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Title: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: leg turk on November 14, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
What teams are we wrestling in this tri dual?
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: crossface21 on November 14, 2017, 11:49:12 AM
Pitt and CS-Bakersfield
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: leg turk on November 14, 2017, 11:55:07 AM
is Robert Lee the starting 141 for Pitt?
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: wrastle63 on November 14, 2017, 11:59:43 AM
Quote from: leg turk on November 14, 2017, 11:55:07 AM
is Robert Lee the starting 141 for Pitt?
He moved up to 149 this year. Last year he wrestled Cole Martin at Midlands and lost to Martin. This year he will take on Zander Wick.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: dad 2 5 on November 14, 2017, 06:15:52 PM
Badger 25-14 over Pitt and 22-12 over CSB
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: ChargerDad on November 15, 2017, 06:08:00 AM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on November 14, 2017, 06:15:52 PM
Badger 25-14 over Pitt and 22-12 over CSB

Pitt ranked higher than Wisconsin in tourney format, Wisconsin ranked slightly higher in dual.. I think it will be a lot closer than that..
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: mkm13 on November 15, 2017, 06:29:35 AM
It is early in the year, but wrestlestat has it 19-14 WI.

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/62/pittsburgh/77/wisconsin
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: wrastle63 on November 15, 2017, 07:04:15 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on November 15, 2017, 06:29:35 AM
It is early in the year, but wrestlestat has it 19-14 WI.

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/62/pittsburgh/77/wisconsin
I see it as 133 and HWT are 2 matches were we are out matches. Then we have toss ups at 125 and 149. Looks to me we should be favored in all the other matches. Doesn't mean we will win them but if that holds....
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: leg turk on November 15, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
Anybody know if the Badgers Twitter acct will be covering these duals?  I don't see it on Track.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: wrastle63 on November 15, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: leg turk on November 15, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
Anybody know if the Badgers Twitter acct will be covering these duals?  I don't see it on Track.
They will be along with it being live streamed on Flowrestling.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: leg turk on November 15, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
Quote from: wrastle63 on November 15, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: leg turk on November 15, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
Anybody know if the Badgers Twitter acct will be covering these duals?  I don't see it on Track.
They will be along with it being live streamed on Flowrestling.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: wrastle63 on November 17, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Would love to see projected lineups and see how we match up against these two.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: grahekf on November 17, 2017, 10:32:43 AM
You can use this site and play with lots of different scenarios:

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/62/pittsburgh/77/wisconsin

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/21/csu-bakersfield/77/wisconsin

Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: wrastle63 on November 17, 2017, 11:03:49 AM
125 Win WIS   Alex Hernandez-Figueroa (CSUB)
133 Win WIS   Noah Blakely-Beanes (CSUB)
141   Tossup      #19 Russell Rohlfing (CSUB)
149  Win WIS   Kalani Tonge (CSUB)
157   WIN WIS   Coleman Hammond (CSUB)
165   WIN WIS   #17 Lorenzo De La Riva (CSUB)
174   WIN WIS   Bryan Battisto (CSUB)
184   WIN WIS   Dom Ducharme (CSUB)
197   WIN WIS   #11 Matt Williams (CSUB) Reinhardt beat him last year at Midlands would be disappointed if Ritter loses
285   Tossup   Jarrod Snyder (CSUB)

Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: dad 2 5 on November 17, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
NO JJ listed at 125?
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ino on November 17, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on November 17, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
NO JJ listed at 125?

I guess not:

http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2017/11/17/wrestling-weekend-outlook-in-bakersfield.aspx?path=wrestling

Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: TylerBRTC on November 17, 2017, 09:37:45 PM
Thumping of #23 Pittsburgh

Wisconsin 26
Pittsburgh 6
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
About to watch Wisconsin wrestle on Flo. Have I ever mentioned I love Flowrestling? Just one more reason.

Where did Rotondo come from? Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: TomM on November 17, 2017, 09:50:56 PM
Rotondo, a native of Vancouver, Washington, was ranked as one of the top recruits from the Evergreen State and was a two-time 4A state champion. Rotondo finished his high school wrestling career with a 168-15 record and plans to wrestle at 125 pounds.

http://www.uwbadgers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5714
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 09:51:56 PM
Rotondo was in that match. Rode well, got reversed, got away. Shot nicely, got cement mixered and pinned.

