I saw Devin Bahr in the transfer portal so I thought I would start a new string and we can all update as new information becomes available
From Wisconsin
Cody Anderson - Freshman - 157 - entered portal on March 11th
Devin Bahr - Senior - 157 - entered portal on April 7th
To Wisconsin
Nothing yet
Model back I had heard, that makes sense.
I thought Bahr Retired before last season
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
He wasn't at the Buckingham Awards last night. I hope Brooks Empey is ready to go!
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
The quote is liked by Reader and Amos retweeted RTC event in June yesterday, me thinks you reading too much into the word change, at least that's the optimist in me.
bigoil, are you sayin' the earth isn't flat?
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
I would love to see this. I believe this would allow him to be the ultra aggressive Braxton I have seen wrestle before this season.
Why cut big weight for 3 more years then have to gain weight for Greco. When you could just eat, lift, train, and ultimately feel better.
In the coaching staff and Braxton I trust.
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
I have thought Amos is more of a HWT. So moving Amos to HWT maybe a 4 year process with him reshirting next year and then 3 more years. Would this hamper recruiting Hopke because Hopke would have to sit for 2 years then?
Quote from: hammer on April 20, 2022, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
I have thought Amos is more of a HWT. So moving Amos to HWT maybe a 4 year process with him reshirting next year and then 3 more years. Would this hamper recruiting Hopke because Hopke would have to sit for 2 years then?
The Hopke angle is definitely a thought from a fan perspective. No matter what I think we need to do what is best for Braxton. That would be a great room with both Amos and Hopke.
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
He wasn't a big 197 pounder this year? 5'10 -5'11 tops and he didn't cary a ton of muscle. He was very competitive in a deep weight class last year and will be even better as some of these talented guys age out. It sounds like he is getting better at his nutrition and he needs to continue developing his offense. Only a couple freshman had a good year last year, he will be fine if the Badgers get someone on the senior level to move in and train with him.
Quote from: factfinder on April 21, 2022, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
He wasn't a big 197 pounder this year? 5'10 -5'11 tops and he didn't cary a ton of muscle. He was very competitive in a deep weight class last year and will be even better as some of these talented guys age out. It sounds like he is getting better at his nutrition and he needs to continue developing his offense. Only a couple freshman had a good year last year, he will be fine if the Badgers get someone on the senior level to move in and train with him.
+1
Just to add in to the conversation. He COULD redshirt this upcoming season and then olympic redshirt the following season. He would have 3 years of eligibility after that. That would allow him time to focus on freco and potentially make an world/olympic team.
Quote from: wrastle63 on April 21, 2022, 08:50:34 AM
Just to add in to the conversation. He COULD redshirt this upcoming season and then olympic redshirt the following season. He would have 3 years of eligibility after that. That would allow him time to focus on freco and potentially make an world/olympic team.
Braxton would certainly be the favorite at this point to make a U23 World Team at 97 kg in Greco but to make a World or Olympic team at the senior level any time soon is going to be a challenge. There seems to be a fair gap between him and G'Angelo Hancock. Hancock is just 24 and seems to be hitting his stride. He is probably the best US Greco wrestler at this point and does not appear to be going anywhere soon.
The best version of Amos I've seen is training/walking at 220-230 and competing at 97kg. My not strong opinion is to much energy/focused training this past year on nutrition/downsizing and not enough on scoring/generating offense, resulted in what we saw.
As much as I'd like to see Hopke as a badger, the reality is Amos is one. Meaning his path is priority and what is best for Amos is what is best for Wisconsin. Unfortunately I don't see him being a top 1-8 next year at 197, which is essentially equates to nothing at NCAAs. Obviously I'm speculating here, but an alternate training focus (getting bigger) and maybe he is a 235-lbs, top 3, HWT? Is it worth the gamble if you factor in the Hopke recruiting potential? I trust the staff knows the answer and we'll see it play out.
Just curious if anybody knows how Braxton fares against Hilger in the training room. That would be a pretty good measuring stick I'd say.
Quote from: factfinder on April 21, 2022, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
He wasn't a big 197 pounder this year? 5'10 -5'11 tops and he didn't cary a ton of muscle. He was very competitive in a deep weight class last year and will be even better as some of these talented guys age out. It sounds like he is getting better at his nutrition and he needs to continue developing his offense. Only a couple freshman had a good year last year, he will be fine if the Badgers get someone on the senior level to move in and train with him.
