D3 Finals Predictions:
106: R. Anderson over Z. Anglin
113: R. Lull over J. Drexler
120: R. Blair over A. Schoenfuss
126: J. Schoenherr over R. Berg
132: H. Dischler over G. Soilka
138: A. Becker over S. Van Straten
145: W. Wichman over I. Roffers
152: M. Kauffman over B. Roen
160: S. Clary over L. Clark
170: M. Johnson over S. Pittz
182: G. Joles over K. Bornbach
195: H. Fielding over J. Seufzer
220: E. Hofacker over I. Ruble
285: T. Kauffman over T. Lee
106: Anglin over Anderson
113: Lull over Sarbacker
120: Schoenfuss over Blair
126: Schoenherr over Nutter
132: Dischler over Hansen
138: Schlough over Tollefson
145: Wichmann over Engel
152: Kauffman over Roen
160: Clary over Coffeen
170: Pittz over Johnson
182: Bornbach over Joles
195: Fielding over Seufzer
220: Hofacker over Ruble
285: Kauffman over Klimek
106- Fischer over Hauri
113- Sarbacker/Drexler over Lull--- my money's mostly on Sarbacker
120- Blair over Schoenfuss
126- Schoenherr over Nutter
132- Dischler over Hansen
138- Becker over Tollefson
145- Wichmann over Engel
152- Kaufmann over Roen
160- Clary over Clark
170- Pittz over Johnson
182- Joles over Bornbach
195- Fielding over Seufzer
220- Hofacker over Ruble
285- Kaufmann over Klimek
I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
Quote from: bigdawg on February 21, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
Should be a good match. Crazy they matched up in the first round. It's a real shame one of them has to go home after that match, which is a prime example of why it needs to be double elimination.
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I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
Should be a good match. Crazy they matched up in the first round. It's a real shame one of them has to go home after that match, which is a prime example of why it needs to be double elimination.
prime example for seeding as well. this isn't 1965.
its easy for two sectionals be loaded, and then a top ranked 2nd place winner has to wrestle another highly ranked 3rd placer, which is why the system will be changed someday.
Darknight,
We need your picks.
Quote from: bigdawg on February 21, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
As long as that Coleman kid figures out a way to wrestle him. Because I think it would be kind of hard to wrestle a kid like that because they don't have as much to grab obviously. And Anglin is all over the place the entire time. Should be a great match! Looking forward to it.
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Quote from: bigdawg on February 21, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
Should be a good match. Crazy they matched up in the first round. It's a real shame one of them has to go home after that match, which is a prime example of why it needs to be double elimination.
prime example for seeding as well. this isn't 1965.
So...because the #1 "ranked" guy took took 2nd at sectionals and the #2 ranked guy took 3rd at sectionals, we should seed state to make sure they don't wrestle each other in the prelims? Ultimately making it an easier path for them? How about they win their sectional and guarantee they don't meet until the semis. The way it looks they are at best only the 4th and 5th best in the bracket....
106: Anglin over Fischer
113: Lull over Drexler
120: Blair over Schoenfuss
126: Nutter over Scheonherr
132: Dischler over Hanson
138: Tollefson over Becker
145: Winchman over Carney
152: Roen over Kauffman
160: Clary over Clark
170: Buckles over Pittz Dark horse pick!
182: Woodward over Bornbach
195: Ottum over Kleifgen
220: Hofacker over Ducaine
285: Klimek over Kaufman
Yes I'm picking 12 guys from the Mineral Point Sectional to win it. And at least 16 to be in the finals. All of these possible matches should be close.
I'm not a Fennimore or Stratford fan either I just know how tough of a sectional it is. Good luck to all wrestlers at state in 2016.
106- Fischer over Kilty
113- Lull over Drexler
120- Schoenfuss over Blair
126- Schoenherr over Nutter
132- Dischler over Hansen
138- Becker over VanStratten
145- Wichmann over Engel
152- Kaufmann over Roen
160- Clary over Clark
170- Pittz over Johnson
182- Bornbach over Joles
195- Fielding over Seufzer
220- Hofacker over Ruble
285- Lee over Kaufmann
I don't see Kaufmann getting beat, but hey anything can happen!
I do not think its a matter of fair vs not fair. It just is what it is. Seeding actually crosses the line of subjectivity vs objectivity.
