So here is the big question, can and how could the Badgers earn a NCAA Team Trophy? First, here are some assumptions based on the past 8 contested years.
Here are the average team points per team place.
128 = 1st
108 = 2nd
94 = 3rd
80 = 4th
71 = 5th
So assume a team needs over 80 to get a trophy.
Here is a rough estimate of individual points per individual place.
24 = 1st
20 = 2nd
16 = 3rd
14 = 4th
12 = 5th
10 = 6th
8 = 7th
6.5 = 8th
4 = Round 12
2.5 = Round 16
1.5 = Round 24
So here are a couple paths to a trophy.
4 AA averaging runner-up points (20) = 80
5 AA averaging 3rd place points (16) = 80
6 AA averaging 4th place points (14) = 84
7 AA averaging 5th place points (12) = 84
Next, here is what we could possibly have.
2022
125-Barnett, 5th=12
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar
149-Scharenbrock, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Wick, 3rd=16
174-Krattiger/Dow, Rd16=2.5
184-Dow/Calhoun
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 3rd=16
So in 2022, 68 points is reasonable, but doesn't get it done. To get there, someone on the team would have to step up big, someone would have to transfer in, or a new recruit would have to be ready to jump in. Hamiti placing 5th with 12 points gets the Badgers to 80. 2 of 4 improving to AA among Burwick, Scharenbrock, Model, Krattiger also gets the team there. A Seth Gross type transfer could do it too. Is there a Jaydin Eierman or Sebastian Rivera out there?
2023 (starts getting questionable who uses the extra year, for example Hilger)
125-Barnett, 3rd=16
133-Burwick, 8th=6.5
141-Dentino/Escobar
149-Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Scharenbrock, Rd12=4
165-Hamiti, 5th=12
174-Krattiger/Dow, Rd12=4
184-Dow/Calhoun
197-Amos, 1st=24
285-Hilger/Copass/Christensen, 3rd=16
So in 2023, 84 points is reasonable???
So can Bucky get a trophy in the next two years???
Good summary. Shows how hard it is to be up there. Heavyweight is unique with the top talent. Steveson is way ahead of everyone. Parris is way ahead of everyone else. Cassioppi is way ahead of everyone else. Not trying to say Hillger cant do more, but expecting more than a potential 5th next year is asking a lot.
It is hard for me to see any points from Model or Scharenbrock. I do think Hamiti could be a potential guy who could get points at 157 right away, but will likely redshirt.
Quote from: mkm13 on March 20, 2021, 12:21:21 PM
Good summary. Shows how hard it is to be up there. Heavyweight is unique with the top talent. Steveson is way ahead of everyone. Parris is way ahead of everyone else. Cassioppi is way ahead of everyone else. Not trying to say Hillger cant do more, but expecting more than a potential 5th next year is asking a lot.
It is hard for me to see any points from Model or Scharenbrock. I do think Hamiti could be a potential guy who could get points at 157 right away, but will likely redshirt.
Steveson had talked about being done after this season, which would open up one side of the bracket opposite Parris.
That is a pretty good assessment. But it also is looking at more of the best case scenario's. But it does show a path for the badgers to be competitive with the top five in the nation. As a coaching staff I would assume that is what they're looking for as a pathway how to get there and how to get better recruits in.
Hate to say it, but I think the odds of a team trophy in the next two years are thin. My opinion is this shows just how many things would have to go perfect given the current team & RTC. To improve the trajectory, I think the Badgers need about 4 people yet. Two senior world team contenders (say Alex Dieringer, Zain Retherford, Isaiah Martinez types) training full time at the RTC and two more top 10 recruits (say Nic Bouzakis, Jesse Mendez, Caleb Henson) in the lower middle weights. These factors would contribute to long term success and raise the level of the current team to make the short term path to the team trophy more realistic.
But I'd also like to say, under our leadership's Hustle-Effort-Attitude, we have a great start!
Amazing to see six big ten teams in the top ten!
So why not Wick winning it all?
I am interested in what the team will look like next year. Can they move up the ladder in the Big Ten? I would think and hope so and I also think and hope they can move up from 18th in the NCAA. Far too early projection would be top ten in the NCAA, more would be great
So can Bucky get a trophy in the next two years???