This is my thought also. He's not going to be tall enough IMO to be as effective against the big boys. If he struggled to get under 197s and finish, why would it be so much easier to finish on a 265 pound heavy? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He has Hillger to work with next year. After that?
Quote from: Ghetto on April 21, 2022, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: factfinder on April 21, 2022, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 20, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 19, 2022, 07:57:04 PM
What does Braxton's Facebook post about change mean? Hope it is not what first came to mind...
Time to move up to heavy and take a year to redshirt and put on size?
He wasn't a big 197 pounder this year? 5'10 -5'11 tops and he didn't cary a ton of muscle. He was very competitive in a deep weight class last year and will be even better as some of these talented guys age out. It sounds like he is getting better at his nutrition and he needs to continue developing his offense. Only a couple freshman had a good year last year, he will be fine if the Badgers get someone on the senior level to move in and train with him.
This is my thought also. He's not going to be tall enough IMO to be as effective against the big boys. If he struggled to get under 197s and finish, why would it be so much easier to finish on a 265 pound heavy? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He has Hillger to work with next year. After that?
He might be a tweener like Garret Lowney, Garret was much better at international styles because he was perfect for 97 Kilos (212), 6' 225 cutting to 212.
Garret was Jacked though.
Beard is now in the portal. Would be a great get with Amos going up to 285 per the experts on the forum.
Bono needs to figure out what to do with Amos. I hear the Badgers gave him the farm and now after 2 years out of high school the Badgers really havent set the world on fire bringing in 197 and HWT recruits, which I am sure due to Amos being at 197. So the Badgers landed the kid from Florida and Empy to wrestle 197 if Amos goes up. Which then if Amos does go to HWT you possibly loss out on landing Hopke. If your happy with the recruits at 197 that is fine but Bono really had no interest in recruiting 197 since they landed Amos. Kind of a strange deal going on if you ask me.
Gerit Nijenhuis entered the portal with 3 years of eligibility left. He would be a good get.
Badgers could use Nijenhuis at 174.
He beat Labriola this season.
He would be good one.
I think there is no denying that Amos is a "tweener." The sooner the UW decides which direction to go will help the UW in recruiting.
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 21, 2022, 09:22:32 AM
The best version of Amos I've seen is training/walking at 220-230 and competing at 97kg. My not strong opinion is to much energy/focused training this past year on nutrition/downsizing and not enough on scoring/generating offense, resulted in what we saw.
As much as I'd like to see Hopke as a badger, the reality is Amos is one. Meaning his path is priority and what is best for Amos is what is best for Wisconsin. Unfortunately I don't see him being a top 1-8 next year at 197, which is essentially equates to nothing at NCAAs. Obviously I'm speculating here, but an alternate training focus (getting bigger) and maybe he is a 235-lbs, top 3, HWT? Is it worth the gamble if you factor in the Hopke recruiting potential? I trust the staff knows the answer and we'll see it play out.
Go back and watch some old HS matches on you tube and you will see how they always said he was a smaller 220 pounder. He also won a lot of matches with sound defense at tournaments like the Iron Man, he wasn't a big score guy from his feet even in HS. He is an incredible hand fighter which in HS is rare and that won him a lot of matches, but in college almost everyone is a solid hand fighter. His advanced hand fighting is a big part of his success at the international styles. He has always had a real good top game as well! So just like 90% of the bigger freshman he needs to learn a mid range offense (elbows and wrists) and not just scoring from tight ties, and get better on the bottom a long with good nutritional options that get him lean and keep him strong.
He can eat 5 healthy meals a day and get down to 200-202 (in season) and only need to pull 4 or 5 pounds the day of weigh in's. I bet he pinches at 12-13% body fat and would only need to get down to 8% (24 pounds) to be in the right rang to make 197 with out over dehydrating himself.
Time for some "Great Day to be a Badger".
Quote from: Gutwrench on April 21, 2022, 10:24:08 AM
Just curious if anybody knows how Braxton fares against Hilger in the training room. That would be a pretty good measuring stick I'd say.
I believe people had posted on here that he doesn't do very well...
I don't think that's necessarily very telling. Hilger is a very athletic light HWT in what has been just loaded the last several years and a 3X AA, so you'd kinda expect the older guy who's experienced that type of success to beat up on the younger guy.
I'd be inclined to agree with Ghetto and the others who've said that he doesn't look big enough(as in long enough) to be a HWT, but I'm also entirely ignorant on what weight he's comfortable with or anything else about him. Just my take from afar.
