Now that the regional smoke has started to clear. Pick your state champs.
110 Schoenfuss from Straford
115 is stacked. Nutter, DeMeyer (Rhinelenader), Martin (Straford), Stuhl (Prescot) I can't rule any of these guys out.
120 Skateebo (south milwaukee), Kochiu (Wausau)
125 Schlough (Boyceville), Vincenzo Digenero (Janesveille) I give edge to Schlough
other more obvious picks... Hayden Krein, Frank Garcia, The 105 pound kid from Stratford. Westphall Athens. These are just kids I know and do not mean to disrespect the other great wrestlers in the state that will win their division or place high.
95 lbs is loaded - Logan Walker pinned his way through regionals. Wrestled a total of 1:29. Drew Scharenbrock and Cody Suddeth out of the Middleton Regional will make a run. Mason Phillips out of the River Falls regional will be tough. Add in Corbin Trotzer and Tyler Olson from the Wisconsin Rapids regional you are looking at some of the top kids in the state. I say Walker and Phillips in the finals but I think Trotzer could get through as a "dark horse"
Quote from: bulldog on March 20, 2014, 01:11:57 PM
95 lbs is loaded - Logan Walker pinned his way through regionals. Wrestled a total of 1:29. Drew Scharenbrock and Cody Suddeth out of the Middleton Regional will make a run. Mason Phillips out of the River Falls regional will be tough. Add in Corbin Trotzer and Tyler Olson from the Wisconsin Rapids regional you are looking at some of the top kids in the state. I say Walker and Phillips in the finals but I think Trotzer could get through as a "dark horse"
Holy cow!! All those kids in the same bracket? That's one tough bracket!!!
Bailey at 110 Ellie and Belongia at 175 Villnow at 190
80 - Manny Drexler
85 - Benji Peak
90 - Caleb Ziebell
95 - Drew Scharenbrock
100 - Aaron Schulist
105 - Jeremy Schoenherr
110 - ;)
115 - Alston Nutter
120 - Jacob Skattebo
125 - Brock Schlough
130 - Brett Von Ruden
135 - Hayden Krein
140 - Tyler Dow
145 - Frank Garcia
150 - Jacob Krattinger
160 - Travis Hudack
175 - Jake Belongia
190 - Max Villnow
210 - ??
240 - ??
270 - ??
270+ - Jose Manjarrez
Dang Foose, we should have bumped up to 110.
Quote from: foose4 on March 21, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
80 - Manny Drexler
85 - Benji Peak
90 - Caleb Ziebell
95 - Drew Scharenbrock
100 - Aaron Schulist
105 - Jeremy Schoenherr
110 - ;)
115 - Alston Nutter
120 - Jacob Skattebo
125 - Brock Schlough
130 - Brett Von Ruden
135 - Hayden Krein
140 - Tyler Dow
145 - Frank Garcia
150 - Jacob Krattinger
160 - Travis Hudack
175 - Jake Belongia
190 - Max Villnow
210 - ??
240 - ??
270 - ??
270+ - Jose Martinez
Good Picks Foose - I'll Take Ellie at 175#, Martin for the upset at #115 and there's about 5 kids at #110 that could win that bracket!
One that will be missed from this line-up. Mace Kilty from Stratford. I think Mace could have made a great run at either 90 or 95 pound bracket this year but (as I understand it) the WWF does not allow female athletes to choose to wrestle in the "boys" division for the state title. Too bad...Mace is a great competitor and would compete with the other athletes at the state level. Maybe the WWF will change this stance in the future...
Quote from: bulldog on March 21, 2014, 02:02:37 PM
One that will be missed from this line-up. Mace Kilty from Stratford. I think Mace could have made a great run at either 90 or 95 pound bracket this year but (as I understand it) the WWF does not allow female athletes to choose to wrestle in the "boys" division for the state title. Too bad...Mace is a great competitor and would compete with the other athletes at the state level. Maybe the WWF will change this stance in the future...
PLUS 100
Totally agree and I complained to people of the WWF about it, but they didn't change anything except saying this is better for the sport.....yeah I see lots of numbers in the WWF girls groups after a couple years. Just not working out, wish they would leave them pick.
She gets her "State Tournament" this weekend at Dominate in the Dells. GOOD LUCK MACEY!! Back up that Liberty Nationals Championship with another!!
