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Title: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on February 20, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
125 Barnett (J)           Rotundo (se)
133 Burwick (So)        Denito (J)
141 Zargo (F)             Escobar (So)
149 Scharenbrock (J) Medora (So)
157 Model (Se)          Bahr (Se)
165 ?Wick? (Se)        Hamiti (F)
174 Kratty (J) or Otto (So) or Dow (J)
184 Kratty (J) or Otto (So) or Dow (J)
197 Amos (F)             Christensen (So) or Salemme (J)
hwy Hillger (Se)         Compass (F)

Not sure how this "free" year will be designated on the grade guys are in.

What are your thoughts? Not a bad team
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: crossface21 on February 21, 2021, 02:44:48 PM
IMO, I have a hard time seeing Christensen on the team next year unless he can somehow get to 184. He has no spot if Amos lives up to the hype. I'd love to see him stay especially for depth, but I just don't see it.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Brncrzy189 on February 22, 2021, 04:07:03 PM
Christensen is not making 184. He would have always had a tough time doing so, and beginning this year at HWT makes it easy to presume they feel his best chance of success is likely at that weight class (Or, at least, continuing to develop his body to where he would be a big 97). If you take a look at the pic of Thor and Pete on Pete's IG from August 2019, Pete is taller and may even have a slightly thicker frame.

Interesting thing for 2022 lineup is would Weiler consider staying another season? If so, do they have the scholarships available to do so with Wick and Amos back in the lineup?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 13, 2021, 12:23:23 AM
Christensen is not making 184. He would have always had a tough time doing so, and beginning this year at HWT makes it easy to presume they feel his best chance of success is likely at that weight class (Or, at least, continuing to develop his body to where he would be a big 97). If you take a look at the pic of Thor and Pete on Pete's IG from August 2019, Pete is taller and may even have a slightly thicker frame.

Interesting thing for 2022 lineup is would Weiler consider staying another season? If so, do they have the scholarships available to do so with Wick and Amos back in the lineup?

If the Badgers could get Weiler back for 10th year (joking) that would help the line up a lot and make is interesting
125 Barnett (J)           Rotundo (se)
133 Burwick (So)        Denito (J)
141 Zargo (F)             Escobar (So)
149 Scharenbrock (J) Medora (So)
157 Model (Se)          Bahr (Se)
165 ?Wick? (Se)        Hamiti (F)
174 Kratty (J) or Otto (So) or Dow (J)
184 Weiler (super SE) Otto (So)
197 Amos (F)             Christensen (So) or Salemme (J)
hwy Hillger (Se)         Compass (F)

Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: BackwardsHatAttack on March 13, 2021, 12:28:17 AM
Christensen is not making 184. He would have always had a tough time doing so, and beginning this year at HWT makes it easy to presume they feel his best chance of success is likely at that weight class (Or, at least, continuing to develop his body to where he would be a big 97). If you take a look at the pic of Thor and Pete on Pete's IG from August 2019, Pete is taller and may even have a slightly thicker frame.

Interesting thing for 2022 lineup is would Weiler consider staying another season? If so, do they have the scholarships available to do so with Wick and Amos back in the lineup?

If the Badgers could get Weiler back for 10th year (joking) that would help the line up a lot and make is interesting
125 Barnett (J)           Rotundo (se)
133 Burwick (So)        Denito (J)
141 Zargo (F)             Escobar (So)
149 Scharenbrock (J) Medora (So)
157 Model (Se)          Bahr (Se)
165 ?Wick? (Se)        Hamiti (F)
174 Kratty (J) or Otto (So) or Dow (J)
184 Weiler (super SE) Otto (So)
197 Amos (F)             Christensen (So) or Salemme (J)
hwy Hillger (Se)         Compass (F)

A few thoughts..Otto to 184?  Lol. And who are Denito, Hillger, Compass?  Couldnít find those last names on the roster. 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 13, 2021, 12:38:07 PM
Here is my current projection:

125 Eric Barnett / Ethan Rotondo (Maybe a Barnett redshirt)
133 Kyle Burwick / Cole Bavery (RS)
141 Joey Zargo / Dom Dentino / Trey Escobar
149 Drew Scharenbrock / Dan Stilling (RS) / Aiden Medora (RS) / Cole Carroll (RS)
157 Garrett Model / Devin Bahr / Kevin Meicher / Cody Anderson (RS) (Bahr is very good for a backup)
165 Evan Wick / Josh Otto / Gavin Model (RS) Dean Hamiti (RS)
174 Jared Krattiger / Anders Lantz
184 Tyler Dow / Graham Calhoun (RS)
197 Braxton Amos / Andrew Salemme / Brooks Empey (RS)
285 Trent Hillger / Pete Christensen / Hayden Copass (RS)

High number of projected redshirts next season because of not using a year this season and the double freshman class

Redshirt Sr's that can return - Weiler, Spray, Vosters. Will wait to hear whether they plan to return.

Hamiti and Copass are very good, but are projected behind Wick and Hillger.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 13, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
IMO, I have a hard time seeing Christensen on the team next year unless he can somehow get to 184. He has no spot if Amos lives up to the hype. I'd love to see him stay especially for depth, but I just don't see it.

