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Title: Iowa dual
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 17, 2023, 01:28:27 PM
The time has been set for the Iowa dual (2pm central). It will be on Big Ten network but hopefully we can have as many Badger fans as possible in the Field House.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 17, 2023, 10:18:02 PM
Register your Youth Team for UW Badger Youth Team Day

The UW Badger Wrestling Team will host 2023 Youth Team Day versus Iowa on Sunday, January 22, 2023.
Youth Teams may Request FREE ADMISSION to the Sunday, January 22 Dual Meet vs Iowa by completing the request form you may download HERE:
https://wiwrestling.com/uw-badger-youth-team-day-sunday-january-22-2023/

The Sunday, January 22 dual begins at 2:00PM in the UW Fieldhouse.

Download and complete the form and email a copy to nfredrich@athletics.wisc.edu by Friday, January 19th at 3:00pm if you are interested in attending. Registration will be confirmed by the UW Athletics Marketing staff once received. Requests are taken on a first-come first-served basis.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: uwgrappler on January 19, 2023, 08:08:51 AM
Going to the dual and I'm wondering if there is a bar that Badger wrestling fans typically go to before duals?  Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: neutral on January 19, 2023, 08:40:56 AM
Lucky's - 1313 Regent Street

Wish it were an evening dual ... H.S. Regionals Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 19, 2023, 11:25:47 AM
Hi neutral,
Just a heads up.

This dual ('Iowa dual') and Youth Day is Sunday, January 22, 2023 versus Iowa.

WIAA Regionals are in February on Saturday, February 11. UW Wrestles Minnesota that day at 1:00pm with the Raffle to follow at Lucky's 1313

The Badger Raffle is after the Minnesota dual at Lucky's 1313 / 1313 Regent St. Madison, Wisconsin
Raffle Info: https://www.wisconsinrtc.com/raffle
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 19, 2023, 11:32:01 AM
Quote from: uwgrappler on January 19, 2023, 08:08:51 AMGoing to the dual and I'm wondering if there is a bar that Badger wrestling fans typically go to before duals?  Any help is appreciated.

Hi uwgrappler,
Prior to home dual meets, many people gather at Sconnie Bar on Regent St., a short walk to the UW Fieldhouse.
Sconnie Bar | 1421 Regent St., Madison, WI 53711
info@sconniebar.com | (608) 819-8610
https://sconniebar.com/
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: uwgrappler on January 19, 2023, 02:39:03 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: BuckyMatt on January 19, 2023, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: uwgrappler on January 19, 2023, 08:08:51 AMGoing to the dual and I'm wondering if there is a bar that Badger wrestling fans typically go to before duals?  Any help is appreciated.

As Tom said, Sconnie Bar! Close, good food, and tons of wrestling fans before and after! Get there early though, it's gonna fill up for Iowa!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: bigoil on January 19, 2023, 06:34:32 PM
Sconnies also gives back to the WRTC!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: bud on January 20, 2023, 09:34:56 AM
Shot out to Sconnies as well!!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 22, 2023, 10:48:28 AM
Should be a big crowd today - let's make some noise!

Let's Go Badgers!

Let's Go Badgers!

Let's Go Badgers!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: crossface21 on January 22, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Attendance is 5,056
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: crossface21 on January 22, 2023, 03:04:14 PM
Per Iowa's Twitter account, no Brands at 174 and no Warner at 197 today.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: bigoil on January 22, 2023, 04:56:29 PM
Wow what a match. Tyler Dow may have caused an earthquake in Madison. Suplex!!!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Ghetto on January 22, 2023, 05:32:10 PM
Really fun dual today. Don't care that Iowa didn't roll out their starters at 174 and 197.

Barnett putting Lee On his back for a second was awesome. Most 125s don't really look interested to wrestle him.

Model had a really nice shot and was so close to a takedown. That was the match right there.

If Amos would have somehow been able to pull off that cradle we'd be looking at a new roof for the field house.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 22, 2023, 05:39:59 PM
Crazy environment today. Never seen anything like it for Badger wrestling. Going to have to move to the Kohl Center next time Iowa is in town. Not enough concessions, bathrooms or parking for 5K fans.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: wrestlemania on January 22, 2023, 05:41:10 PM
Iowa's Twitter account: no Brands at 174 and no Warner at 197 today.

Interesting they didn't think they needed them, especially at 197 after Dow's pin. Dang near lost and even still after 10 matches it WAS A TIE! Best showing against Iowa in a long time.

I've been critical of the program but you've got to praise what happened today. New home attendance record and they got to see what a competitive, fiercely fought Division I college dual meet can be like and how exciting it can be. Dow has just been awesome this week. Talk about stepping up. That's what fans wanted to see from UW wrestlers beyond just the top guys. If they had this kind of energy they would have won Midlands and beat Illinois. In my book Dow's set at 184.