Yes ;D
I think they would have to move mountains for it to happen but yes it is possible and a very reasonable goal for this group in the future.
I saw an interview with Ben Askren recently where he was talking about when he first started his academy. He was taking his wrestlers to a high level tournament for the first time and his kids were star struck. Ben basically said that half the challenge was getting his young men to believe in themselves and not put the other wrestlers on such a pedestal.
When you get the right group of wrestlers who actually believe they can compete at this level and don't let the "Iowa" or "Penn State" mystique get in the way, you can and will succeed. I believe this group of wrestlers coming in next year has that mentality. Only time will tell. Heck, I have even seen it at the high school level with Ellsworth and Amery. Look at what happened this year. Amery won it all.
From watching this years NCAA tournament I really believe anything is possible and attainable with the right mix of coaching, athletes, and mental toughness.
Quote from: rjchev141 on March 20, 2021, 01:03:26 PM
Hate to say it, but I think the odds of a team trophy in the next two years are thin. My opinion is this shows just how many things would have to go perfect given the current team & RTC. To improve the trajectory, I think the Badgers need about 4 people yet. Two senior world team contenders (say Alex Dieringer, Zain Retherford, Isaiah Martinez types) training full time at the RTC and two more top 10 recruits (say Nic Bouzakis, Jesse Mendez, Caleb Henson) in the lower middle weights. These factors would contribute to long term success and raise the level of the current team to make the short term path to the team trophy more realistic.
But I'd also like to say, under our leadership's Hustle-Effort-Attitude, we have a great start!
I believe those type of guys would take a lot of money to bring in. Is the RTC there? As fans, we should make sure we are all making it possible to provide opportunities like this to the Badger athletes. I myself have been bad about this, but will contribute today. Who else is in?
Let's follow that yellow brick road and get to the top!
Quote from: rjchev141 on March 20, 2021, 11:45:13 AM
So here is the big question, can and how could the Badgers earn a NCAA Team Trophy? First, here are some assumptions based on the past 8 contested years.
Here are the average team points per team place.
128 = 1st
108 = 2nd
94 = 3rd
80 = 4th
71 = 5th
So assume a team needs over 80 to get a trophy.
Here is a rough estimate of individual points per individual place.
24 = 1st
20 = 2nd
16 = 3rd
14 = 4th
12 = 5th
10 = 6th
8 = 7th
6.5 = 8th
4 = Round 12
2.5 = Round 16
1.5 = Round 24
So here are a couple paths to a trophy.
4 AA averaging runner-up points (20) = 80
5 AA averaging 3rd place points (16) = 80
6 AA averaging 4th place points (14) = 84
7 AA averaging 5th place points (12) = 84
Next, here is what we could possibly have.
2022
125-Barnett, 5th=12
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar
149-Scharenbrock, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Wick, 3rd=16
174-Krattiger/Dow, Rd16=2.5
184-Dow/Calhoun
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 3rd=16
So in 2022, 68 points is reasonable, but doesn't get it done. To get there, someone on the team would have to step up big, someone would have to transfer in, or a new recruit would have to be ready to jump in. Hamiti placing 5th with 12 points gets the Badgers to 80. 2 of 4 improving to AA among Burwick, Scharenbrock, Model, Krattiger also gets the team there. A Seth Gross type transfer could do it too. Is there a Jaydin Eierman or Sebastian Rivera out there?
2023 (starts getting questionable who uses the extra year, for example Hilger)
125-Barnett, 3rd=16
133-Burwick, 8th=6.5
141-Dentino/Escobar
149-Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Scharenbrock, Rd12=4
165-Hamiti, 5th=12
174-Krattiger/Dow, Rd12=4
184-Dow/Calhoun
197-Amos, 1st=24
285-Hilger/Copass/Christensen, 3rd=16
So in 2023, 84 points is reasonable???
So can Bucky get a trophy in the next two years???
You'd make a great weather man......the forecast is partly sunny, partly cloudy with a chance for rain.