I been hearing christenson is weighing in at 230 so I doubt 184 is a choice. I would bet he is HWT next year.

I like the line up for sure if that is going be the guys on the team!
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 13, 2021, 05:40:15 PM
IMO, I have a hard time seeing Christensen on the team next year unless he can somehow get to 184. He has no spot if Amos lives up to the hype. I'd love to see him stay especially for depth, but I just don't see it.

I been hearing christenson is weighing in at 230 so I doubt 184 is a choice. I would bet he is HWT next year.

I like the line up for sure if that is going be the guys on the team!

I have heard the same thing with Peter and thinking he would be moved to HWY or transfers out with another good level guy coming in in Copass
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 13, 2021, 05:43:39 PM
for the spelling police ;D
125 Barnett (J)           Rotundo (se)
133 Burwick (So)        Dentino (J)
141 Zargo (F)             Escobar (So)
149 Scharenbrock (J) Medora (So)
157 Model (Se)          Bahr (Se)
165 ?Wick? (Se)        Hamiti (F)
174 Kratty (J) or Otto (So) or Dow (J)
184 Weiler super SE or Kratty (J) or Dow (J)
197 Amos (F)             Christensen (So) or Salemme (J)
hwy Hillger (Se)         Copass (F)
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 13, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
Here is my current projection:

125 Eric Barnett / Ethan Rotondo (Maybe a Barnett redshirt)
133 Kyle Burwick / Cole Bavery (RS)
141 Joey Zargo / Dom Dentino / Trey Escobar
149 Drew Scharenbrock / Dan Stilling (RS) / Aiden Medora (RS) / Cole Carroll (RS)
157 Garrett Model / Devin Bahr / Kevin Meicher / Cody Anderson (RS) (Bahr is very good for a backup)
165 Evan Wick / Josh Otto / Gavin Model (RS) Dean Hamiti (RS)
174 Jared Krattiger / Anders Lantz
184 Tyler Dow / Graham Calhoun (RS)
197 Braxton Amos / Andrew Salemme / Brook Empey (RS)
285 Trent Hillger / Pete Christensen / Hayden Copass (RS)

High number of projected redshirts next season because of not using a year this season and the double freshman class

Redshirt Sr's that can return - Weiler, Spray, Vosters. Will wait to hear whether they plan to return.

Hamiti and Copass are very good, but are projected behind Wick and Hillger.

WWF, that is a line that could produce some good wins and some that I think the Badgers would be favored in many match ups, Barnett; Burwick; Wick; Amos; Hillger and throw in some wins with Kratty and Model and Dow has won some plus maybe a surprise or two out of 41 and 49. could be a fun year. Put Weiler in and then another favored most matches if we make the assumption the guys get healthy. 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 14, 2021, 12:57:50 PM
Here is another to think about

Barnett
Burwick
Zargo
Sharenbrock
Model
Otto
Krattiger
Dow
Salemme
Christenson

I dont know where the depth chart is at so I will not speculate. I believe the wrestlers mentioned above will be in the Badger singlet next year. I certainly hope wrestlers like Wick, Hamiti and Amos are in the room but at this point they arent even officially at the UW.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 14, 2021, 02:59:03 PM
That is certainly a negative outlook for next year. That team would be bad, but it simply doesnt make sense to not include your 4 best wrestlers.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 14, 2021, 03:48:49 PM
That is certainly a negative outlook for next year. That team would be bad, but it simply doesnt make sense to not include your 4 best wrestlers.

Just looking at what we know as wrestlers that are actually in the room. Wick has been training all around and I hear he is in the AWA room coaching a bit. Hamiti has been wrestling for the Sunkist kids and that is out of the ASU room. Amos I hear has been training out east at times. So those mentioned haven't been actually in the badger room and while I sound negative I am only using wrestlers that I know are actually enrolled. Like I said I certainly hope all 3 are in the line up next year. I also forgot about Hilger who I also hope is back next year. Not being negative just working with what we actually have
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 14, 2021, 04:18:11 PM
Well if Wick, Amos, Hillger, Hamiti and Weiler are all not on the roster next year, I would assume the coaching staff is not either. 

Transfers happen, or wrestlers decide to do something else, so it wouldn't surprise me if 1 or 2 ended up not wrestling next year, but making a roster with none of them seems like a waste of time.  If they are all gone, it would essentially be starting over from scratch and Bono's first 3 years were a waste.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: matrat86 on March 14, 2021, 04:50:41 PM
That is certainly a negative outlook for next year. That team would be bad, but it simply doesnt make sense to not include your 4 best wrestlers.

Just looking at what we know as wrestlers that are actually in the room. Wick has been training all around and I hear he is in the AWA room coaching a bit. Hamiti has been wrestling for the Sunkist kids and that is out of the ASU room. Amos I hear has been training out east at times. So those mentioned haven't been actually in the badger room and while I sound negative I am only using wrestlers that I know are actually enrolled. Like I said I certainly hope all 3 are in the line up next year. I also forgot about Hilger who I also hope is back next year. Not being negative just working with what we actually have

On the RTCís Rokfin they posted an interview with Amos a few days ago. From watching that post, it looks like heís in Madison training. You also do realize, Gross and Heaton both compete under the Sunkist name?

