Tomorrow we will be discussing the contract extension for Coach Bono. Tune in live at 10am on rokfin or facebook to hear our thoughts.
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Hard to believe this would even be a topic. Wisconsin had AA talent at half the weight classes this year. Do you not value Seth Gross? How many better light weight coaches are out there?
A much better topic would be wrestlers with Wisconsin ties wresting in Vegas this weekend.
Quote from: Numbers on April 25, 2023, 08:55:31 PMHard to believe this would even be a topic. Wisconsin had AA talent at half the weight classes this year. Do you not value Seth Gross? How many better light weight coaches are out there?
A much better topic would be wrestlers with Wisconsin ties wresting in Vegas this weekend.
They previewed the US Open today
Should be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
Quote from: Numbers on April 25, 2023, 08:55:31 PMHard to believe this would even be a topic. Wisconsin had AA talent at half the weight classes this year. Do you not value Seth Gross? How many better light weight coaches are out there?
A much better topic would be wrestlers with Wisconsin ties wresting in Vegas this weekend.
Seth is an outstanding person and role model, had a unique style that was successful for him. Not too sure lightweights have had measureable developement under his time there.
Quote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Quote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Maybe you don't quite understand that Bono's situation is much different in where he is making twice what Davis made as a salary and is being paid to do a job. Rashka was a student likely on little to no money. Not the same at all!
Quote from: The Legend on April 27, 2023, 09:05:12 AMQuote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Maybe you don't quite understand that Bono's situation is much different in where he is making twice what Davis made as a salary and is being paid to do a job. Rashka was a student likely on little to no money. Not the same at all!
I think you are missing my point. It is about integrity, taking pride in your work and trying to reach your goals. Now if you want to talk about money where does Bono's salary compare to Sanderson, Brands, Ryan, Manning, etc etc. Not interested in bringing money into the equation, its about what is inside the person
No, the topic is contract extension this post is all about money. Are you trolling?
Quote from: The Legend on April 27, 2023, 09:31:12 AMNo, the topic is contract extension this post is all about money. Are you trolling?
I should say it's at least in part about money the other is results. Not what is inside the person. If that were the case Barry Davis would still be the head coach!
This article is a great objective, numerical look at this years NCAA performance, with links to past years. Includes comparisons by state, geopgraphical areas, and alot more.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10778346-2023-ncaa-championships-by-the-numbers
The last graphic in the article is a "heat graphic" of NCAA points by athletes hometown. Clearly Bono inability to recruit in not only WI, but MN and IA is a huge knock to the program.
Quote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Being critical of performance is crucial for any sort of progression towards a goal. Coming up short is something that happens, no shame in that. The topic of discussion was if we were happy to see a five year contract extension. After evaluating the results the Badgers have had under Bono I am not pumped about it. Any job regardless of if you are a coach or any other professions you get evaluated on your performance. I do not think I came across as disrespectful in any manner.
Bono cant recruit, period. How many blue chip WI recruits has he lost? Do we need to list all of them? He may be a nice guy, but his ego is huge and he's done nothing in five years here. If your satisfied with second to last place in the Big Ten lets sign him for another 10 years.
Quote from: JacobRaschka on April 27, 2023, 11:07:07 AMQuote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Being critical of performance is crucial for any sort of progression towards a goal. Coming up short is something that happens, no shame in that. The topic of discussion was if we were happy to see a five year contract extension. After evaluating the results the Badgers have had under Bono I am not pumped about it. Any job regardless of if you are a coach or any other professions you get evaluated on your performance. I do not think I came across as disrespectful in any manner.
A) He did not get a five year extension, you said it several times in the podcast and I was thinking maybe you just misspoke but seeing it in writing, you clearly don't understand what transpired. Bono received a ONE year extension, just like he did last year, and the year before that.
B) you state UW has no NIL money, what's your source?
C) askren seemed open to talking? He stated I will be here longer than Bono. I hope you are right but I'm not sure about that based on conversations with Ben, I'm not sure though I do think in a year and a half there could be an opener.
Quote from: bigoil on April 27, 2023, 01:23:41 PMQuote from: JacobRaschka on April 27, 2023, 11:07:07 AMQuote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
Being critical of performance is crucial for any sort of progression towards a goal. Coming up short is something that happens, no shame in that. The topic of discussion was if we were happy to see a five year contract extension. After evaluating the results the Badgers have had under Bono I am not pumped about it. Any job regardless of if you are a coach or any other professions you get evaluated on your performance. I do not think I came across as disrespectful in any manner.