Quote from: rjchev141 on March 20, 2021, 01:03:26 PM
Hate to say it, but I think the odds of a team trophy in the next two years are thin. My opinion is this shows just how many things would have to go perfect given the current team & RTC. To improve the trajectory, I think the Badgers need about 4 people yet. Two senior world team contenders (say Alex Dieringer, Zain Retherford, Isaiah Martinez types) training full time at the RTC and two more top 10 recruits (say Nic Bouzakis, Jesse Mendez, Caleb Henson) in the lower middle weights. These factors would contribute to long term success and raise the level of the current team to make the short term path to the team trophy more realistic.
But I'd also like to say, under our leadership's Hustle-Effort-Attitude, we have a great start!
I also like the HEA!
I think winning a trophy is a bit steep but a goal that I like. It is starting to shape up a bit with the young guys getting in or coming. Remember Wick and hilger have basically 1 more year then we need to find replacements for them so.........but i think that will happen. Copass is already coming so......
If Wick wins a national title next year that would be a huge recruiting tool for Wisconsin!
Remember there were 6 other big ten teams in the top 10 so getting ahead of 1 or 2 of them would be a big step. Getting a trophy would mean leaping past a couple of incredible programs in 2 years. Maybe a 5 year plan....then.
Go badgers!
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
Griffith to the Badgers and Wick goes 174? 174 should be pretty tough next year too. Might be a horse a piece.
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
I have watched Wick quite a bit during this season and he looks dramatically different to me. I would not expect him to take a back seat to anyone on that list and I would be shocked if a healthy EW was in the 5th place match next year.
Two other notes: Kharchla is the real deal and I would not be surprised to see him win the championship next year or any year after. Valencia was hurt pretty badly vs Smith in the quarters. I am not saying that O'Toole would not have beaten him but the tech fall was not indictive of the comparable levels of the 2.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on March 23, 2021, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
I have watched Wick quite a bit during this season and he looks dramatically different to me. I would not expect him to take a back seat to anyone on that list and I would be shocked if a healthy EW was in the 5th place match next year.
Two other notes: Kharchla is the real deal and I would not be surprised to see him win the championship next year or any year after. Valencia was hurt pretty badly vs Smith in the quarters. I am not saying that O'Toole would not have beaten him but the tech fall was not indictive of the comparable levels of the 2.
Kharchla is elite. Their room is full right now at Ohio State in the upper weights. I think Ethan Smith will be looking for a new home shortly.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on March 23, 2021, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
I have watched Wick quite a bit during this season and he looks dramatically different to me. I would not expect him to take a back seat to anyone on that list and I would be shocked if a healthy EW was in the 5th place match next year.
Two other notes: Kharchla is the real deal and I would not be surprised to see him win the championship next year or any year after. Valencia was hurt pretty badly vs Smith in the quarters. I am not saying that O'Toole would not have beaten him but the tech fall was not indictive of the comparable levels of the 2.
Agree with everything you wrote.
Don't see the Badgers cracking the top 10 for along time. Most blue chips go to Iowa, Penn. St., Okla. St... Big 10 is the best wrestling conference in the Country!
Quote from: gwmiller44 on March 23, 2021, 01:45:35 PM
Don't see the Badgers cracking the top 10 for along time. Most blue chips go to Iowa, Penn. St., Okla. St... Big 10 is the best wrestling conference in the Country!
This a bit of a strange take. The Badgers were certainly very likely to be in the top ten last year. As far as the blue chips. Of the currently committed top 10 High School wrestlers #1 and #3 are going to Penn State, #2 is going to Ohio St, #4 to AZ St, #7 to WI, #9 to Iowa and #10 to Lehigh. Of the 2020 top 10. #1 to WI, #2 to Mizzou, #3 to Iowa, #4 and #7 to Penn St, #5 to UNC, #6 to VA Tech, #8 to Cornell, #9 to Mich St and #10 to OK St. Penn St certainly has a leg up but beyond that the talent seems to be spread around.
