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Title: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: 57 Chevy on April 03, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
Looking over the season ending results from the national tournaments, 4 Freshmen had earlier season wins over eventual All-Americans from DII, DIII, & NAIA this season.

- Seth Liegel with a 6-5 win over DIII 157# National Champion, Nazar Kulchytskyy of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (42-2), at the Gable Open. One of just 2 losses on the season.

- Eric Peissig with a 4-3 win over NAIA 197# National Champion, Jesse Hellinger Dickinson State (23-3), at the Blugold Open. One of 3 losses on season. (his other 2 losses were by injury defaults)

- Jake Stillings with a 8-6 win over DIII  174# 4th place finisher, Dan Schiferl Oshkosh (33-6) at Gable Open.

- Ricky Robertson with a 7-2 win over NAIA 7th place finisher, Eric Johnson of Calumet College of St Joseph  (13-11), at the Gable Open

Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: imnofish on April 03, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
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Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: leg turk on April 04, 2014, 06:46:53 AM
I might be wrong on this, but wasn't Nazar a 3 time National champ?
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: imnofish on April 04, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: leg turk on April 04, 2014, 06:46:53 AM
I might be wrong on this, but wasn't Nazar a 3 time National champ?

Yep!  http://www.intermatwrestle.com/articles/13072
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: dad 2 5 on April 04, 2014, 01:53:16 PM
looking forward to how this guys stack up against DI opponents. Plus we add Donor. How is he doing in?
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: grahekf on April 04, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
Stats for everyone on the Team Roster tab:

http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/results/ColScorebook/TeamInfo.aspx?SchoolYear=2014&ID=30080 (http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/results/ColScorebook/TeamInfo.aspx?SchoolYear=2014&ID=30080)
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 07, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
Thanks for posting that link grahekf !!

Here are last year's redshirts and backups with winning records

Crone 23-8
Robertson 22-4
Liegel 21-4
Stilling 19-6
Grahek  15-8
Weber 13-6
Donar 11-6
Horwath 10-2
Peissig 10-7

TJ Ruschell was 14-11 part time varsity...


Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: badgerjohn on April 08, 2014, 08:12:48 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 07, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
Thanks for posting that link grahekf !!

Here are last year's redshirts and backups with winning records

Crone 23-8
Robertson 22-4
Liegel 21-4
Stilling 19-6
Grahek  15-8
Weber 13-6
Donar 11-6
Horwath 10-2
Peissig 10-7

TJ Ruschell was 14-11 part time varsity...

Kalvin York has one more year eligibility.............. missed 2 years with injuries, NCAA granted medical year
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: leg turk on April 08, 2014, 08:25:31 AM
What weight would york be at, I forget where he was?
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: billymurphy on April 08, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
That is a key point, these young Badgers have a lot of talent so it will not be easy for York to find a spot in the lineup.  Lubeck at 149 and Jordan at 157 lbs are locks. 
York's best bet would be at 165 but Seth Liegel is a stud too so any Badgers that were starters a few years ago are being upgraded with superior talent. 
York is a greco guy at heart that won national titles at that but no state titles in folkstyle, so he is plenty good enough to compete at a high level in greco.
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 08, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
If Taylor and Thielke go 125 and 133, who goes 141?  Lubeck made that weight as a freshman...
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: leg turk on April 08, 2014, 09:38:39 AM
Quote from: billymurphy on April 08, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
That is a key point, these young Badgers have a lot of talent so it will not be easy for York to find a spot in the lineup.  Lubeck at 149 and Jordan at 157 lbs are locks. 
York's best bet would be at 165 but Seth Liegel is a stud too so any Badgers that were starters a few years ago are being upgraded with superior talent. 
York is a greco guy at heart that won national titles at that but no state titles in folkstyle, so he is plenty good enough to compete at a high level in greco.

Someone told me Liegel is getting pretty big, I think he'll go 174.  It would be nice to see Lubeck at 141, but he looked pretty good size at 149 this year, I'm not so sure he can get down to 141.
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: littleguy301 on April 08, 2014, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 08, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
If Taylor and Thielke go 125 and 133, who goes 141?  Lubeck made that weight as a freshman...

By the looks of Lubeck at 49, I would be shocked to see him at 41 but stranger things have happened.

I think that 41 is going to be the up in the air weight class come this fall. How about the kid from Milwaukee that I cannt spell the name right, Mitch Graf....... is what I have and please correct me on the name.
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: imnofish on April 08, 2014, 08:59:41 PM
I thought it was Umgwana Kikbuty.   ;)
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: littleguy301 on April 08, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: Napoleon Dynamite on April 08, 2014, 08:53:08 PM
Gabe Grahek

Would he be 41?
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: charteroak1 on April 09, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
Ruschell = 141
Title: Re: Badger Freshmen vs DII, DIII, & NAIA All-Americans
Post by: badgerjohn on April 09, 2014, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: charteroak1 on April 09, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
Ruschell = 141

Wrong.  Won't happen.  TJ will never be less than 149.