This post is almost like saying, I saw your wife talking to another man at church, so she must be cheating.

Unless you know something the rest of us donít know, Iíd say your post is almost like throwing spaghetti on the wall and hoping it is al dente.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: 2TD3NF on March 14, 2021, 05:07:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wick move up to 174.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 14, 2021, 05:54:13 PM
That is certainly a negative outlook for next year. That team would be bad, but it simply doesnt make sense to not include your 4 best wrestlers.

Just looking at what we know as wrestlers that are actually in the room. Wick has been training all around and I hear he is in the AWA room coaching a bit. Hamiti has been wrestling for the Sunkist kids and that is out of the ASU room. Amos I hear has been training out east at times. So those mentioned haven't been actually in the badger room and while I sound negative I am only using wrestlers that I know are actually enrolled. Like I said I certainly hope all 3 are in the line up next year. I also forgot about Hilger who I also hope is back next year. Not being negative just working with what we actually have

On the RTCís Rokfin they posted an interview with Amos a few days ago. From watching that post, it looks like heís in Madison training. You also do realize, Gross and Heaton both compete under the Sunkist name?

This post is almost like saying, I saw your wife talking to another man at church, so she must be cheating.

Unless you know something the rest of us donít know, Iíd say your post is almost like throwing spaghetti on the wall and hoping it is al dente.

Not saying anything. Just looking at this years roster and figuring out the starters for next year. Also pointing out where people are training at times. I realize that gross wrestles for Sunkist kid. Is gross out training at ASU also like Hamiti? Dang, some people just get all worked up about really nothing. One can only speculate for next year. I used my speculation on wrestlers that are actually enrolled in school and on the team. Like I stated before I certainly hope those 3 we are talking about will be on the team next but until they step foot into the room or campus it is only speculation. I know nothing about the inner workings or anything. So no gossip either.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: PAUL on March 14, 2021, 06:34:02 PM
Who was my wife talking to??   
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: npope on March 14, 2021, 06:38:28 PM
I can see where hammer is coming from - could happen - but it would be akin to the wheels falling off the cart for Bono. So, given that it is acknowledged as just speculation I too would just take it for what it is...a bad dream. But I would be lying if I said I hadn't had some of those same thoughts...just not all of them at the same time.

Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: BuckyMatt on March 14, 2021, 09:54:32 PM
So every recruit, every athlete taking a redshirt, every athlete taking a grey shirt, and every athlete taking a Olympic redshirt, shouldnít be couldnít in next years lineup, for any college? For any sport?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 15, 2021, 01:31:00 AM
So every recruit, every athlete taking a redshirt, every athlete taking a grey shirt, and every athlete taking a Olympic redshirt, shouldnít be couldnít in next years lineup, for any college? For any sport?

Never said that at all. Wick isnt at school, correct. Amos and Hamiti havent enrolled at Madison yet due to Hamiti is still a high schooler and Amos is on a grey? Shirt year if I am correct. So is Wick thought of as a red shirt, grey shirt or Olympic year? Also outside of grey shirt I believe you can still go to college, correct. Dang people loosen up a bit on this. Just a simple post as to what the Badger have in their room this year to speculate about. Look at the title of the thread! Who knows the Badgers may pull in a monster transfer for next year that will make the lineup tough as nails. Anyone want to say that right now. Between now and next Novemeber alot can change but the one thing is we know who is in the room right now. I dont have a reason as to why the 3 we talk about wouldn't be enrolled in school next year and be on the team.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 15, 2021, 02:51:13 AM
If you go look at the twitter accounts of each of the new recruits they are all still coming to Wisconsin.  I think they are all excited to be a part of something big next year and realize they are the nucleus of the team going forward.

Joey Zargo ,Dean Hamiti , Braxton Amos, and Hayden Copass are going to fill in some huge gaps in the line up next year.  Remember those names!  These are high level recruits and Badger fans should be excited.  I am happy they have all found places to train in this crazy covid year. 

If Wick and Weiler come back, this will be a very strong team.  As I said before, I think Wick is going to be super tough next year and I can't wait to see him back in a Badger singlet.  He is a HUGE fan favorite and a team leader.  He is wrestling at a very high level right now.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 15, 2021, 09:58:27 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Wick move up to 174.
Think he would do well at 174, but would make for an interesting move for the lineup. Otto at 165? Could Krattiger make it or does he try to move to 184? Does Hamiti go 165? I thought he would more likely be a 57.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 15, 2021, 12:10:43 PM
So every recruit, every athlete taking a redshirt, every athlete taking a grey shirt, and every athlete taking a Olympic redshirt, shouldnít be couldnít in next years lineup, for any college? For any sport?

Never said that at all. Wick isnt at school, correct. Amos and Hamiti havent enrolled at Madison yet due to Hamiti is still a high schooler and Amos is on a grey? Shirt year if I am correct. So is Wick thought of as a red shirt, grey shirt or Olympic year? Also outside of grey shirt I believe you can still go to college, correct. Dang people loosen up a bit on this. Just a simple post as to what the Badger have in their room this year to speculate about. Look at the title of the thread! Who knows the Badgers may pull in a monster transfer for next year that will make the lineup tough as nails. Anyone want to say that right now. Between now and next Novemeber alot can change but the one thing is we know who is in the room right now. I dont have a reason as to why the 3 we talk about wouldn't be enrolled in school next year and be on the team.