Quote from: foose4 on March 21, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
80 - Manny Drexler
85 - Benji Peak
90 - Caleb Ziebell
95 - Drew Scharenbrock
100 - Aaron Schulist
105 - Jeremy Schoenherr
110 - ;)
115 - Alston Nutter
120 - Jacob Skattebo
125 - Brock Schlough
130 - Brett Von Ruden
135 - Hayden Krein
140 - Tyler Dow
145 - Frank Garcia
150 - Jacob Krattinger
160 - Travis Hudack
175 - Jake Belongia
190 - Max Villnow
210 - ??
240 - ??
270 - ??
270+ - Jose Manjarrez
I like Joles from Boyceville at 160. Mason Phillips, other then that good list. Krien is awsome, Schlough is really good. Stuhl at 115 is one tough SOB
80- Manny Drexler
85- Benji Peak
90- Caleb Ziebell/Riley Blair
95- Mason Phillips
100- Aaron Schulist
105- Abraham Sell/Jeremy Schoenherr
110- Aj Schoenfuss
115- Alston Nutter
120- Jacob Skattebo
Just a couple predictions
Okay, probably REALLY dumb question, but I can't find it...60 or 90 second periods for these guys?
Bitin' the nails...countin' the minutes...even for the fifth time, never gets old...
See ya at Alliant,
-Dad
Quote from: 911Dad on March 23, 2014, 06:09:31 PM
Okay, probably REALLY dumb question, but I can't find it...60 or 90 second periods for these guys?
Bitin' the nails...countin' the minutes...even for the fifth time, never gets old...
See ya at Alliant,
-Dad
ONE MINUTE PERIODS. I wish they were at least 90 seconds, too easy to stall out a win with just a 60 second period.
Quote from: MARSHDOC on March 23, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: 911Dad on March 23, 2014, 06:09:31 PM
Okay, probably REALLY dumb question, but I can't find it...60 or 90 second periods for these guys?
Bitin' the nails...countin' the minutes...even for the fifth time, never gets old...
See ya at Alliant,
-Dad
So they changed the oldest group back to 1 minute periods?
ONE MINUTE PERIODS. I wish they were at least 90 seconds, too easy to stall out a win with just a 60 second period.
Please see the information taken from the WWF website.
WIAA mat rules will apply in the folkstyle state championship qualifiers - with one exception. The time periods are one minute long at all age levels at the qualifiers. One minute periods for the youngest three age groups and one and a half minute periods for the oldest group at the state tournament only. There are only 15 minutes of rest required between matches.
Quote from: kneeslide on March 23, 2014, 07:00:17 PM
Please see the information taken from the WWF website.
WIAA mat rules will apply in the folkstyle state championship qualifiers - with one exception. The time periods are one minute long at all age levels at the qualifiers. One minute periods for the youngest three age groups and one and a half minute periods for the oldest group at the state tournament only. There are only 15 minutes of rest required between matches.
So I am wrong in thinking all periods were 60 seconds? Kind of weird not to have the qualifiers be the same as the state tournament isn't it. I am very happy to be wrong in this instance.
I agree it is odd they follow a different system but has been that way for a while now.
If the WWF ran 90sec periods for the oldest group at the qualifiers,you would have even more people complaining about how long it took for the tournament to finish. ???
Quote from: boowrestle on March 24, 2014, 07:56:33 AM
If the WWF ran 90sec periods for the oldest group at the qualifiers,you would have even more people complaining about how long it took for the tournament to finish. ???
But it doesn't have to take longer. They start the older kid qualifiers later in the day, open up a couple of mats and start them first thing in the morning, the tournament would end at an appropriate time. There have been many times this year when my kid and others have had their opponents locked up and ready to turn or on their back and the 60 seconds was up. These kids are step away from HS, the ones with the courage to wrestle in the qualifiers and the ones that make it to the state tournament deserve 90 second periods. Just my opinion. I guess we're way off topic of predictions.
Quote from: Tews19 on March 23, 2014, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: foose4 on March 21, 2014, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: bulldog on March 21, 2014, 02:02:37 PM
One that will be missed from this line-up. Mace Kilty from Stratford. I think Mace could have made a great run at either 90 or 95 pound bracket this year but (as I understand it) the WWF does not allow female athletes to choose to wrestle in the "boys" division for the state title. Too bad...Mace is a great competitor and would compete with the other athletes at the state level. Maybe the WWF will change this stance in the future...
PLUS 100
Totally agree and I complained to people of the WWF about it, but they didn't change anything except saying this is better for the sport.....yeah I see lots of numbers in the WWF girls groups after a couple years. Just not working out, wish they would leave them pick.