He seems like the type of guy who it could all start to click for very quickly. Once he develops or finds that go to shot or just decides to let it go and start attacking more, he could shoot up in the rankings.
I also agree, you can't worry about Koy Hopke when deciding what weight he's going to Wrestle. I doubt Minnesota signed Nelson thinking, "we can't sign this HWT stud, there's another one coming up in a couple years that we really want." I'll let Bono worry about spreading the money out and just hope the Badgers can convince some of those studs in the '24 class to sign up. We're 2-3 years away from those two even having to POTENTIALLY wrestle off for a spot.
So yeah...as big a fan of that class as I am, how silly would it be to have him go one weight or the other at THIS point with that in mind?
I got all excited when I saw something was posted on this trend yesterday as I am hoping the Badgers pick up two transfers to fill in the line up a bit, yup :-[
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Quote from: bjb0501 on June 06, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Burwick out.
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Burwick out.
I finally understood this comment after reading that Burwick entered the transfer portal on The Mat.Com; previously I just thought that tigerking was saying that Burwick would be displaced in the lineup (for the coming year). Now I see that the report is that he will be leaving the UW. That's disappointing - always liked Burwick in red. Possibly leads to a bigger question whether Lamont for one is better than Burwick for three more. Lots of questions associated with either option, just wish Bono could have kept them both in the room.
Quote from: npope on June 16, 2022, 05:07:59 AM
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Burwick out.
I finally understood this comment after reading that Burwick entered the transfer portal on The Mat.Com; previously I just thought that tigerking was saying that Burwick would be displaced in the lineup (for the coming year). Now I see that the report is that he will be leaving the UW. That's disappointing - always liked Burwick in red. Possibly leads to a bigger question whether Lamont for one is better than Burwick for three more. Lots of questions associated with either option, just wish Bono could have kept them both in the room.
Yea hard, but also have Nicolar and Bobzien coming in who will be 125/133. Maybe he saw what was coming?
I don't blame Burwick for leaving and I don't blame Bono for bringing in LaMont. Nothing against Burwick, but if the goal is to be a top 10 team year after year, if you did not perform better than Burwick did after 3 years in the program, your spot shouldn't be safe.
Hopefully Burwick finds success at a new home and hopefully Nicolar or Bobzien will be ready to step in at 133 next year.
Quote from: npope on June 16, 2022, 05:07:59 AM
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Burwick out.
I finally understood this comment after reading that Burwick entered the transfer portal on The Mat.Com; previously I just thought that tigerking was saying that Burwick would be displaced in the lineup (for the coming year). Now I see that the report is that he will be leaving the UW. That's disappointing - always liked Burwick in red. Possibly leads to a bigger question whether Lamont for one is better than Burwick for three more. Lots of questions associated with either option, just wish Bono could have kept them both in the room.
I made this comment with the thought that if he stayed, he would not be in the line up, but I also heard rumors that he was leaving when I made this comment. So it was a little of both. I think the writing was on the wall with all the young talent coming in and Lamont transferring in.
Burwick is a borderline NCAA Qualifier that will make a team very happy at 133.
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: bjb0501 on June 06, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Burwick out.
Burwick to Nebraska (per his twitter)
I hope he finds great success - other than when he is facing his old team....
Quote from: heavy9278 on July 07, 2022, 08:35:30 PM
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: bjb0501 on June 06, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Burwick out.
this will be a good measure of the coaching staff. If Burwick improves we have wonder and if he stays the same or regress we know Bono and staff are doing well at their job. I will be interested in if Kyle even makes the line up.
Burwick to Nebraska (per his twitter)
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 09, 2022, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: heavy9278 on July 07, 2022, 08:35:30 PM
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: bjb0501 on June 06, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Burwick out.
this will be a good measure of the coaching staff. If Burwick improves we have wonder and if he stays the same or regress we know Bono and staff are doing well at their job. I will be interested in if Kyle even makes the line up.
Burwick to Nebraska (per his twitter)
he beat their starter last year.
Quote from: bigoil on July 10, 2022, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 09, 2022, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: heavy9278 on July 07, 2022, 08:35:30 PM
Quote from: tigerking on June 07, 2022, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: bjb0501 on June 06, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Has the Taylor LaMont transfer news been brought up yet on the Forum, or did I miss it. What does this mean for our line-up...Barnett to use his redshirt or is Burwick potentially getting pushed out?
https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786 (https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/25786)
Burwick out.
this will be a good measure of the coaching staff. If Burwick improves we have wonder and if he stays the same or regress we know Bono and staff are doing well at their job. I will be interested in if Kyle even makes the line up.