+1!
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 15, 2021, 12:11:34 PM
If you go look at the twitter accounts of each of the new recruits they are all still coming to Wisconsin.  I think they are all excited to be a part of something big next year and realize they are the nucleus of the team going forward.

Joey Zargo ,Dean Hamiti , Braxton Amos, and Hayden Copass are going to fill in some huge gaps in the line up next year.  Remember those names!  These are high level recruits and Badger fans should be excited.  I am happy they have all found places to train in this crazy covid year. 

If Wick and Weiler come back, this will be a very strong team.  As I said before, I think Wick is going to be super tough next year and I can't wait to see him back in a Badger singlet.  He is a HUGE fan favorite and a team leader.  He is wrestling at a very high level right now.


Agree!
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: heavy9278 on March 15, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
Joey Zargo ,Dean Hamiti , Braxton Amos, and Hayden Copass all signed NLI
I would assume if they were not coming they would have to be released from that and would be big news on FLO
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 15, 2021, 03:25:03 PM
Joey Zargo ,Dean Hamiti , Braxton Amos, and Hayden Copass all signed NLI
I would assume if they were not coming they would have to be released from that and would be big news on FLO
How dare you assume that kids who all signed NLI are actually coming to the school they signed with.
No mention of any of these wrestlers on a Flo article from today.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6883842-2021-ncaa-d1-transfer-tracker

These are HS kids, but they seem pretty committed to me lol  ::)
https://twitter.com/thebraxtonamos?lang=en
https://twitter.com/hdino42?lang=en
https://twitter.com/copass59?lang=en
https://twitter.com/joseph_zargo?lang=en
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: PAUL on March 15, 2021, 07:41:32 PM
Harris for Governor, or Senator, or President! 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 15, 2021, 08:33:01 PM
Harris for Governor, or Senator, or President!

No Thanks  :)
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: BuckyMatt on March 16, 2021, 12:05:20 PM
Great Bono interview of Evan Wick about his Olympic Gap year and what he's looking forward to next year!

https://rokfin.com/post/34591?fbclid=IwAR17LVahDTeTK9v3clKXjP95gd8r_Dqymk5FnAM-9IaIIG9HcSaATBM34oM
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 16, 2021, 12:46:23 PM
That's what I'm talking about!  Great interview to put the gossip to rest.  This gap year has been awesome for his development and you can see it when you watch him wrestle.  I love how he said he has one more shot and he wants to make it count.  Very exciting.  Thanks for posting BuckyMatt. 

Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 16, 2021, 12:48:55 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: matrat86 on March 16, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.

Rumor has it Wick will be competing in a couple weeks at 74 kilograms. If my middle school education taught me right, that equates to 162.5 pounds. If my 8th grade teacher failed me here, I guess itís time for me to tuck my tail between my legs and move to Minnesota.

If you want to check my math like she did, here it is.

74kg x 2.2lbs = 162.5 pounds
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 16, 2021, 01:20:42 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.

Rumor has it Wick will be competing in a couple weeks at 74 kilograms. If my middle school education taught me right, that equates to 162.5 pounds. If my 8th grade teacher failed me here, I guess itís time for me to tuck my tail between my legs and move to Minnesota.

If you want to check my math like she did, here it is.

74kg x 2.2lbs = 162.5 pounds

Your math looks good to me  :) 

I was referencing next year based on some posts earlier in the thread.  I was hoping to hear if he has to cut a lot to make that weight.  Some guys walking around weight is 20 lbs over.  Wick looks like he could step on the scale right now and make 165 which is good for his upcoming competition.  Just trying to visualize what next years lineup will look like.

Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 16, 2021, 01:48:16 PM
I believe he never had to cut much weight and he always had a difficult time putting on weight to get bigger.  I would be surprised if he grew enough to be a full sized 174 by next year.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: BuckyMatt on March 16, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.

Rumor has it Wick will be competing in a couple weeks at 74 kilograms. If my middle school education taught me right, that equates to 162.5 pounds. If my 8th grade teacher failed me here, I guess itís time for me to tuck my tail between my legs and move to Minnesota.

If you want to check my math like she did, here it is.

74kg x 2.2lbs = 162.5 pounds

Did you say Move???  If you live anywhere in Wisconsin, don't forget to use the Wrestling Realtor Matt Deadman so part of that money goes back to the RTC ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: bigoil on March 16, 2021, 03:22:14 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.

Rumor has it Wick will be competing in a couple weeks at 74 kilograms. If my middle school education taught me right, that equates to 162.5 pounds. If my 8th grade teacher failed me here, I guess itís time for me to tuck my tail between my legs and move to Minnesota.

If you want to check my math like she did, here it is.

74kg x 2.2lbs = 162.5 pounds

Your math looks good to me  :) 

I was referencing next year based on some posts earlier in the thread.  I was hoping to hear if he has to cut a lot to make that weight.  Some guys walking around weight is 20 lbs over.  Wick looks like he could step on the scale right now and make 165 which is good for his upcoming competition.  Just trying to visualize what next years lineup will look like.
I believe early on he wasn't dropping much but I recall reading last year he was up to about 10# over, given his frame, that seems very comfortable vs what may be more normal of 20#.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 16, 2021, 08:48:53 PM
Evan still looks like a 165 to me.  I wish Bono had asked him about that.