She gets her "State Tournament" this weekend at Dominate in the Dells. GOOD LUCK MACEY!! Back up that Liberty Nationals Championship with another!!
I saw her for the first time yesterday at the Dominate in the Dells. She is an excellent wrestler. I was so impressed with her I made it a point to be matside for every match she had until the finals.... I noticed she defaulted the finals and wrestle back. Was that due to wrestling in the HS State? Either way it was great to see a wrestler of her caliber regardless of sex. I hope to see big things from her past HS wrestling.
Mace had a great run in Dominate the Dells this weekend. I saw she did not wrestle the finals match also. not sure why. She is a great kid and a great practice partner for anybody that has the chance to drill with her. I wish my boy could get more time on the mat with partners like Mace. It drives me nuts that WWF will not give them the chance to decide. In HS you are not going to get to wrestle only female athletes so why is it "better for the sport" in Youth. Is the WWF worried about crushing some boys ego if they get "beat by a girl". Tell you what...they better learn it in 7th grade because in 12th grade it will be a bit harder to live with.
At Dominate in the Dells I saw to gals compete in the "boys" division and they did a great job. Mace placing 2nd and I beleive Jayden Laurent from FVE placed 1st. These athletes have a great future in this sport...great to see.
Too bad the WWF doesn't give them a chance to show it in Madison this weekend
Is Macy going to be a freshman next yr and if so where will she be going to high school at??
Quote from: boowrestle on March 24, 2014, 04:36:03 PM
Is Macy going to be a freshman next yr and if so where will she be going to high school at??
Macey is actually a 2001 7th grader. She is currently at Stratford and I don't see her leaving as her father was instrumental in building our new wrestling practice facility.
Yes it is going to be one packed room pretty soon. The best of the best will come out.
I see like some of the past threads on the forum this one as well has gotten a little off topic, so to try to get back on topic, here are my picks.
80-Barnett
85-Peak
90-Blair
95-Phillips
100-Schultz
105-Hannah
110-Murty
115-Demeyer
120-Skattebo
125-Schlough
130-Vonruden
135-Krein
140-Dow
145-Garcia
150-Krattiger
160-Joles
175-Belongia
The last four weights I have no picks. And the ones that I have, some of them are very deep with talent, thus making some very hard to chose a champ. Good luck to ALL of the kids that have the guts and good fortune to be out on the mat competing on Friday and Saturday in Madison.
UPDATING MY PICKS JUST TO STIR THE POT
***I think these are realistic possibilities**
110 Tarty over Mocco Schoenfuss 3rd
115 DeMeyer/Marten toss up Nutter 3rd
120 Kochiu over Skattebo
125 Digenero to upset Schlough
130 Bird
135 Nate Crayton to upset Krein
I hope I haven't mixed the weight classes up. Although my picks are realistic, there is a reason I don't gamble.
What about the Fondy Regional qualifiers for 95? Mountjoy beat Suddeth at Dominate in the Dells. Mountjoys name not well know yet, but he has a great chance of making the podium. He's one to watch for next year.
Quote from: MatHog23 on March 25, 2014, 03:32:41 PM
What about the Fondy Regional qualifiers for 95? Mountjoy beat Suddeth at Dominate in the Dells. Mountjoys name not well know yet, but he has a great chance of making the podium. He's one to watch for next year.
There are so many. I can't wait to see these kids and get to know them before they start their HS careers. I am only able to make predictions around weight classes I know. I must have really made Stuhl angry, I forgot he was also at 115 along with McMillen. In my opinion 115 is the weight class with the most talent by far. My son isn't in that weight class, but I have to call it as it is. That division is up for grabs.
I also agree 115 is too tough to call. There are about 5-6 kids that all have a legitimate shot at winning it. Unlike many other weight classes where there is a clear favorite, at 115 I don't think you could call it an upset if any of these kids win it.
herewego Let us here your clear cut favorites. But may I remind you that anyone can be beaten on any given day. Lets hear your automatics. That being said 115 is very deep with talent, as well as several others.
I'm not sure where the word "automatic" was used. My point was at some weights there are kids that many people would say are heavily favored to win. I'm not getting into naming kids. At 115 I think there is more parity. If you don't agree with that, so be it.
Quote from: Hand Control on March 26, 2014, 09:57:26 AM
herewego Let us here your clear cut favorites. But may I remind you that anyone can be beaten on any given day. Lets hear your automatics. That being said 115 is very deep with talent, as well as several others.
Do you have any true automatic picks? I could only say which I think are most likely in 1 or weight classes and even those I wouldn't call automatic.