106 Fischer over Anglin
113 Lull over Drexler
120 Schoenfuss over Blair
126 Schoenherr over Nutter
132 Dischler over Siolka
138 Schlough over Vanstraten (hard to put the freshman past Becker in the semis, but I have a gut feeling)
145 Wichman over Carney
152 Kaufmann over Hurlburt
160 Clark over Adams (bit of a Dark horse with Adams)
170 Johnson over Pittz
182 Bornbach over Joles (Should be a heck of a match though)
195 Fielding over Seufzer
220 Hofacker over Ruble
285 Lee over Kauffman
Just my predictions, Crazy stuff happens at state so who knows
Finals Predictions
106- R. Anderson over J. Hauri
113- R. Lull over J. Drexler
120- A. Schoenfuss over R. Blair
126- J. Schoenherr over A. Potter
132- H Dischler over G. Siolka
138- A. Becker over S. VanStraten
145- W. Wichman over C. Carney
152- M. Kauffman over B Roen
160- S. Clary over Z. Coffeen
170- S. Pittz over M. Jonhson
182- K. Bornbach over G. Joles
195- H. Fielding over J. Seufzer
220- E. Hofacker over I. Ruble
HWT- T. Kauffman over T. Lee
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I do not see Anglin making it out of Thursday night. That Coleman kid is tougher then nails.
Should be a good match. Crazy they matched up in the first round. It's a real shame one of them has to go home after that match, which is a prime example of why it needs to be double elimination.
prime example for seeding as well. this isn't 1965.
If both of these kids would have won their sectional this wouldnt of happen.Its just the way it goes, and that is why it is important to come ready to wrestle this time of the year anything can happen. The things is life isnt always fair, and that is what makes our sport so special. We learn alot about who we are as individuals and competitors when we are placed in situations that are not fair. We either learn from it and dont let it happen again or we try to position ourselves better so we dont have to worry about getting placed in a tough match the opening round of state. Learn from it... Why blame the system for this, it is shaping these young men and women to become who they are later on in life, and everyone wants to see things changed and for what? And you want to seed things just to make sure a kid gets a medal or we see certain matches wrestled in the semis or finals??? Let the kids wrestle, and let them decide the matches. You don't always get what you deserve, you get what you earn.
Yes J, but they both lost to excellent highly ranked kids.
fair? no. but life isn't fair.
But they can get fairer. I didn't blame a system, I said it could be better. I don't mind a tough first rounder, but single elimination shouldn't be in use anymore either. I
Quote from: 4219crec on February 21, 2016, 11:09:06 PM
106: Anglin over Fischer
113: Lull over Drexler
120: Blair over Schoenfuss
126: Nutter over Scheonherr
132: Dischler over Hanson
138: Tollefson over Becker
145: Winchman over Carney
152: Roen over Kauffman
160: Clary over Clark
170: Buckles over Pittz Dark horse pick!
182: Woodward over Bornbach
195: Ottum over Kleifgen
220: Hofacker over Ducaine
285: Klimek over Kaufman
Yes I'm picking 12 guys from the Mineral Point Sectional to win it. And at least 16 to be in the finals. All of these possible matches should be close.
I'm not a Fennimore or Stratford fan either I just know how tough of a sectional it is. Good luck to all wrestlers at state in 2016.
You my friend made some very, very bold picks that I don't think are going to come true.
Quote from: tiger on February 22, 2016, 11:09:33 AM
I don't see Kaufmann getting beat, but hey anything can happen!
Wasn't he losing to the athens kid 7-2 before he got the pin?
Nutter will win 126. That's a lock!
Whoa. Schoenherr and Murty will give him a run for sure. I think Schoenherr will get him. IMO.
Quote from: ankle pick on February 23, 2016, 07:25:22 AM
Nutter will win 126. That's a lock!
There is no such thing as a lock at the state tournament. Especially when there is another returning state champion in the bracket.
106-Anderson over Kilty
113-Lull over Drexler
120-Schoenfuss over Theobald
126-Nutter over Schoenherr
132-Dischler over Hansen
138-VanStraten over Schlough
145-Wichmann over Engel
152-Kauffman over Roen
160-Clary over Peat
170-Pittz over Johnson
182-Bornbach over Woodward
195-Fielding over Seufzer
220-Hofacker over Ruble
HWT-Kauffman over Klimek
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I don't see Kaufmann getting beat, but hey anything can happen!