Rumor has it Wick will be competing in a couple weeks at 74 kilograms. If my middle school education taught me right, that equates to 162.5 pounds. If my 8th grade teacher failed me here, I guess itís time for me to tuck my tail between my legs and move to Minnesota.

If you want to check my math like she did, here it is.

74kg x 2.2lbs = 162.5 pounds

SO can he get to 57 ;D
Just kidding, this is great news to firm up. Let's see what other pieces fall into place
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 16, 2021, 09:17:43 PM
This year was rough but we knew that coming into the season with Covid.  I am still very hopeful with our 4 NCAA qualifiers this week and would love to see them end the season on a positive note.

I think the lineup below looks great for next year.  I put Weiler in there for wishful thinking.  I apologize if I forgot anyone or have incorrect weights or accomplishments.  This team will be very competitive in duals and tournaments and is a great foundation for the future.  I think Bono, Reader and Gross have done a great job putting the pieces in place.  I also think the experience some of the younger wrestlers got this year will make the room tougher next year which is a good thing.  Let's go!

125 Eric Barnett (NCAA Qualifier), Ethan Rotondo
133 Kyle Burwick (NCAA Qualifier), Cole Bavery
141 Joey Zargo (FloNationals Champion), Dominic Dentino (Current starter), Trey Escobar, Dan Stilling
149 Drew Scharenbrock (Current starter), Cody Anderson, Aiden Medora, Kevin Meicher, Cole Carroll (New Recruit from New Jersey)
157 Garrett Model (Current starter) or D.J. Hamiti (Super 32 Champion, Fargo National Champion), Devin Bahr, Patrick Spray (Graduating Senior?)
165 Evan Wick (3X NCAA All-American), Josh Otto (Current starter), Gavin Model, Seth Vosters (Graduating Senior?)
174 Jared Krattiger (Current starter) or Tyler Dow, Anders Lantz, Graham Calhoun (New Recruit from Indiana)
184 Chris Weiler (3X NCAA Qualifier) or Tyler Dow
197 Braxton Amos (3X Super 32 Champion, 5X Fargo National Champion), Peter Christensen, Andrew Salemme (Current starter)
285 Trent Hillger (3X NCAA Qualifier, All-American) or Hayden Copass (Super 32 Champion, 2X Fargo National Champion), Brooks Empey (New Recruit from Stoughton, WI)
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 16, 2021, 10:01:05 PM
I think we all could get pretty excited about that line up!
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 16, 2021, 10:26:04 PM
Not much has been said about Zargo lately.  He was injured last year and has had somewhat mixed results this year in limited action.  He was fairly highly ranked and many thought he had a high ceiling in college as he is good at getting to guys legs.  Not sure how much this COVID year plus the injury last year hurt his growth, but it would be a nice surprise if he was ready to be a top 20 wrestler next year already.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrestlemania on March 16, 2021, 10:37:30 PM
"That's what I'm talking about!  Great interview to put the gossip to rest.  This gap year has been awesome for his development and you can see it when you watch him wrestle.  I love how he said he has one more shot and he wants to make it count.  Very exciting.  Thanks for posting BuckyMatt."

This is indeed good news and this is coming from a well-rehearsed skeptic. This is the first good, HARD sign, barring nothing else, Wick will be back next season.

Wisconsin can have a very good team if the line-up works out to what we hope it will be (including having Weiler back as well). But as anyone who has followed UW wrestling will tell you, all our best hopes have never worked out either because of injuries, transfers, ineligibilities, or just plain bad luck or what have you.  Keep your fingers crossed and hope by next fall for once in this program's snakebit history all the pieces can fall into place. 


125 Eric Barnett (NCAA Qualifier), Ethan Rotondo
133 Kyle Burwick (NCAA Qualifier), Cole Bavery
141 Joey Zargo (FloNationals Champion), Dominic Dentino (Current starter), Trey Escobar, Dan Stilling
149 Drew Scharenbrock (Current starter), Devin Bahr, Cody Anderson, Aiden Medora, Kevin Meicher, Cole Carroll (New Recruit from New Jersey)
157 Garrett Model (Current starter) or D.J. Hamiti (Super 32 Champion, Fargo National Champion), Patrick Spray (Graduating Senior?)
165 Evan Wick (3X NCAA All-American), Josh Otto (Current starter), Gavin Model, Seth Vosters (Graduating Senior?)
174 Jared Krattiger (Current starter) or Tyler Dow, Anders Lantz, Graham Calhoun (New Recruit from Indiana)
184 Chris Weiler (3X NCAA Qualifier) or Tyler Dow
197 Braxton Amos (3X Super 32 Champion, 5X Fargo National Champion), Peter Christensen, Andrew Salemme (Current starter)
285 Trent Hillger (3X NCAA Qualifier, All-American) or Hayden Copass (Super 32 Champion, 2X Fargo National Champion), Brooks Empey (New Recruit from Stoughton, WI)


Yeah I hope it's like this too.  Good numbers, good talent.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: vsmf2010 on March 17, 2021, 12:05:58 PM
Not much has been said about Zargo lately.  He was injured last year and has had somewhat mixed results this year in limited action.  He was fairly highly ranked and many thought he had a high ceiling in college as he is good at getting to guys legs.  Not sure how much this COVID year plus the injury last year hurt his growth, but it would be a nice surprise if he was ready to be a top 20 wrestler next year already.

