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Title: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: TomM on July 29, 2021, 07:49:59 PM
BIG 12 NEWS Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State: Report

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2021/07/24/big-ten-has-engaged-in-unofficial-talks-with-oklahoma-state-report/
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: vsmf2010 on July 29, 2021, 10:31:05 PM
I had read this is a dead issue because the B1G confirmed that they would only be interested in adding AAU schools. Sounds like Kansas and Iowa St are a possibility but Oklahoma St is out. This could all change of course.
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: MakingABadgerer on July 30, 2021, 09:18:52 AM
Would love to see John Smith's boys come to Madison for a dual. Really interesting matchups
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: tex on July 31, 2021, 01:00:09 AM
WOW, would make big ten wrestling that much more of a meat grinder.  Not sure if that would be a good thing or bad thing.  Their may be nothing left of these kids by Nat. Tournament time.  Would certainly be interesting.
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: MNbadger on July 31, 2021, 11:50:35 AM
So conferences get bigger and bigger which inevitably leads to fewer conferences.  At what point do we just have one conference including all teams?  And then what is the point?
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: PAUL on July 31, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Hard to disagree with MN, I think non-conference duals are great but actually shifting the conference seems like in the long term would be hurtful.  If anything, and maybe it's an absurd idea, I wonder if Nebraska would be interested in moving to the Big 12 for wrestling as an affiliate. 
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: vsmf2010 on July 31, 2021, 04:50:24 PM
Clearly this is all about football money and to a smaller extent Men's BB money. Everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie. Just like organized crime, one less seat at the table means a bigger piece for everyone else.
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: bigG on August 02, 2021, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: tex on July 31, 2021, 01:00:09 AM
WOW, would make big ten wrestling that much more of a meat grinder.  Not sure if that would be a good thing or bad thing.  Their may be nothing left of these kids by Nat. Tournament time.  Would certainly be interesting.
Yes, in terms of wrestling, the conference would be puking up more talent. But, I believe this is Oklahoma, not Ok State. Not the Ok sucks at rasslin'. Tough guys. Always.
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: dad 2 5 on August 03, 2021, 09:17:33 AM
Quote from: bigG on August 02, 2021, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: tex on July 31, 2021, 01:00:09 AM
WOW, would make big ten wrestling that much more of a meat grinder.  Not sure if that would be a good thing or bad thing.  Their may be nothing left of these kids by Nat. Tournament time.  Would certainly be interesting.
Yes, in terms of wrestling, the conference would be puking up more talent. But, I believe this is Oklahoma, not Ok State. Not the Ok sucks at rasslin'. Tough guys. Always.

I think Ok want to go to SEC so not sure where that would leave them for wrestling
Title: Re: BIG 12 NEWS: Big Ten Has Engaged in Unofficial Talks with Oklahoma State
Post by: bigoil on August 03, 2021, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on August 03, 2021, 09:17:33 AM
Quote from: bigG on August 02, 2021, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: tex on July 31, 2021, 01:00:09 AM
WOW, would make big ten wrestling that much more of a meat grinder.  Not sure if that would be a good thing or bad thing.  Their may be nothing left of these kids by Nat. Tournament time.  Would certainly be interesting.
Yes, in terms of wrestling, the conference would be puking up more talent. But, I believe this is Oklahoma, not Ok State. Not the Ok sucks at rasslin'. Tough guys. Always.

I think Ok want to go to SEC so not sure where that would leave them for wrestling

Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC. That leaves the BIG 12 in peril, so some of those schools are naturally speculating where they can land. ISU, KU, OSU (haven't heard KSU).

Last night I also read Clemson and FSU looking at SEC.