Tough to say what things are going to look like with next year with extra eligibility and all the transfers but I would not think top ten is out of the realm of possibility. Three returning AA's, last years #1 and many other new faces. I think it would make sense to let things play out a bit before making that declaration.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on March 23, 2021, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
I have watched Wick quite a bit during this season and he looks dramatically different to me. I would not expect him to take a back seat to anyone on that list and I would be shocked if a healthy EW was in the 5th place match next year.
Just so I understand, since you would be shocked if he was wrestling for 5th, which of these wrestlers would you be shocked if he lost to? Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, O'Toole
My post was not meant to be negative at all as I am very high on Wick, just noting the talent next year will be extremely good.
The path will be dificult and challenging for the Badgers to lift a trophy in 2022.
Quote from: digimon on March 23, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
The path will be dificult and challenging for the Badgers to lift a trophy in 2022.
It will be difficult every year. The Badgers may not be a favorite for a trophy entering NCAAs any of the next five years. That does not mean it cannot happen.
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: vsmf2010 on March 23, 2021, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on March 23, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
Looking at 165 next year, it has a chance to be absolutely stacked:
Wick
Marinelli
Lewis (former NCAA champ, as tough as anyone if healthy)
Griffith (former NCAA champ)
O'Toole (took 3rd as true freshman, picked apart Valencia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqC1nbluJc)
Carson Kharchla (had some great wins prior to injury..will be very tough on his feet for anyone)
Facundo, or whoever PSU puts out at 165
Wittlake
Smith
Amine
Even with an improved Wick, I would be curious how he will stack up against Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, and O'Toole. That is some serious talent. It would hard to be upset if he finished 5th or 6th when you look at the other wrestlers.
I have watched Wick quite a bit during this season and he looks dramatically different to me. I would not expect him to take a back seat to anyone on that list and I would be shocked if a healthy EW was in the 5th place match next year.
Just so I understand, since you would be shocked if he was wrestling for 5th, which of these wrestlers would you be shocked if he lost to? Marinelli, Lewis, Griffith, Kharchla, O'Toole
My post was not meant to be negative at all as I am very high on Wick, just noting the talent next year will be extremely good.
Certainly was not insinuating that you were being negative. Just giving an assessment of the improvement I have seen from Evan.
Wouldn't necessarily be shocked if he lost to any of them but you do not wrestle all of them (you can only wrestle 1 finalist) and he would have to lose to 2 of them to be in the 5th place match. They are all very good but if I was predicting next year I would probably put Wick, Kharchla and Lewis (if the latter 2 fully recover from their injuries) in the first tier and the other 3 right behind them. A lot of this is based on what I have seen from Kharchla and how much better Evan looks now. His movement and attacks on his feet look completely different. You combine that with his counter wrestling and top abilities and I think he will be a terror next year. No matter how you slice it, I 100% agree with you it is a brutal weight class and on a par or better than 165 was 2018-2019 and 2019-2020.
? 2024 ?
125-Barnett, 3rd=16 (assuming he takes a 5th year)
133-Burwick, 5th=12
141-Recruit/Transfer Target (class 22)
149-Zargo, Rd12=4
157-Cole Carroll
165-Hamiti, 3rd=16
174-Otto, Rd24=1.5
184-Calhoun, Rd16=2.5
197-Amos, 1st=24
285-Copass, 8th=6.5
82.5 Points, 5 AA, 8Q - There is a realistic path to get there!
Looking at the Class of 22 Commitment list, Bucky hasn't had any commits yet. Looking at the 22 Big Board, there are still many light/middle weights available. Optimistically, lets hope Bono and Co. can land another top recruit and potentially a transfer and make this happen.
Willie has Hamiti projected at #11 next year for 157 and Amos at #5 for 197.
Here is what I think for a realistic projection for 2022 if things go good.
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar (no qualifier)
149-Scharenbrock/Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Wick, 4th=14
174-Dow/Calhoun, (no qualifier)
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
62 total point which gets just inside top 10
Quote from: rjchev141 on March 24, 2021, 04:50:33 PM
Here is what I think for a realistic projection for 2022 if things go good.
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar (no qualifier)
149-Scharenbrock/Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Wick, 4th=14
174-Dow/Calhoun, (no qualifier)
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
62 total point which gets just inside top 10
That looks achievable. Let's hope!