Interesting you brought that up. I was thinking of Joey Zargo the other day and went back and re-watched his matches from the Junior Nationals from November. He had some nice wins (including a tech of Joey Bianchi) and ended up losing in the blood round so he was top 12. Very tough bracket with a lot of high end wrestlers and recruits. For some perspective Bryce Andonian (NCAA 6 seed at 149) was 2nd and Sammy Alvarez was 5th. Also recall that Joey was beating Dean Hamiti 6-0 before being cradled and pinned at the 2019 Cadet World Team Trials. Definitely would be expecting him to big a regular in the line up for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 17, 2021, 12:10:48 PM
Not much has been said about Zargo lately.  He was injured last year and has had somewhat mixed results this year in limited action.  He was fairly highly ranked and many thought he had a high ceiling in college as he is good at getting to guys legs.  Not sure how much this COVID year plus the injury last year hurt his growth, but it would be a nice surprise if he was ready to be a top 20 wrestler next year already.

Interesting you brought that up. I was thinking of Joey Zargo the other day and went back and re-watched his matches from the Junior Nationals from November. He had some nice wins (including a tech of Joey Bianchi) and ended up losing in the blood round so he was top 12. Very tough bracket with a lot of high end wrestlers and recruits. For some perspective Bryce Andonian (NCAA 6 seed at 149) was 2nd and Sammy Alvarez was 5th. Also recall that Joey was beating Dean Hamiti 6-0 before being cradled and pinned at the 2019 Cadet World Team Trials. Definitely would be expecting him to big a regular in the line up for the next 4 years.
Zargo has also wrestled McCrystal very tough. McCrystal was a very solid and highly ranked 149 while in college. I am sure like almost every freshman he is making some adjustments, but I agree with the thought that he will be a regular in the lineup. He has done a great job of getting to legs in the underground matches just needs to work on finishing and he has a great pace.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Handles II on March 17, 2021, 12:46:28 PM
I'm curious, realistically, when we are saying we will be "very tough" or whatever, what does that mean?
Would we be in the top 50% of the Big 10 in duals? In the tournament? Both?
#1 and #2 are pretty much locked up by Iowa and Penn St.  I read recently that Penn has four #1 ranked HS recruits coming in, plus others in the top 5. They are going to be up there for the long haul.
IMO...
Nebraska (big improvments this year) Ohio State, Michigan are probably 3-5. Ohio had an uncharacteristic down year, but has plenty returning that are taking a redshirt.
Minnesota, Illinios, and Michigan St. 6-8

Where do we realistically fit? Who of these will we be definitively better than?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 17, 2021, 01:03:37 PM
I'm curious, realistically, when we are saying we will be "very tough" or whatever, what does that mean?
Would we be in the top 50% of the Big 10 in duals? In the tournament? Both?
#1 and #2 are pretty much locked up by Iowa and Penn St.  I read recently that Penn has four #1 ranked HS recruits coming in, plus others in the top 5. They are going to be up there for the long haul.
IMO...
Nebraska (big improvments this year) Ohio State, Michigan are probably 3-5. Ohio had an uncharacteristic down year, but has plenty returning that are taking a redshirt.
Minnesota, Illinios, and Michigan St. 6-8

Where do we realistically fit? Who of these will we be definitively better than?
They have 1 guy who got hurt. He would have been at 165 where they have  Ethan Smith not that big of a difference. We have for sure 2 very high level guys and their replacements  went 0-17. HUGE point differential in duals, Big Ten tourney, and especially NCAAs.
You also talk about how Nebraska made big improvements, but we almost beat them head to head in a dual with this current team.  ::)
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 17, 2021, 02:01:17 PM
I'm curious, realistically, when we are saying we will be "very tough" or whatever, what does that mean?
Would we be in the top 50% of the Big 10 in duals? In the tournament? Both?
#1 and #2 are pretty much locked up by Iowa and Penn St.  I read recently that Penn has four #1 ranked HS recruits coming in, plus others in the top 5. They are going to be up there for the long haul.
IMO...
Nebraska (big improvments this year) Ohio State, Michigan are probably 3-5. Ohio had an uncharacteristic down year, but has plenty returning that are taking a redshirt.
Minnesota, Illinios, and Michigan St. 6-8

Where do we realistically fit? Who of these will we be definitively better than?

Wick can beat anyone at 165 this year including Marinelli at Iowa.  Not saying he wins them all, but he has the talent to beat any one of them.  Hamiti will have one year in the room with Wick and his potential is awesome as well if he doesn't start next year.  I really think he could push Model as well next year if he can make 157.  I love that WI will have some guys like Hamiti and Copass in the room to push this years starters.

Amos is right up there at 197 as well in my opinion and I can't wait to see him wrestle Amine from Michigan and Schultz from Nebraska.  He just beat a top 10 senior level guy who was an NCAA runner up.  Based on what he has done at the high school, Cadet, Junior and Senior level, he should be something special.  This guy is the real deal and the type of person you want to build your program around.