Burwick to Nebraska (per his twitter)
he beat their starter last year.
Kyle Burwick is 1-1 against Dominic Serrano (Burwick lost dual & won @ Big Tens)
Kyle Burwick is 1-1 against Boo Dryden (Burwick lost dual & won @ Big Tens)
Alex Thomsen was the starter in the past at 125
Boo Dryden was starter one year at Minnesota
Solid weight for Nebraska
And none of the above will beat Lamont. We are in a better position with Lamont in the lineup. It's a shame that people choose to leave rather than fight for the spot/use the year to get better. Wish the ones who leave well and root for our guys.
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 11, 2022, 11:38:57 AM
And none of the above will beat Lamont. We are in a better position with Lamont in the lineup. It's a shame that people choose to leave rather than fight for the spot/use the year to get better. Wish the ones who leave well and root for our guys.
+1
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 11, 2022, 11:38:57 AM
And none of the above will beat Lamont. We are in a better position with Lamont in the lineup. It's a shame that people choose to leave rather than fight for the spot/use the year to get better. Wish the ones who leave well and root for our guys.
Possibly his intention is to get better and be the starter on the new team......
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 11, 2022, 11:38:57 AM
And none of the above will beat Lamont. We are in a better position with Lamont in the lineup. It's a shame that people choose to leave rather than fight for the spot/use the year to get better. Wish the ones who leave well and root for our guys.
Have to agree that lamont is the best of the ones mentioned.
I will say there is alot more to staying/leaving than fighting out a spot.
In the past year how many badgers have left the program. Is that number on par with other schools?
Quote from: littleguy301 on July 11, 2022, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 11, 2022, 11:38:57 AM
And none of the above will beat Lamont. We are in a better position with Lamont in the lineup. It's a shame that people choose to leave rather than fight for the spot/use the year to get better. Wish the ones who leave well and root for our guys.
Have to agree that lamont is the best of the ones mentioned.
I will say there is alot more to staying/leaving than fighting out a spot.
In the past year how many badgers have left the program. Is that number on par with other schools?
We have lost some guys but also gained quite a few as well. I'm sure I missed a few but just off the top of my head we have gained way more than we lost.
Lost- Wick, Burwick, Krattiger
Gained- Gross, Gomez, Lamont, Weiler, McNally, and Moran.
I know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes with scholarship money, but when a school picks up some stud I suspect they have to offer them something. In a world with limited scholarships (9.9) that would suggest that the program has 1) a stash of excess (undispersed) scholarship $$ from which they can take money or 2) the program might adjust funding and reallocate money - I am under the impression that scholarships funds are actually made on a year-by-year basis - please correct me if I am wrong on this assumption. And in this newly minted NIL world and quick-n-easy transfer portal, all things are possible, I guess.
That said, my point here is that the addition of a stud around a given weight may set in motion decisions that negatively affect a previous starter's financial situation that adds something more to the decision to stay and compete or simply leave for another school that might be able to offer some comparable funding. My understanding on these dynamics might be simplistic and naïve and if so, hoping that someone might be able to educate me on the matter.
Quote from: npope on July 12, 2022, 06:23:11 AM
I know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes with scholarship money, but when a school picks up some stud I suspect they have to offer them something. In a world with limited scholarships (9.9) that would suggest that the program has 1) a stash of excess (undispersed) scholarship $$ from which they can take money or 2) the program might adjust funding and reallocate money - I am under the impression that scholarships funds are actually made on a year-by-year basis - please correct me if I am wrong on this assumption. And in this newly minted NIL world and quick-n-easy transfer portal, all things are possible, I guess.
That said, my point here is that the addition of a stud around a given weight may set in motion decisions that negatively affect a previous starter's financial situation that adds something more to the decision to stay and compete or simply leave for another school that might be able to offer some comparable funding. My understanding on these dynamics might be simplistic and naïve and if so, hoping that someone might be able to educate me on the matter.
Nat, that is my understanding as well and your point is well taken. You have to assume that top recruits who could go anywhere in the nation (regardless of if they are in the lineup or redshirting) and returning AA's and AA's coming in through the portal are likely to get pretty close to a full scholarship that does not leave much money for qualifiers, fringe qualifiers and backups. I have no idea how the NIL impacts this but it is hard to imagine that a stud wrestler is going to compete with little or no scholarship just because they have some NIL money coming in and lesser known guys are probably not getting a lot of NIL money.