Is there something wrong with Barnett i.e. injury or illness? Appreciate him trying to gut his way through it but he may need some time off
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: npope on January 22, 2023, 05:54:36 PM
Will nobody share a final score????
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: wrestlemania on January 22, 2023, 06:09:58 PM
18-18. Hawkeyes win on criteria 19-18.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Hungus on January 22, 2023, 06:35:23 PM
awesome atmosphere today... I wonder what they were thinking scheduling the next two home duals the same days as WIAA regionals and sectionals.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: crossface21 on January 22, 2023, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: heavy9278 on January 22, 2023, 06:35:23 PMawesome atmosphere today... I wonder what they were thinking scheduling the next two home duals the same days as WIAA regionals and sectionals.

yeah, agreed. That's gonna drop their attendance quite a bit for those duals.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: imwi on January 22, 2023, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: wrestlemania on January 22, 2023, 05:41:10 PMIowa's Twitter account: no Brands at 174 and no Warner at 197 today.

Interesting they didn't think they needed them, especially at 197 after Dow's pin. Dang near lost and even still after 10 matches it WAS A TIE! Best showing against Iowa in a long time.

I've been critical of the program but you've got to praise what happened today. New home attendance record and they got to see what a competitive, fiercely fought Division I college dual meet can be like and how exciting it can be. Dow has just been awesome this week. Talk about stepping up. That's what fans wanted to see from UW wrestlers beyond just the top guys. If they had this kind of energy they would have won Midlands and beat Illinois. In my book Dow's set at 184.

Is there something wrong with Barnett i.e. injury or illness? Appreciate him trying to gut his way through it but he may need some time off

Rumor has it there may be been some weight issues with Iowa's starters
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: imwi on January 22, 2023, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: crossface21 on January 22, 2023, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: heavy9278 on January 22, 2023, 06:35:23 PMawesome atmosphere today... I wonder what they were thinking scheduling the next two home duals the same days as WIAA regionals and sectionals.

yeah, agreed. That's gonna drop their attendance quite a bit for those duals.

I may be wrong but I don't think the Badgers have much to do with the schedule, more of the Big Ten.  But I guess not for UNI.  I also think it's been like that the last few years
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: wrestlemania on January 22, 2023, 07:22:43 PM
Here's how the dual meet played out:

Jan. 22, 2023 - #13 Wisconsin 18, #2 Iowa 19 (Madison, Wis.) | WIS - IOWA
125: #1 Spencer Lee (IOWA) over #6 Eric Barnett (WIS) (Fall 4:38) | 0-6
133: Brody Teske (IOWA) over #28 Taylor Lamont (WIS) (Dec 4-0)  | 0-9
141: #2 Real Woods (IOWA) over #26 Joseph Zargo (WIS) (Dec 9-2) | 0-12
149: #2 Austin Gomez (WIS) over #7 Max Murin (IOWA) (Dec 5-3) | 3-12
157: #21 Cobe Siebrecht (IOWA) over #18 Garrett Model (WIS) (Dec 3-2) | 3-15
165: #6 Dean Hamiti (WIS) over #10 Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) (Dec 4-3) | 6-15
174: Josh Otto (WIS) over Drake Rhodes (IOWA) (Dec 6-5) | 9-15
184: Tyler Dow (WIS) over #8 Abe Assad (IOWA) (Fall 1:24) | 15-15
197: #13 Braxton Amos (WIS) over Kolby Franklin (IOWA) (Dec 4-0) | 18-15
285: #3 Tony Cassioppi (IOWA) over #11 Trent Hillger (WIS) (Dec 4-1) | 18-18
Iowa wins tie break criteria 1.0 | 18-19
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Harris on January 22, 2023, 09:16:48 PM
That was the most exciting Wisconsin wrestling dual I can remember.  That was fun!  When Dow got the pin the place just exploded. 
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: head57 on January 22, 2023, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: Harris on January 22, 2023, 09:16:48 PMThat was the most exciting Wisconsin wrestling dual I can remember.  That was fun!  When Dow got the pin the place just exploded. 

I had some family over, and the living room got very rowdy when Dow launched!!! Fun weekend of Badgers wrestling.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: DocWrestling on January 22, 2023, 09:49:13 PM
What a great dual!  Frustrating looking back at what could have been with a few breaks.  Sparks said UW has not beaten Iowa in Madison since 1945.  Wow.

As great as the Badgers stories were it is unbelievably amazing at the level Spencer Lee is at.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Vir Fortis on January 23, 2023, 04:25:04 AM
Quote from: DocWrestling on January 22, 2023, 09:49:13 PMWhat a great dual!  Frustrating looking back at what could have been with a few breaks.  Sparks said UW has not beaten Iowa in Madison since 1945.  Wow.