Wasn't he losing to the athens kid 7-2 before he got the pin?
Not sure, not from Stratford! I've just watched Kaufmann beat up on a 2x state champ in Kal Gerber last year. And like I said ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!
Quote from: M-Town Fan on February 23, 2016, 07:13:54 PM
106-Anderson over Kilty
113-Lull over Drexler
120-Schoenfuss over Theobald
126-Nutter over Schoenherr
132-Dischler over Hansen
138-VanStraten over Schlough
145-Wichmann over Engel
152-Kauffman over Roen
160-Clary over Peat
170-Pittz over Johnson
182-Bornbach over Woodward
195-Fielding over Seufzer
220-Hofacker over Ruble
HWT-Kauffman over Klimek
Hurlburt has never lost to Roen.
195lbs is gonna intense, id go with Fielding still. Seufzer is the runner up at 195 returning, so I don't know what that guy brings to the table, so I cant predict a winner.
285lbs is between Lee Klimek and Kauffman, I guess I'm going with Stratford's Kauffman at 285lbs. He's been on a roll since Bi-State.
106lbs I'm cheering for my hometown kid, he's got the roughest road out of the top 6 106lbers but he can do it. Kilty has a great chance to make the finals, she'll face Hauri or Anglin/Grzbowski in the semifinals I'm thinking.
138lbs I'd have to go with the Sr. Adam Becker, but wouldn't be surprised to see the freshman do what teammate Micah Johnson did 2 years ago.
The Weyauwega-Fremont kid didn't win the Bonduel Sectional at 106 by some sort of fluke. He was the best wrestler there. Kilty and Gryz are pretty even, and Fischer is better. I had him pegged for third coming in, but he made a believer out of me. Some of you are acting like the whole thing never happened.
Quote from: firemanscarry on February 23, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
The Weyauwega-Fremont kid didn't win the Bonduel Sectional at 106 by some sort of fluke. He was the best wrestler there. Kilty and Gryz are pretty even, and Fischer is better. I had him pegged for third coming in, but he made a believer out of me. Some of you are acting like the whole thing never happened.
Weak schedule had no one really knowing how good this kid was....but he is definitely the real deal!!! He has wrestled major competition in his years leading up to high school(not under WF) and seems to be ready for the challenge. I would now pick him as my favorite.
106 C.Fischer W-F over M.Kilty Stratford
113 R.Lull Fennimore over J.Drexler Stratford
120 S.Schlegel SVE over R.Blair Fennimore
126 A.Nutter Fennimore over J.Schoenherr Stratford
132 C.Hansen Deerfield over H.Dischler I/W
138 A.Becker JC over S.Van Straten Shiocton
145 W.Wichman over C.Carney SCF
152 C.Hurlburt SVE over M.Kauffman Stratford
160 S.Clary I/W over Z.Coffeen Laconia
170 J.Schlegel SVE over M.Johnson Boyceville
182 K.Bornbach Stratford over G.Joles Boyceville
195 H.Fielding Shiocton over J.Seufzer Dodgeland
220 E.Hofacker SVE over I.Ruble Clear Lake
285 T.Kauffman Stratford over B.Klimek Cashton
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I don't see Kaufmann getting beat, but hey anything can happen!
Wasn't he losing to the athens kid 7-2 before he got the pin?
Not sure, not from Stratford! I've just watched Kaufmann beat up on a 2x state champ in Kal Gerber last year. And like I said ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!
I think they were talking about Tyson Kauffman not Mason..
106 Fischer over Kilty
113 Lull over Drexler
120 Schoenfuss over Blair
126 Schoenher over Nutter
132 Dischler over Hansen
138 Schlough over Tollefson
145 Wichman over Engel
152 Kauffman over Roen
160 Clary over Coffeen
170 Pittz over Johnson
182 Joles over Bornbach
195 Seifzer over Fielding
220 Hofacker over Ruble
285 Kauffman over Lee
I'll take a shot at it...When it was all said in done it sure looks like a lot of my picks are similar to those of Padre.