A) He did not get a five year extension, you said it several times in the podcast and I was thinking maybe you just misspoke but seeing it in writing, you clearly don't understand what transpired. Bono received a ONE year extension, just like he did last year, and the year before that.
B) you state UW has no NIL money, what's your source?
C) askren seemed open to talking? He stated I will be here longer than Bono. I hope you are right but I'm not sure about that based on conversations with Ben, I'm not sure though I do think in a year and a half there could be an opener.
A. I suppose it is possible that we misunderstood the extension, however I provided a link to the badgers instagram that clearly says "contract extended 2028". https://www.instagram.com/p/CrWbWPfuSon/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
B. Saying UW has no NIL is not based on a source it is a response to the forum and one of the comments in the chat during the podcast where individuals are saying they need NIL money or a business partner for this. I don't know if they have a none, a little or a lot of NIL money but it has been a topic from some that they need it to compete with others.
C. Ben did say he was open to talking on the podcast and many other times before publicly. I can't and won't speak for Ben but I'm guessing his statement about being here longer has a lot to do with him living/growing up in Wisconsin with no intentions of leaving or closing his club. Did Ben tell you something else in conversations? Also, what did you mean by "in a year in a half could be an opener"? My small brain struggled with that one.
Coach Bono like most UW coaches are on a perpetual 5 year deal and each spring they add one year. Google extension 2022. Agree the headline is wonky but in 2022 he was extended to 2027, thus the 2028.
I may have misheard you or Jacob but I thought I heard UW has none.
Ben and I had a private convo and I'll keep it at that. I hope you are right that he would come to the table but I thought he mentioned Coach Reader came to his house last year. I also believe some of Ben's concerns may be addressed over that time period I stated.
Quote from: bigoil on April 27, 2023, 03:20:41 PMCoach Bono like most UW coaches are on a perpetual 5 year deal and each spring they add one year. Google extension 2022. Agree the headline is wonky but in 2022 he was extended to 2027, thus the 2028.
I may have misheard you or Jacob but I thought I heard UW has none.
Ben and I had a private convo and I'll keep it at that. I hope you are right that he would come to the table but I thought he mentioned Coach Reader came to his house last year. I also believe some of Ben's concerns may be addressed over that time period I stated.
Okay I understand, thank you. I'm chalking that up to a technicality because his contract is still 5 years then.
He did talk about meeting with Reader, but I believe as I stated on the pod is for the that specific relationship to be fixed it has to be done between the two, not others.
At minimum we know the asst. coach cared about repairing the relationship and was unsuccessful as Ben was not satisfied with assurances given.
If this was important as it seems to be to the future of the program and Wisconsin wrestling in general, I would think the head coach would be the one who would initiate contact or follow up on it. Maybe he did try but with the lack of communication By one side about this subject, the vibes I get is the towel has been thrown in.
Quote from: wrestle03 on April 27, 2023, 11:10:58 AMBono cant recruit, period. How many blue chip WI recruits has he lost? Do we need to list all of them? He may be a nice guy, but his ego is huge and he's done nothing in five years here. If your satisfied with second to last place in the Big Ten lets sign him for another 10 years.
Im not so sure that "he cant recruit" is justified. He landed a few nice recruits just not local. Prior coach let quite a few get away too. It does trouble me he hasnt landed more quality recruits from Wisconsin and surrounding states.
I was excited when he was hired as he was one I hoping for. I guess I bought into the motivational speeches at the beginning but my hopes along with my support have slightly faded, but am still somewhat hopeful. This AWA ordeal has me wondering if his complete best interests are with total state of Wisconsin wrestling like he has said on many occasions. He has done good with youth clubs. Ben's statement about the lack of positive experiences by wrestlers in the program is also troubling. Not sure if it is totally true, but all I have to go on. Lack of a legit RTC is not helping recruit as blue chippers want training partners. Ben said they dont discourage Wisconsin kids from looking at UW, that they hear it from kids in the program. This is quite troubling, if true. Hindsight is 20-20, but I think with the AWA site and RTC coach, the head coach "looked a gift horse in the mouth".
He has raised excitement within the youth clubs and attendance shows that, but am wondering if it is largely do to the free admissions. Regardless it is something not done before and is appreciated.
Ben had stated something to the effect of being childish or stubbornness on both sides and acknowledged the fact that is not healthy for Wisconsin wrestling as a whole.