I thought I heard from a good source that NO ONE ever gets a "full scholarship" from the 9.9 available to each program. Rather that scholarship money is spread out in terms of certain percentages, with the bigger recruits and best wrestlers getting a higher percentage, but it is never close to 100%. The other money comes from other "approved" sources in which certain athletes get better "opportunities". Maybe those closer to D1 programs, or D1 coaches could come and explain how this works...or maybe they would rather not? Ha!
Sorry for all the quoted words but just means those are bigger topics in of themselves.
AJ Ferrari rumored to be entering the portal...
Hard pass and that was before I read this.
https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html (https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html)
This could be exactly what we need. We get AJ and the 2 younger brothers as well. Bring in BentAzgrin to be their handler and we will need to wrestle in the stadium to house the combined egos. It will put fans in the seats and get us near a team trophy.
I was once told during the Gopher run of championship level seasons that the wrestlers took lesser scholarships and they all worked the JRob camps. They ended up with more money and they were expected to train all summer anyway. There were a couple of athletes who did not buy in to this but mostly they were of the same mindset.
Quote from: npope on July 12, 2022, 06:23:11 AM
I know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes with scholarship money, but when a school picks up some stud I suspect they have to offer them something. In a world with limited scholarships (9.9) that would suggest that the program has 1) a stash of excess (undispersed) scholarship $$ from which they can take money or 2) the program might adjust funding and reallocate money - I am under the impression that scholarships funds are actually made on a year-by-year basis - please correct me if I am wrong on this assumption. And in this newly minted NIL world and quick-n-easy transfer portal, all things are possible, I guess.
That said, my point here is that the addition of a stud around a given weight may set in motion decisions that negatively affect a previous starter's financial situation that adds something more to the decision to stay and compete or simply leave for another school that might be able to offer some comparable funding. My understanding on these dynamics might be simplistic and naïve and if so, hoping that someone might be able to educate me on the matter.
Quote from: imwi on July 13, 2022, 02:26:31 PM
Hard pass and that was before I read this.
https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html (https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html)
According to Seth Duckworth, who does a lot of media/stories about the Cowboy wrestling program, Ferrari wasn't even on the roster before this came out.
Quote from: Ghetto on July 14, 2022, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: imwi on July 13, 2022, 02:26:31 PM
Hard pass and that was before I read this.
https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html (https://www.ocolly.com/national-champion-ferrari-released-from-team-served-protective-order/article_d719a204-02cc-11ed-b1bb-c39b4926a729.html)
According to Seth Duckworth, who does a lot of media/stories about the Cowboy wrestling program, Ferrari wasn't even on the roster before this came out.
I thought in that statement that he was referring to the younger brother that had committed to them but wasn't on the roster. I did read that AJ was let go before the store broke though
https://twitter.com/seth_duckworth/status/1547322431639003136?s=21&t=Nccw8yFk6IAJc7CMARhO-g
Thanks
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Agreed but totally different people. AJ Ferrari has never been told no in his life. He thinks everything he's done is ok.
That's my opinion.
Quote from: Ghetto on July 16, 2022, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Agreed but totally different people. AJ Ferrari has never been told no in his life. He thinks everything he's done is ok.
That's my opinion.
I know burglary and sexual assault are both felonies in the eyes of the law and may have similar penalties but to me they are completely different things. To me, people who use their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... to prey on other people fall into a special category.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on July 16, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
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Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Agreed but totally different people. AJ Ferrari has never been told no in his life. He thinks everything he's done is ok.
That's my opinion.
I know burglary and sexual assault are both felonies in the eyes of the law and may have similar penalties but to me they are completely different things. To me, people who use their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... to prey on other people fall into a special category.
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Why would you necessarily associate either burglary or sexual assault with people using their "...power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc..."? And even if they fall into separate categories, why couldn't/shouldn't they have similar penalties? Are you trying to say that one category of crime is necessarily dramatically different than the other and thus worthy of far different penalties? Just trying to be clear on what you are trying to say here.
Quote from: npope on July 16, 2022, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: vsmf2010 on July 16, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on July 16, 2022, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Agreed but totally different people. AJ Ferrari has never been told no in his life. He thinks everything he's done is ok.
That's my opinion.
I know burglary and sexual assault are both felonies in the eyes of the law and may have similar penalties but to me they are completely different things. To me, people who use their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... to prey on other people fall into a special category.