0-6
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: TylerBRTC on November 17, 2017, 09:52:19 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
About to watch Wisconsin wrestle on Flo. Have I ever mentioned I love Flowrestling? Just one more reason.

Where did Rotondo come from? Never heard of him.

Committed to Boise State.... Wisconsin was a better fit ... and Boise dropped their program. Good pick up in my opinion. Wrestles tough the whole time but lots to learn. The type of kid that can, and will be, developed at Wisconsin.  
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:00:26 PM
Cullen loses. Not much action by either guy.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:03:42 PM
Stickley with 8000 minutes of riding time. Leads 6-2
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:07:51 PM
Stickley wins 13-2. 9000 minutes of riding time.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
It's really unfair for the kids from CA. They haven't worked bottom much. It's mostly takedowns there.

Former Badger coach John Azevedo is at the dual. Maybe he'll make a comeback.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Scharenbrock beats NCAA qualifier Hammond 13-8. Crone beat him at NCAAs last year.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:33:39 PM
Wisconsin has a combined riding time of about five hours at the break.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:43:08 PM
Christiansen also has a ton of riding time. At some point, riding legs and not scoring gets a bit dull. And then he scores. This is why, among a million other things, I don't coach college wrestling.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:47:20 PM
Robertson doing all the work. Losing 2-1.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: bigG on November 18, 2017, 10:32:20 AM
Day has to come when you get dinged for parallel riding with parallel hips with legs in. Parallel is parallel, legs or not. I can sure appreciate leg riders who switch sides and actually attempt to turn. Don't know why you get a parallel opass because legs are in, though. Big difference between just riding and attempting to turn.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: bigG on November 18, 2017, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Scharenbrock beats NCAA qualifier Hammond 13-8. Crone beat him at NCAAs last year.

Did I read right, 8 reversals?
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: bigG on November 18, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: TylerBRTC on November 17, 2017, 09:52:19 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
About to watch Wisconsin wrestle on Flo. Have I ever mentioned I love Flowrestling? Just one more reason.

Where did Rotondo come from? Never heard of him.

Committed to Boise State.... Wisconsin was a better fit ... and Boise dropped their program. Good pick up in my opinion. Wrestles tough the whole time but lots to learn. The type of kid that can, and will be, developed at Wisconsin.  

Good for us. I'm still in shock over Boise dropping. They were dropping jaws a few years ago. Hope they enjoy their boys of summer.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: MNbadger on November 18, 2017, 11:01:35 AM
As mentioned by someone else in this thread, the leg ride is abused.  Parallel is parallel.  To be honest, I see very few wrestlers use legs and really turn anyone.  If they do, it is a result of getting away with stalling on top over time.  As much as everyone complains, nothing will change until we get rid of riding time.  As long as riding is rewarded with a point, they will keep riding.
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:43:08 PM
Christiansen also has a ton of riding time. At some point, riding legs and not scoring gets a bit dull. And then he scores. This is why, among a million other things, I don't coach college wrestling.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: Ghetto on November 18, 2017, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: bigG on November 18, 2017, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Scharenbrock beats NCAA qualifier Hammond 13-8. Crone beat him at NCAAs last year.

Did I read right, 8 reversals?

That may be. They kept throwing legs on each other and then getting out. Even when they weren't successful, they kept going back to leg riding.
Title: Re: Nov 17th, Tri dual?
Post by: ChargerDad on November 18, 2017, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 18, 2017, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: bigG on November 18, 2017, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on November 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Scharenbrock beats NCAA qualifier Hammond 13-8. Crone beat him at NCAAs last year.

Did I read right, 8 reversals?

That may be. They kept throwing legs on each other and then getting out. Even when they weren't successful, they kept going back to leg riding.

That's one thing that bothers me about College Wrestling at times..  some wrestles spend so much effort trying to get the rudingbtume point.. they just lock the boots in, or a crab ride with no effort to work for a turn at all..  makes for boring Wrestling..