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Title: This Year's Tournament
Post by: sunchip69 on January 20, 2014, 04:32:56 PM
This year's tournament should be one of the best in recent memory. With the team race to be interesting as always. Below I have my individual champions in order of weight.

106-Cameron Croft (Markesan)
113-Cal Hansen (Deerfield)
120-Adam Becker (Johnson Creek)
126-Payton Hall (Princeton)
132-Wilder Wichmann (Johnson Creek) *these two could flip flop
138-Trey Storms (Deerfield) *these two could flip flop
145-Toss Up
152-Brian Dowling (Lourdes)
160-Ryan Shmauz (Horicon)
170-Kyle Kemmerling (Johnson Creek)
182-Cody Kuphal (Markesan)
195-Jake Straks (Markesan) ***Assuming he will drop to here
220-Clayton Usselmann (Johnson Creek)
285-Matt Stensrud (Markesan)
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Big Steve on January 21, 2014, 03:06:55 PM
Sunchips I was just about to let you have it and then I saw your email. All in good fun.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Big House on January 21, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Good one Hunter ...
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: sunchip69 on January 21, 2014, 09:00:10 PM
Sorry if that part about running away offended anyone. I did not realize it was on there. I was making the list and just about to submit it when I got called to the office then stopped at my locker and the bubbler on the way back. During this time apparently one of my teammates apparently added the part about Hebbe running away and submitted it before I got back. I just saw that it was submitted when I got back and thought nothing of it. Again, I apologize and have modified it already. Sorry if the post offended anyone.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on January 23, 2014, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: sunchip69 on January 20, 2014, 04:32:56 PM
This year's tournament should be one of the best in recent memory. With the team race to be interesting as always. Below I have my individual champions in order of weight.

106-Cameron Croft (Markesan)
113-Cal Hansen (Deerfield)
120-Adam Becker (Johnson Creek)
126-Payton Hall (Princeton)
132-Wilder Wichmann (Johnson Creek) *these two could flip flop
138-Trey Storms (Deerfield) *these two could flip flop
145-Toss Up
152-Brian Dowling (Lourdes)
160-Ryan Shmauz (Horicon)
170-Kyle Kemmerling (Johnson Creek)
182-Cody Kuphal (Markesan)
195-Jake Straks (Markesan) ***Assuming he will drop to here
220-Clayton Usselmann (Johnson Creek)
285-Matt Stensrud (Markesan)

Do you think Hall will really drop to 126? I know he is skin folded for 126, but I don't think he ever wrestled that weight even last year.  He would definitely be the favorite at 126. 

Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on January 26, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Ill take gilbertson at 120
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on January 27, 2014, 02:32:37 PM
I see Becker was out of the lineup this weekend.  Nothing serious I hope. 

If Becker goes 120 for conference, I think that will be the toughest weight class. Gilbertson and Ellison

If Becker goes 113, I think that will be the toughest.  Hansen, Becker, Hunter & Gross.

Looking forward to it already.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on February 02, 2014, 03:13:49 PM
Any word if Becker is moving down?
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: PCA on February 02, 2014, 03:35:29 PM
Becker was at 113 at Hustisford
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Calh on February 02, 2014, 03:51:57 PM
Who is the toss up in the 145 weight class. One that comes to my mind is Holland of Princeton and for 138 Hebbe  Princeton they both took first at the Hustisford invitational yesterday.


Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 03, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
113 is going to be fun to watch at conference.  Four guys in the state rankings in one weight class.

Payton Hall dropped to 126 at Hustisford.  That will make for a loaded sectional.  Kraus (2nd last year), Mudlaff (5th last year), Weise (SQ last year) and Hall.  A pretty good wrestler will not make it out

Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 03, 2014, 09:11:44 AM
Ryan Schmauz had to pull out of the Hustisford Tourney injured this weekend.  I heard that he broke his ankle.  If its true, that's tough luck for him.

I think that will leave 160 wide open for conference.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Big House on February 03, 2014, 10:30:21 AM
Are you sure it's broken?
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: bfboy on February 03, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
Here is what you all have been waiting for...BFBOY's picks for conference.

106: 1.  Wilfong (Deer)  2.  Croft (Mark)  3.  Kadinger (Husty)

113: 1.  Hansen (Deer)  2.  Becker (JC)  3.  Hunter (Mark)

120: 1.  Ellison (Oak)  2.  Gilbertson (Deer)  3.  David (JC)

126: 1.  Hall (Prince)  2.  Delaney (Deer)  3.  Avalos (JC)

132: 1.  Wichman (JC)  2.  Storms (Deer)  3.  Graham (Rio)

138: 1.  Hebbe (Prince) 2.  Hansen (Mark)  3.  Beecher (Lourdes)

145: 1.  Hollaand (Prince)  2.  Dowling (Lourdes)  3.  Sellnow (JC)

152: 1.  Figol (Rio)  2.  Leahy (Mark)  3.  Borges (Horicon)

160: 1.  Schmauz (Horicon)  2.  Steger (Prince)  3.  Roberts (Deer)

170: 1.  Kemmerling (JC)  2.  Canales (Rio)  3.  VanderGriten (Deer)

182: 1.  Kuphal (Mark)  2.  Denzer (Prince)  3.  Machek (Rio)

195: 1.  Suefzer (Dodge)  2.  James (Lourdes)  3.  Seelinger (Princeton)

220:  1. Uselman (JC)  2.  Straks (Mark)  3.  Knipfer (Deer)

285:  1.  Stensrud (Mark)  2.  Pope (Deer)  3.  Graham (Rio)

Final Standings Points

181 - Princeton
181 - Johnson Creek
175 - Deerfield
141 - Markesan
125 - Rio/Fall River/Cambria
92 - Dodgeland
76 - Horicon
70 - Lourdes
54 - Oakfield
17 - Husty
16 - Montello

It will be extremely close for the team championship.  There are some wrestlers who have been out for a little bit who may or may not return that could affect how things end up at conference.