106 Fischer over Kitty
113 Lull over Dexter
120 Blair over Schlegel
126 Schoenher over Nutter
132 Dischler over Hansen
138 Schlough over Tollefsen
145 Wichman over Engel
152 Kauffman over Hurlburt
160 Clary over Coffee
170 Pittz over Johnson
182 Joles over Bornbach
195 Fielding over Seifzer
220 Hofacker over Ruble
285 Kauffman over Klimek
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I don't see Kaufmann getting beat, but hey anything can happen!
Wasn't he losing to the athens kid 7-2 before he got the pin?
Not sure, not from Stratford! I've just watched Kaufmann beat up on a 2x state champ in Kal Gerber last year. And like I said ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!
Oh I was talking about Tyson Kaufmann, my bad. Yes I agree with you, Mason made Gerber look like a child last year.
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The Weyauwega-Fremont kid didn't win the Bonduel Sectional at 106 by some sort of fluke. He was the best wrestler there. Kilty and Gryz are pretty even, and Fischer is better. I had him pegged for third coming in, but he made a believer out of me. Some of you are acting like the whole thing never happened.
Weak schedule had no one really knowing how good this kid was....but he is definitely the real deal!!! He has wrestled major competition in his years leading up to high school(not under WF) and seems to be ready for the challenge. I would now pick him as my favorite.
He actually did wrestle middle school in Weyauwega.
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The Weyauwega-Fremont kid didn't win the Bonduel Sectional at 106 by some sort of fluke. He was the best wrestler there. Kilty and Gryz are pretty even, and Fischer is better. I had him pegged for third coming in, but he made a believer out of me. Some of you are acting like the whole thing never happened.
Weak schedule had no one really knowing how good this kid was....but he is definitely the real deal!!! He has wrestled major competition in his years leading up to high school(not under WF) and seems to be ready for the challenge. I would now pick him as my favorite.
He actually did wrestle middle school in Weyauwega.
Yep...but has done tons of outside wrestling. Dad is very supportive and he's gone all over.
Most kids these days do a lot of out of season wrestling, but that doesn't mean he's not part of that program. Great kid.
Quote from: Gizmo6 on February 25, 2016, 05:23:40 PM
Most kids these days do a lot of out of season wrestling, but that doesn't mean he's not part of that program. Great kid.
Very true...couple kids at those lower weights wi be making the podium the next three years for Wega.
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Nutter will win 126. That's a lock!
There is no such thing as a lock at the state tournament. Especially when there is another returning state champion in the bracket.
Someone did have a key to this lock, didnt they?
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Nutter will win 126. That's a lock!
There is no such thing as a lock at the state tournament. Especially when there is another returning state champion in the bracket.
Someone did have a key to this lock, didnt they?
At the state tournament there is always a skeleton key for every lock.
I'm probably getting old when most under 40 won't know what I meant. :-\
paintortureagony's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Johnson over Pittz
195: Fielding over Seufzer
fastnfurions's predictions:
113: Lull over Sarbacker
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
tiger's predictions:
113: Sarbacker/Drexler over Lull
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Dominating Doubles 170's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
M-Town Fan's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Spiral Ride's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Schlegel over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
4219crec's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Buckles over Pittz
195: Ottum over Kleifgen
Roundhead's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Grasshopper's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Padre's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Superfan22's predictions:
113: Lull over Drexler
170: Pittz over Johnson
195: Fielding over Seufzer
Reality
Semifinals:
113: Josh Depies Random Lake over Drexler
170: Helton Vandenbush Random Lake over Pittz
195: Hunter Huiras Random Lake over Fielding
Guess it's good that the boys from Random Lake don't read the forum!! Kudos to Helton Vandenbush for winning a state championship that very few saw coming and to Depies and Huiras for knocking off everyone's pick to make finals (Huiras beat Ottum in the quarters as well).
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Nutter will win 126. That's a lock!
There is no such thing as a lock at the state tournament. Especially when there is another returning state champion in the bracket.
Someone did have a key to this lock, didnt they?
At the state tournament there is always a skeleton key for every lock.
I'm probably getting old when most under 40 won't know what I meant. :-\
Skeleton key? Cool. Haven't heard or seen that term for a long time. Yeah, you are officially an old fart. ;) Welcome to the club!