Badgers are getting closer! McNally in the mix helps! Can't wait to see Zargo, Hamiti, and Amos this weekend. Might give some insight to potential for NCAA points next year too?
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar (possibly Zargo???)
149-Scharenbrock, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5 (possibly Hamiti???)
165-Wick, 4th=14
174-McNally, 7th=8
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
70 total points, without Zargo/Hamiti
Quote from: rjchev141 on April 26, 2021, 06:56:05 PM
Badgers are getting closer! McNally in the mix helps! Can't wait to see Zargo, Hamiti, and Amos this weekend. Might give some insight to potential for NCAA points next year too?
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Dentino/Escobar (possibly Zargo???)
149-Scharenbrock, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5 (possibly Hamiti???)
165-Wick, 4th=14
174-McNally, 7th=8
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
70 total points, without Zargo/Hamiti
6 AA! That would be awesome! Has there ever been a Badger team that had 6 AA?
2010 was the most recent year in which the Badgers took fourth and got a trophy and they did that with 7 qualifiers and four place winners (https://uwbadgers.com/documents/2015/10/26//Wrestling_2009_finalrelease.pdf?id=18025 (https://uwbadgers.com/documents/2015/10/26//Wrestling_2009_finalrelease.pdf?id=18025)). Way back in 1970s I believe the Badgers took fourth on two occasions as well, but that may not be applicable in today's competitive and relatively more concentrated-pool-of-talent environment. But that 2010 team wasn't something everybody was all excited about; good, but no chatter about pressing for a top four finish. I guess my point is that a good solid push by a handful of guys can get to a trophy - the line up doesn't have to be stacked with super heroes.
Next year will be stacked at a lot of weights. The guys who are low AA potential on a typical year will have a few more guys to battle to AA because of the extra year everyone has.
I sure hope it happens, but I think a lot of things would have to fall right to have Barnett, McNally, and Weiler all AA. There will be some studs at 125, 174, and 184 that they will all have to deal with this year that did not wrestle last year due to COVID/Olympics.
Update - (if WI lands Gomez & Hamiti starts)
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Gomez, 7th=8
149-Scharenbrock/Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Hamiti, Rd16=2.5
174-McNally, 7th=8
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
66.5 total point, solid chance getting inside top 10
Quote from: rjchev141 on May 28, 2021, 09:08:56 AM
Update - (if WI lands Gomez & Hamiti starts)
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Gomez, 7th=8
149-Scharenbrock/Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Hamiti, Rd16=2.5
174-McNally, 7th=8
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
66.5 total point, solid chance getting inside top 10
Is this best case scenario projections? I am all for it! 6 All-Americans would be insane for the badgers.
Quote from: tigerking on May 28, 2021, 10:41:53 AM
Quote from: rjchev141 on May 28, 2021, 09:08:56 AM
Update - (if WI lands Gomez & Hamiti starts)
125-Barnett, 8th=6.5
133-Burwick, Rd16=2.5
141-Gomez, 7th=8
149-Scharenbrock/Zargo, Rd24=1.5
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Hamiti, Rd16=2.5
174-McNally, 7th=8
184-Weiler, 7th=8
197-Amos, 3rd=16
285-Hilger, 5th=12
66.5 total point, solid chance getting inside top 10
Is this best case scenario projections? I am all for it! 6 All-Americans would be insane for the badgers.
Yeah pretty much, but this is a realistic possibility if everything goes right. It would be possible to get a touch more, but not much. Obviously it is much more likely it doesn't go this good.
So how about 2023? As of today, here is an optimistic scenario with everyone slightly improving.
125-Barnett, 5th=12
133-LaMont, 8th=6.5
141-Zargo, Rd16=2.5
149-Gomez, 2nd=20
157-Model, Rd24=1.5
165-Hamiti, 3rd=16
174-Dow/Otto/Model/Calhoun/Transfer?
184-Rowley/Transfer?
197-Amos, Rd16=2.5
285-Hilger, 8th=6.5
Based on 2022 team score results, this would put WI at 4th.
For an optomistic scenario, that looks good. If we are being optomistic, I think Braxton could be higher.