughout the entire season (as their record becomes more indicative of their strength), and the new opponent win percentages are applied to the wrestler's earlier wins / losses.


Johnnyflash

Is there a comparison for the girls rankings?