Hillger and Weiler have proven they can be top 8 guys and Copass is coming as well.

125 is wide open after Spencer Lee from Iowa.  Barnett is improving and I believe has the talent, drive, and work ethic to All American in the next 2 years.  133 is similar.  RBY at Penn State and Desanto at Iowa are top level but after that it opens up quite a bit.  I could see Burwick making strides as well.  You have to remember, both of these guys are now working with Seth Gross.  I expect to keep seeing improvement in their wrestling.  Slot in Zargo who has a lot of upside who will be working with Gross as well and we have a tough set of light weights.  I can't wait to see what Gross can do as a coach.

Make no mistake, this team will be better next year and has the potential to be top 5 in the Big Ten if everyone stays healthy and the young guys keep improving.  I know a lot of people are down this year and I have felt that way as well but help is coming from some very high level recruits.  Yes it will be very hard to jump above Iowa, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska and Ohio State but I could see Wisconsin closing the gap tremendously.  I think we look very comparable to a Michigan, Ohio State or Nebraska next year if things progress as planned.

If Bono can pull in one more high level transfer for next year we could really see some fireworks as well!  Anything is possible.  With Gross working with the light weights and Reader handling the big guys, this team will get better.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 17, 2021, 02:12:59 PM
Just a reminder of who is coming. 

https://uwbadgers.com/news/2020/11/16/wrestling-badgers-welcomes-new-wrestlers-for-2021.aspx (https://uwbadgers.com/news/2020/11/16/wrestling-badgers-welcomes-new-wrestlers-for-2021.aspx)
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: bigoil on March 17, 2021, 02:29:16 PM
Top 10 in the nation, top 5 in the big 10 are definitely achievable results for UW, especially in duals, tournaments are so dominated by top end talent, the verdict would still be out on how the points add up but I'd still expect it to be in that range if they get a transfer that  based on history that might shore up a spot or two if we can talk Crazyhorse Weiler to come back for one more year.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on March 21, 2021, 12:54:12 PM
This was posted by Tom in another thread.  Read these Bono quotes carefully to get some insight into next year.  Looks like Hillger had an illness or injury and Weiler is coming back.

Trent Hillger:

"What can I say about Trent?" said Wisconsin head coach Chris Bono. "Everyone wrote him off early, he needs to heal up! He competed with such grit this weekend, I could not be more proud of him.

"A three-time All-American, placing sixth this year, his highest placing ever in this tournament. He is a leader on this team! I can't wait for next year with Trent."

Chris Weiler:

"Chris had a disappointing NCAA tourney this year, but has the potential and talent to be an All-American," said Bono. "He needs to heal up and get ready to make a run at it next year. He has been a great addition to the team this year."
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 21, 2021, 04:39:19 PM
Good to see Weiler might be coming back next year. I think he was pretty hurt at the end of the year and if healthy, can be an AA candidate.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Metalman on March 21, 2021, 07:58:01 PM
Christianson outweighs Hillger 25 pounds. It will be a stretch for him to make 197.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 21, 2021, 08:44:41 PM
Christianson outweighs Hillger 25 pounds. It will be a stretch for him to make 197.

Where did you hear he was 25# heavier? Not sure I heard he was there but true that it would be very tough for him to get down to 97. Amos will take that weight from everyone I talk with.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 21, 2021, 11:22:58 PM
Christianson outweighs Hillger 25 pounds. It will be a stretch for him to make 197.

I could believe 25 pounds on Amos.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Army Ant on March 29, 2021, 11:03:29 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 30, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Army Ant on March 30, 2021, 12:40:53 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.

Didnt mean that literally. My point is that the badgers wont improve as much as they otherwise would compared to everybody else because few wrestlers are leaving. Mist other teams will also improve.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 30, 2021, 04:14:24 PM
It will be interesting to see how many come back for their 5th, 6th or 7th years.

Not a simple decision health and career wise.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 30, 2021, 04:53:51 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.

Didnt mean that literally. My point is that the badgers wont improve as much as they otherwise would compared to everybody else because few wrestlers are leaving. Mist other teams will also improve.
Ah ok. Yea a lot of teams won't be losing much, but I don't think any team in the nation will be bringing in the points that the Badgers will with Wick and Amos plus other potential changes. 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 30, 2021, 06:37:43 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.

Didnt mean that literally. My point is that the badgers wont improve as much as they otherwise would compared to everybody else because few wrestlers are leaving. Mist other teams will also improve.
Ah ok. Yea a lot of teams won't be losing much, but I don't think any team in the nation will be bringing in the points that the Badgers will with Wick and Amos plus other potential changes.

You could be right though.......what ever team lands Shane Griffin might beg to differ and what if that same team lands another Stanford wrestler. Remember their are some teams that have champs sitting out still......Cornell,  Michigan to name a quick couple.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: DarkKnight on March 30, 2021, 06:41:01 PM
Next year will be fun when it comes.

I'm not going to get all hopped up and too crazy about.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: tigerking on March 30, 2021, 07:09:13 PM
Rumor at the Shack in Stratford is Gavin Drexler is going to become a Badger. Great kid. Great Family. Future All-American for the Badgers. Geaux Tigers.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on March 30, 2021, 07:17:12 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.