Its time that this issue is put to bed. Maybe a couple of the contributing supporters on here can help facilitate a meeting and help extend the olive branch since there seems to be some unknown obstacle.
Quote from: wrestle03 on April 27, 2023, 11:10:58 AMBono cant recruit, period. How many blue chip WI recruits has he lost? Do we need to list all of them? He may be a nice guy, but his ego is huge and he's done nothing in five years here. If your satisfied with second to last place in the Big Ten lets sign him for another 10 years.
Did we already forget about last year, the 21-22 season???
UW finished 12-2 overall and 6-2 in the conference good for 4th place beating 6 ranked team. Does he deserve any credit for that or are we only posting negative things?
Yes, Chris Bono deserved a contract extension.
Quote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
We're talking about the HC at a D1 Athletic program. I think a LOT of what Badgerone says about athletes is tacky, classless and out of bounds, but I think this is a perfectly reasonable topic.
My answer would be...no, but they give them to everyone and they're eating how many millions on Chryst?
Bono has to show something and it can't just be Rowley and some of our top recruits getting poached.
Love that Liegal is coming to UW. Think he could have had a really nice career at D1 had he chosen to come straight from HS, but that's 1 year.
Estrada looks like a stud.
You have "the Askren problem." Or AWA or whatever. It's worth debating if he needs to be extended through '28 RIGHT NOW and if maybe you should try and poach a certain coach from Racine(Kenosha?...wherever Parkside is exactly).
It's not like it's anyone who's a decision maker asking the question. This is the type of stuff that makes podcasts interesting. This is the type of content I'd pay to listen to...if it was like the Athletic(20-30 a month is too much for me).
Quote from: Vir Fortis on April 28, 2023, 04:17:25 PMQuote from: novice wrestler on April 27, 2023, 08:22:27 AMQuote from: Coach V on April 26, 2023, 07:37:10 AMShould be a short podcast, maybe shortest ever..... Yes, podcast over. ;D
I heard a portion of Mr Raschka's podcast and not sure of his point.
Jacob, you have a history in this sport and we will assume you had aspirations and goals while at Missouri. I assume you worked hard, made sacrifices and tough decisions. Did everything you could to succeed in trying to be an AA and maybe even a National Champion, like your mentor. Unfortunately you did not reach those goals.
Coach Bono has lofty goals and aspirations for the UW wrestling program and I assume he wishes he reached those goals by now. No different than you. Sometimes things don't go as hoped, kinda the nature of competitive athletics.
Maybe you could afford the same respect to him that you are given when you came up short of your goals? Probably wishful thinking but I think many folks would just would like to see some humility in this situation
We're talking about the HC at a D1 Athletic program. I think a LOT of what Badgerone says about athletes is tacky, classless and out of bounds, but I think this is a perfectly reasonable topic.
My answer would be...no, but they give them to everyone and they're eating how many millions on Chryst?
Bono has to show something and it can't just be Rowley and some of our top recruits getting poached.
Love that Liegal is coming to UW. Think he could have had a really nice career at D1 had he chosen to come straight from HS, but that's 1 year.
Estrada looks like a stud.
You have "the Askren problem." Or AWA or whatever. It's worth debating if he needs to be extended through '28 RIGHT NOW and if maybe you should try and poach a certain coach from Racine(Kenosha?...wherever Parkside is exactly).
It's not like it's anyone who's a decision maker asking the question. This is the type of stuff that makes podcasts interesting. This is the type of content I'd pay to listen to...if it was like the Athletic(20-30 a month is too much for me).
ViraFortis, you are the one making personal attacks and so your comments would apply to you. Do a little self examination and don't get bent out of shape if someone questions how "great" the recruits are as I've done and will continue to do as I share my candid thoughts rather than pile on with some pavlovian response after the Bono "Great Day to be a Baders" applause sign comes on. Classless and out of bonds, ok whatever, you say, but, you are being just a tool!
I agree that calling this a five-year extension is misleading. They aren't committing to him for 5 years. Only thing that matters for that purpose is the buyout commitment. As has been mentioned above, this is standard practice for university coaches. Each spring coaches are given that 5th year added on, primarily so they can tell kids who might be there for five years that they will be their coach for the duration. A lame duck coach have a inappropriate term3 of a time recruiting.
"Bono received a ONE year extension, just like he did last year, and the year before that."
Coaches are given one-year extensions as a matter of course, because unless you are unhappy with their performance, you give extensions to let high school athletes know the same coach is going to be there for a while.