As great as the Badgers stories were it is unbelievably amazing at the level Spencer Lee is at.


I'm hearing a lot of people talk about how weak 125 is...and I'm pretty sure it's just Spencer Lee making it look weak.

Lets see if Patrick Glory can do his best Larry Owings. He's got his 8 matches in at 125. He's working his way down.
The ONLY flaw Lee's shown has been maybe a little bit of an issue with his gas tank(in matches his still dominating) due to the inability to train from the ACLs, the limited mat time.

If Glory can just wrestle a similar match to last years finals, but avoid giving up that early TD and then that sloppy  reversal he gave up...just saying. He's so tough on top(I thought he could have gotten NF last year to tie it up).


Other than that, the only other real question about Spencer Lee is can anyone else go 7 minutes with him next and can he knock off Gilman shortly after the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: onwisconsin on January 23, 2023, 08:02:52 AM
Definitely applaud the effort and the energy level.  Building the energy level in the Fieldhouse is so important.  Hopefully the average will soon be 5,000 or more.  I do believe the program is headed in the right direction.

Wish I could have been there.  I was out of state and watching on my phone as others were watching football.  They were very confused why I was so loud during Dow's match.  Unfortunately I couldn't convert anyone.

Now hope we can see some young men make a jump over then next 8 weeks.

Have a great week everyone.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: OneEyedFatMan on January 23, 2023, 09:06:14 AM
Dow's pin may have been the 1st time since Andy Rein stuck King Mueller with a headlock that a Badger has pinned a ranked Hawk in Madison. It was great that Tyler wouldn't let him weasle out of that lock-up.

By the way, it wasn't a true suplay (suplex). It was a double front arm-bar to a lace-leg throw  ;D
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 23, 2023, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: Vir Fortis on January 23, 2023, 04:25:04 AM
Quote from: DocWrestling on January 22, 2023, 09:49:13 PMWhat a great dual!  Frustrating looking back at what could have been with a few breaks.  Sparks said UW has not beaten Iowa in Madison since 1945.  Wow.

As great as the Badgers stories were it is unbelievably amazing at the level Spencer Lee is at.


I'm hearing a lot of people talk about how weak 125 is...and I'm pretty sure it's just Spencer Lee making it look weak.

Lets see if Patrick Glory can do his best Larry Owings. He's got his 8 matches in at 125. He's working his way down.
The ONLY flaw Lee's shown has been maybe a little bit of an issue with his gas tank(in matches his still dominating) due to the inability to train from the ACLs, the limited mat time.

If Glory can just wrestle a similar match to last years finals, but avoid giving up that early TD and then that sloppy  reversal he gave up...just saying. He's so tough on top(I thought he could have gotten NF last year to tie it up).


Other than that, the only other real question about Spencer Lee is can anyone else go 7 minutes with him next and can he knock off Gilman shortly after the NCAAs.

Your last quote made me laugh. I was just talking to son last night about 57 kg world team trials. Lee winning the NCAA's and the Hodge seems to be a foregone conclusion at this point so I have moved on to FS with him. I think I give the edge to Gillman but it is not a huge edge.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: bigoil on January 23, 2023, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: OneEyedFatMan on January 23, 2023, 09:06:14 AMDow's pin may have been the 1st time since Andy Rein stuck King Mueller with a headlock that a Badger has pinned a ranked Hawk in Madison. It was great that Tyler wouldn't let him weasle out of that lock-up.

By the way, it wasn't a true suplay (suplex). It was a double front arm-bar to a lace-leg throw  ;D
True but the way he landed on his head, Suplex!
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: crossface21 on January 23, 2023, 11:14:31 AM
As dominant as Lee has beeen, can he be this dominant at NCAA's? He's only wrestling 1 match every few days right now. Lets see how he does at Big Tens when he wrestles multiple matches over the course of a couple days. Will he win NCAA's, I think absolutely he does. But it may not be with as much domination with how much he'll need to wrestle in a couple of days with his knees.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 23, 2023, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: bigoil on January 23, 2023, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: OneEyedFatMan on January 23, 2023, 09:06:14 AMBy the way, it wasn't a true suplay (suplex). It was a double front arm-bar to a lace-leg throw  ;D
True but the way he landed on his head, Suplex!

I feel very strongly both ways. I never argue. (Billy Martin)
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 23, 2023, 11:40:45 AM
Regarding Lee's 'knees'.
I can only say this; I've known a number of athletes who have an amazing pain threshold and drive that will survive anything. This guy, may be one of 'those guys'.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 23, 2023, 01:43:42 PM
https://www.kwwl.com/sports/no-2-iowa-wrestlers-survive-scare-from-no-14-wisconsin/article_bf03764a-9ad9-11ed-a951-db072cd3d3a9.html

No. 2 Iowa wrestlers survive scare from No. 14 Wisconsin | Sports | kwwl.com
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 23, 2023, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: bigoil on January 23, 2023, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: OneEyedFatMan on January 23, 2023, 09:06:14 AMDow's pin may have been the 1st time since Andy Rein stuck King Mueller with a headlock that a Badger has pinned a ranked Hawk in Madison. It was great that Tyler wouldn't let him weasle out of that lock-up.