Didnt mean that literally. My point is that the badgers wont improve as much as they otherwise would compared to everybody else because few wrestlers are leaving. Mist other teams will also improve.
Ah ok. Yea a lot of teams won't be losing much, but I don't think any team in the nation will be bringing in the points that the Badgers will with Wick and Amos plus other potential changes.

You could be right though.......what ever team lands Shane Griffin might beg to differ and what if that same team lands another Stanford wrestler. Remember their are some teams that have champs sitting out still......Cornell,  Michigan to name a quick couple.
Cornellís whole team was out. They didnít have anyone sitting out. Michigan doesnít have any champs sitting out. Wick and Amos >Griffith
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: hammer on March 30, 2021, 08:33:24 PM
Remember all the other teams are returning everybody also.
Not true. Not everyone is returning. Many guys will be moving on to their careers.

Didnt mean that literally. My point is that the badgers wont improve as much as they otherwise would compared to everybody else because few wrestlers are leaving. Mist other teams will also improve.
Ah ok. Yea a lot of teams won't be losing much, but I don't think any team in the nation will be bringing in the points that the Badgers will with Wick and Amos plus other potential changes.

You could be right though.......what ever team lands Shane Griffin might beg to differ and what if that same team lands another Stanford wrestler. Remember their are some teams that have champs sitting out still......Cornell,  Michigan to name a quick couple.
Cornellís whole team was out. They didnít have anyone sitting out. Michigan doesnít have any champs sitting out. Wick and Amos >Griffith

I was under the impression Steven Micic had another year but what would be be in age, 25ish? What I was trying to say is Cornell probably will have the most points coming back next year due to they didn't compete last year. Another team to take into account. I agree Wisconsin has some serious points coming back but with the transfer portal with so many names could help some one big time maybe Wisconsin! I think a Shane Griffin would be a huge point pick up for any team. What does he have that Wick and Amos dont have yet??
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on March 30, 2021, 10:37:09 PM
Rumor at the Shack in Stratford is Gavin Drexler is going to become a Badger. Great kid. Great Family. Future All-American for the Badgers. Geaux Tigers.

That would be good to hear. How has he done in national tournaments against other future college wrestlers?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Army Ant on April 03, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
Hope badgers can start keeping most of the top in-state talent. Glad to see OToole, Kekesian and Buchanen AA this year but that's more than what the Badgers had. I heard grades had something to do with why one of them didnt get into wi though so you can only do so much....
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: wrastle63 on April 04, 2021, 09:36:21 PM
Based on how OTT went have to feel even better about next season with Amos and Wick. Wick beat some very solid competitors including some that he has lost to in the past! Would have liked to have seen Braxton wrestle more freestyle but completely understand why he didn't.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Ghetto on April 05, 2021, 12:17:08 AM
Really excited about Wisconsin wrestling after this weekend. Great job by all the young men and women associated with the Badgers and the RTC.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: tigerking on April 07, 2021, 03:24:59 PM
Rumor at the Shack in Stratford is Gavin Drexler is going to become a Badger. Great kid. Great Family. Future All-American for the Badgers. Geaux Tigers.

That would be good to hear. How has he done in national tournaments against other future college wrestlers?

Went 10-0 at USAW Club Duals in the Preseason and beat Jack Severin 12-6.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: tigerking on April 08, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
Has anyone put Max Dean in the Badgers projected line up for next year?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on April 08, 2021, 02:24:52 PM
Has anyone put Max Dean in the Badgers projected line up for next year?

Max Dean would be a great addition to any team. 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: mkm13 on April 08, 2021, 02:40:50 PM
Might as well bring Gabe Dean as well to the WRTC to train with Braxton. 
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: Harris on April 08, 2021, 03:40:24 PM
Might as well bring Gabe Dean as well to the WRTC to train with Braxton.

That would be awesome.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: bigG on April 09, 2021, 12:10:58 PM
Be a huge get. Man, that would lift some spirits.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: walden_hiker on April 09, 2021, 04:03:01 PM
Has anyone put Max Dean in the Badgers projected line up for next year?

Word is they are looking to head back home to one of the Michigan schools.
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: digimon on April 11, 2021, 08:20:13 AM
Like the title states: "Too Early to" tell
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: heart123 on April 11, 2021, 09:32:40 AM
Thought krattinger was in transfer pool?
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on April 11, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
Thought krattinger was in transfer pool?

He is. I think everyone needs to pull him out and put up new way too early line up projections
Title: Re: way too early 2021-2022 line up
Post by: dad 2 5 on April 11, 2021, 03:36:22 PM
maybe:

125 Barnett (J)           Rotundo (se)
133 Burwick (So)        Dentino (J)
141 Zargo (F)             Escobar (So)
149 Scharenbrock (J) Medora (So)
157 Model (Se)          Bahr (Se)
165 Wick (Se)        Hamiti (F)
174 Otto (So) or Dow (J)
184 Weiler super SE or Dow (J)
197 Amos (F)             ?Christensen (So)? or Salemme (J)
hwy Hillger (Se)         Copass (F)

I am think we see a transfer or two yet that will change this, Hopefully transfer in not out