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Title: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: TomM on January 10, 2022, 01:31:24 PM
Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Invitational
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Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: Gordy M on January 10, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
 Nice work Nicolar, as far as I'm concerned your #1 guy in the nation now.
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: MatScoutWillie on January 10, 2022, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: Gordy M on January 10, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
Nice work Nicolar, as far as I'm concerned your #1 guy in the nation now.

Dumb take.  He's super talented, but until he is more consistent on the national stage, he's not #1.  He has the talent to be #1, clearly.  Just needs to be more consistent. 
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: beastmode on January 11, 2022, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: MatScoutWillie on January 10, 2022, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: Gordy M on January 10, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
Nice work Nicolar, as far as I'm concerned your #1 guy in the nation now.

Dumb take.  He's super talented, but until he is more consistent on the national stage, he's not #1.  He has the talent to be #1, clearly.  Just needs to be more consistent.

Willie, serious question here. Can you clarify how consistent you want him to be to deserve some love?  Nicolar has been this size/weight for a couple of years 120-130, Jesuroga just grew into 126, so hasn't been really tested consistently at this weight. Rivera has wins and super close matches over some great nationally ranked competition ( Corey Land, Lemley, Brandon Ross, and now Jesuroga ) He doesn't wrestle the super deep national schedule that Jesuroga does but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the notoriety when he beats these hammers. I'd say his resume is pretty solid and deserves a top 5 ranking for sure.
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: wrastle63 on January 11, 2022, 08:18:03 AM
Quote from: beastmode on January 11, 2022, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: MatScoutWillie on January 10, 2022, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: Gordy M on January 10, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
Nice work Nicolar, as far as I'm concerned your #1 guy in the nation now.

Dumb take.  He's super talented, but until he is more consistent on the national stage, he's not #1.  He has the talent to be #1, clearly.  Just needs to be more consistent.

Willie, serious question here. Can you clarify how consistent you want him to be to deserve some love?  Nicolar has been this size/weight for a couple of years 120-130, Jesuroga just grew into 126, so hasn't been really tested consistently at this weight. Rivera has wins and super close matches over some great nationally ranked competition ( Corey Land, Lemley, Brandon Ross, and now Jesuroga ) He doesn't wrestle the super deep national schedule that Jesuroga does but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the notoriety when he beats these hammers. I'd say his resume is pretty solid and deserves a top 5 ranking for sure.
No one argues with top 5, but the poster above said he is the #1.
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: Gordy M on January 11, 2022, 12:17:56 PM
He beat #1 so until someone beats him, which won't happen, he's # 1, be happy for him and move on.
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: NoFooForU on January 11, 2022, 05:42:58 PM
If the #1 goes down in a loss, then there's a new #1.  Its that simple.  If it isn't Rivera at #1, then who is it?
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: PAUL on January 11, 2022, 06:08:06 PM
I wish folks wouldn't categorize something as "dumb" simply because they don't agree with it. 
Title: Re: Stoughton's Nicolar Rivera tops nation's No. 1-ranked wrestler at Cheesehead Inv
Post by: beastmode on January 11, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
Quote from: PAUL on January 11, 2022, 06:08:06 PM
I wish folks wouldn't categorize something as "dumb" simply because they don't agree with it.

That's why Willie is self employed. He couldn't get along with the other kids in the sandbox when they disagreed.