By the way, it wasn't a true suplay (suplex). It was a double front arm-bar to a lace-leg throw  ;D
True but the way he landed on his head, Suplex!

Best throw since the Russian threw Chris Taylor? ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79wBw_LJ9Y
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: SP on January 23, 2023, 05:37:23 PM
https://youtu.be/knvQWKyDXv0

Jared Frayer from beat the streets in New York.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 23, 2023, 06:03:17 PM
Is EB going to right the ship and be ok? Serious question, I honestly don't have a clue on what is going on. Obviously the Lee loss is no big deal but MI loss has me confused.
Some great wins by Badgers! Now can they carry that mo into Northwestern and pull out a victory?
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 23, 2023, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on January 23, 2023, 06:03:17 PMIs EB going to right the ship and be ok? Serious question, I honestly don't have a clue on what is going on. Obviously the Lee loss is no big deal but MI loss has me confused.
Some great wins by Badgers! Now can they carry that mo into Northwestern and pull out a victory?

Fair question, I think he is going to be fine and we will know pretty quickly. He has DeAugustino, Cronin and Mckee in the next 2 weekends and can probably still wrestle into a 2 or 3 seed for the Big Tens depending on how everything shakes out.

Ramos was a bummer and a match he certainly could have won and he looked sick against Medley. Clearly not himself. Still has one of the best wins of the season with the win over Courtney.
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: TomM on January 25, 2023, 03:10:15 PM
DITV Sports: Hawkeye wrestling narrowly escaped Badger claws in Madison - YouTube

https://youtu.be/BHdmJL9-XXA
Title: Re: Iowa dual
Post by: Vir Fortis on January 27, 2023, 06:44:56 AM
Quote from: crossface21 on January 23, 2023, 11:14:31 AMAs dominant as Lee has beeen, can he be this dominant at NCAA's? He's only wrestling 1 match every few days right now. Lets see how he does at Big Tens when he wrestles multiple matches over the course of a couple days. Will he win NCAA's, I think absolutely he does. But it may not be with as much domination with how much he'll need to wrestle in a couple of days with his knees.

Well, assuming Glory is on the other side of the bracket, I'd be a little surprised if he's NOT this dominant.

He's always wrestled better at the NCAAs than during the regular season.

Freshmen year;
2; Tech's(18-0 both times)
2 pins(avenging a B1G loss to Tomasello the 2 seed and #7 seed)
6-1 dominant win vs Suriano in the finals

Soph-Not QUITE as dominant
18-0 Tech
10-1 major
Pin over 8 seed
11-4 over 3 seed(again, avenging an earlier loss vs Piccinnini the 3 seed)
5-0 win over 4 seed

JR Year
2 Tech(21-3, 16-1)
3 Major(15-5, 10-2, 11-0)
7-0 Finals


Guys started to wrestle him like they wrestled Stevenson...just trying to keep it close...and I don't think that'll matter this year.
125 isn't as top heavy as it's been in the past.

I DO think there's a path to beating him and Glory is the only guy I can see doing it...and it'd have to be similar to how DeSanto beat him when he was going for his 4th straight title in PA and was undefeated(and teched him the year before).

DeSanto just pushed the pace all match. Lee did get a pretty controversial TD and DeSanto was lucky to not get turned.
Then DeSanto took feet, just kept hand-fighting and taking ground.
3rd period Lee was gassed.

DeSanto took him down I think 4 or 5 times. At one point, DeSanto cut him, completely broke free, Lee was coming up and he drilled him with another shot and they said Lee hadn't gotten the escape, but he was gassed.

That's the only thing that could stop him.

Glory is a MONSTER of a '25(which is why he's wrestling at 133 and just has his 8 in at 125). He's a beast on top and smart and solid on the bottom. That's how he turned the tables on Arajau last year.

So if he can get through the 1st without getting scored on, I could see him really wearing Lee down. Ride him on top...if he can get the boots in, maybe get a stalling as Lee doesn't open up much on the bottom in those situations and Glory looks like he's working for the turn. And I'd expect Glory to be about 150 for that finals match. So a stalling and a late TD.

I'm not putting any money on it, but I'm sure that's the game plan(that's gotta be the game plan for anyone wrestling Lee).

But I would expect Lee to make short work of every other 125 in the bracket and probably end up beating Glory ~7-2 or so.



We'll see if Lowden Swain can complete his Vision Quest though! It's gonna be a lot of fun!