???
Why would you necessarily associate either burglary or sexual assault with people using their "...power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc..."? And even if they fall into separate categories, why couldn't/shouldn't they have similar penalties? Are you trying to say that one category of crime is necessarily dramatically different than the other and thus worthy of far different penalties? Just trying to be clear on what you are trying to say here.
I do not make the laws and I am not disputing the penalties. Burglary is certainly a crime and 1 deserving of a penalty. It is a crime of property or money and for the most part is a crime that you can atone for by restitution or other means. Sexual assault is a crime perpetrated directly against an individual and a crime that causes permanent damage. A sexual assault has taken something from a victim that can never be corrected and for me personally puts it in another category.
I am not associating burglary with people using their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... but I am am associating sexual assault with those things. Sexual abuse and assault as well as domestic abuse is often the result of a disparity in power. Men can use their physical strength to overwhelm their victims or threats of death or violence. Powerful people (generally men but not always) can use their standing, connections, wealth etc.. to sexually abuse and assault less powerful and connected men and women. Pedophiles prey on children because of the disparity in power. That is all I am saying.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on July 16, 2022, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: npope on July 16, 2022, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: vsmf2010 on July 16, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on July 16, 2022, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
Seems like someone the Badgers should stay away from but ask Seth if he discerns he has come to grab with his wrongs and is ready to get his life on the right path instead of destruction.
Agreed but totally different people. AJ Ferrari has never been told no in his life. He thinks everything he's done is ok.
That's my opinion.
I know burglary and sexual assault are both felonies in the eyes of the law and may have similar penalties but to me they are completely different things. To me, people who use their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... to prey on other people fall into a special category.
???
Why would you necessarily associate either burglary or sexual assault with people using their "...power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc..."? And even if they fall into separate categories, why couldn't/shouldn't they have similar penalties? Are you trying to say that one category of crime is necessarily dramatically different than the other and thus worthy of far different penalties? Just trying to be clear on what you are trying to say here.
I do not make the laws and I am not disputing the penalties. Burglary is certainly a crime and 1 deserving of a penalty. It is a crime of property or money and for the most part is a crime that you can atone for by restitution or other means. Sexual assault is a crime perpetrated directly against an individual and a crime that causes permanent damage. A sexual assault has taken something from a victim that can never be corrected and for me personally puts it in another category.
I am not associating burglary with people using their power, position, strength, wealth, standing, connections, etc... but I am am associating sexual assault with those things. Sexual abuse and assault as well as domestic abuse is often the result of a disparity in power. Men can use their physical strength to overwhelm their victims or threats of death or violence. Powerful people (generally men but not always) can use their standing, connections, wealth etc.. to sexually abuse and assault less powerful and connected men and women. Pedophiles prey on children because of the disparity in power. That is all I am saying.
Right...that certainly makes sense. And I'd say that penalties probably should be a lot more severe for one over the other. You go into someone's house/room/business and steal property...that's certainly not good, but it can be replaced. Sexual assault...you're stealing something much different and more irreplaceable.
Not that the kids been convicted, but that's just a basic common sense variable that's going to play into the equation for any Head Coach, any AD, any program.
I just saw that Ethan Rotondo is in the transfer portal and is transferring to Cal Poly.
New recruits and the transfer portal have made this team better. We will sometimes lose depth (room) guys who believe they might start elsewhere. Rotondo was our backup and with the addition of Lamont, he was likely 3rd string (before Burwick left for similar reasons). Being realistic, Rotondo would have helped in the practice room and would have been a very good fill in if Lamont gets hurt but would have otherwise sat and watched his senior year. As a senior, I don't blame him for rolling the dice elsewhere but I think he will regret it if this turns into a team trophy year.
Not knowing Cal Polys roster, I'd say it was good move for Rotondo.
Quote from: MakingABadgerer on July 13, 2022, 03:58:41 PMThis could be exactly what we need. We get AJ and the 2 younger brothers as well. Bring in BentAzgrin to be their handler and we will need to wrestle in the stadium to house the combined egos. It will put fans in the seats and get us near a team trophy.
Is this one of the brothers you want to recruit?
Assault and battery charges filed against Anthony Ferrari, younger brother of AJ Ferrari (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/assault-and-battery-charges-filed-against-anthony-ferrari-younger-brother-of-aj-ferrari/article_7f789638-226e-11ed-8af5-d775f7d88b4e.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)