Quote from: MARSHDOC on March 25, 2014, 05:22:13 AM
UPDATING MY PICKS JUST TO STIR THE POT
***I think these are realistic possibilities**
110 Tarty over Mocco Schoenfuss 3rd
115 DeMeyer/Marten toss up Nutter 3rd
120 Kochiu over Skattebo
125 Digenero to upset Schlough
130 Bird
135 Nate Crayton to upset Krein
I hope I haven't mixed the weight classes up. Although my picks are realistic, there is a reason I don't gamble.
No takers? I purposely picked a few underdogs here to stimulate debate.
120: Skattebo. This kid is focused and relaxed. Going to be tough to beat
130: Bird (The younger brother of Josh Bird) has the potential to wrestle Zach Lee (Is this the younger brother of Robert Lee?). If so, somebody please make that happen :)
Quote from: Kodonnelllaw on March 27, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
120: Skattebo. This kid is focused and relaxed. Going to be tough to beat
130: Bird (The younger brother of Josh Bird) has the potential to wrestle Zach Lee (Is this the younger brother of Robert Lee?). If so, somebody please make that happen :)
You're probably right in both picks, neither will be a shoe in though. Yes that is Birds younger brother. I didn't think of that another Bird versus Lee match. Seen that Skattebo kid in MN he looked great. I won't be surprised to see upsets at most weight classes though.
Bird vs. Lee in the Finals? I like the sound of that.
...that last post was brought to you by the Department of Obvious... ;D ;D ;D
See ya tomorrow, Coach!
-Dad (FB)
ok Jeff Jones you heard it, lets fill the stands with another potential LEE VS BIRD match up Saturday night. Only you can make it happen. Good luck guys see you in a few hours. One of them will have to get through Von Ruden who is a solid kid as well.
Bird and Lee are on the same side of the bracket - they would meet in the match before the finals...if they both get that far. But great match up opportunity. There is soo many good kids at state this year. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning
You got your wish! ;D He now holds the family title as the only Bird to beat a Lee this year.
Quote from: Kodonnelllaw on March 27, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
120: Skattebo. This kid is focused and relaxed. Going to be tough to beat
130: Bird (The younger brother of Josh Bird) has the potential to wrestle Zach Lee (Is this the younger brother of Robert Lee?). If so, somebody please make that happen :)
Congrats all those that put the Virginia National Duals team together. Off the top of my head the boys on that team who wrestled this weekend were Barnett, Peak, Scattebo, Krein, and Garcia state champions with Scharanbrock 3rd and Bird 2nd. It was a real pleasure watching those guys wrestle out East again the best in the country. Krattiger couldn't make that trip unfortunately.
"Congrats all those that put the Virginia National Duals team together. Off the top of my head the boys on that team who wrestled this weekend were Barnett, Peak, Scattebo, Krein, and Garcia state champions with Scharanbrock 3rd and Bird 2nd. It was a real pleasure watching those guys wrestle out East again the best in the country."
Agreed! Morgan also took the championship this weekend and Lewis took second.
I know Matt Ochs (South Milwaukee) was a big part of the Virginia Duals. Great job and great coach.
BTW: His little brother Skattebo took 1st!
Jared Lewis was also a big part of the Virginia Duals Team! His keen eye for talent and the connections he has with kids in Wisconsin as well as other states was a big part to their success. Thank you to all that played a part in putting the team together, a great group of talented wrestlers and parents!
Aaron Schulist was also on the Virginia Dual team and a state champion this weekend.
The Virginia Duals was one of my son's favorite tournaments ever, (along with Tulsa this year which he traveled to with Higher Level folks.) Great kids, coaches, and parents!!
Yeah, there was another really tough kid from Ohio on the team I can't remember his name as well as little man Creese from Minnesota, and another really tough kid from IL. That was a heck of a team, the only problem was that Garcia was the heaviest kid on the team so we were for forfeiting 3 weight classes every dual.
I have to say congrats to the state champion Caleb Ziebell. He's made it to the finals a couple of times but finished on top in his last year. Great job...
We should also congratulate the men who made the Wisconson LAW X World Gold Elite Team that took 2nd at Liberty Duals.
For 1999-2000
7 State Champs
4 Runner Ups
3 3rd Place
2 4th Place
Plus in 2001-02
3 State Champs
1 Runner Up
1 3rd Place
Pretty Stout Team that traveled to Missouri
Plus a second WI All Stars team took 3rd at Liberty Duals which also had good showing this weekend.