Fehring (Lourdes)
Hood (Johnson Creek)
Dembowski (Deerfield)
Easterson (Oakfield)

I could see Canales, VanderGriten, Kemmerling, or even Will White bumping up to 182 to take advantage of a weak weight class.  It would be funny if all four bumped up and left 170 void of any superstar.

If Schmauz is out at 160, that opens up a complete can of worms for everyone. 

The one other thing to keep in mind is grades come out for a couple schools this week.  I know in the past Markesan, Johnson Creek and Deerfield have been hurt by this. Let's hope for everyone to be healthy and eligible.  It makes for an exciting tournament. 

Good luck to everyone!



Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 03, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: Big House on February 03, 2014, 10:30:21 AM
Are you sure it's broken?
Not sure.  I hope its not.  One of our guys heard it from a Horicon coach at the tourney.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 03, 2014, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: bfboy on February 03, 2014, 11:38:48 AM



Let's hope for everyone to be healthy and eligible.  It makes for an exciting tournament.  

Good luck to everyone!



I agree completely.  Thanks for the picks.  I'm going to copy them and take with for a guide.  So hard to tell where they will all end up, but I think you are very close.  

I'm looking forward to a potential Hansen/Becker match.  I don't even have a pick but I suspect it should be close.  Becker lost 4-2 to the #1 @120.  When he does lose, its almost never by much.

Also looking forward to possible matchup of two conference champs at 220 (Uselman/Fehring).  
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Heavy Weight on February 07, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
With the tournament series starting tomorrow. Good luck to all teams looking for conference team titles and to all the individuals hunting for a title of there own.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on February 09, 2014, 08:13:05 PM
Deerfield ending up winning the team title as well. Its too bad they weren't healthy when they dualed Creek earlier this year. It would have made for a  more intresting dual. In my opinion deerfield win.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: bfboy on February 09, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
Congratulations to Deerfield on their championship.  Their lightweights can really wrestle, they had finalists in the first five weight classes.  A couple notes from the tournament that I noticed.

1.  I feel bad for Schmauz from Horicon.  Not to take away from anyone in the 160 bracket, but Schmauz would have walked through that bracket if he didn't injure his lower leg at the Husty invite.
2.  Thank you Lourdes for helping out with the Trackwrestling side of things.
3.  Knowing that we could see Hansen vs. Becker and Storms vs. Wichman 3 more times this year could make things interesting.
4.  Hall is going to be a force at 126.  Who would of thought he would have been able to handle the weight drop that well.  Tough sectional, but wow!
5.  The youth movement continues.  9 champions will be returning next year (10 if you count Becker's championship from last year).  Congratulations to those five seniors who walk away champions (Gilbertson, Krause, VanderGriten, Kemmerling, and Uselman).
6.  The officiating was hit and miss all day.  It culminated with the Kuphal vs. Kemmerling match at 182.  I commend both wrestlers and coaching staffs for maintaining their composure during the match.  We can do better with our officials for next year.
7.  Thank you Montello for hosting. 
8.  I was impressed with Rio/CF/FR's crowd and their boys on the mat.  Their team is definitely starting to turn it around.
9.  Both dual meet champs finished behind teams they beat in duals earlier in the year.  Interesting.
10.  Good luck to all the Trailways wrestlers as they enter the WIAA series. 

My picks from the Trailways to make it to state...

106: Wilfong (Deer)
113: Hansen (Deer), Becker (JC),  (Gross and Hunter are close)
120: Ellison (Oak), Gilbertson (Deer)
126: Delaney (Deer), Hall (Prince)
132: Wichman (JC), Storms (Deer), Hebbe (Prince)...if he drops
138: No one
145: Dowling (OL)
152: No one
160: No one
170: Kemmerling (JC) or VanderGriten (Deer)...I could see this being a third place match at sectionals
182: Kuphal (Mark)
195: Seufzer (Dodge)
220: Uselman (JC)
285: Stensrud (Mark)

I could see 16 wrestlers heading tot he Kohl Center from the Trailways.  There are a couple sleepers and always upsets.  Should be fun.  Good luck boys and coaches.  It's time to get at it!
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 10, 2014, 08:13:21 AM
Nice wrap up BF Boy.

I don't have too much to add.

1) I think Becker is a heck of a wrestler that has a good chance of making the podium this year.  That being said, I think Hansen can end up very high if not at the top of the podium.  He looks nearly impossible to score on from any position.  I don't know how many wrestlers have scored on him this year, but I doubt many.

2) I don't like to complain about reffing on the forum as it often comes off as whining, but I have to agree that we need to do better.  I don't have an ax to grind as I didn't have any bad calls go against my son.  It was just painful to watch.  I'll leave it at that.

3) Hall is definitely a monster at 126.  He won't be giving up the length that he gives up at 132.  I predict that he will knock off at least one of the three seniors in that sectional (Kraus, Mudlaff, Wiese).

4) Becker, Ellison and Gonzales are all former conference champs returning next year also. (Total 12, I think)

5) I think that either Gross or Hunter will make it to state. I think it will come down to a head to head between them.

6) Haven't heard if Fehring from Lourdes will be back for regionals.  He would be another possible SQ.

7) Good luck the rest of the way. 
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Big House on February 10, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
Hansen is for real!
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on February 10, 2014, 12:16:53 PM
As hard as it is to admit I wrestled cal before the season and couldn't score on him. And I had 40 pounds on him :-[I
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 10, 2014, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: wrestling135 on February 10, 2014, 12:16:53 PM
As hard as it is to admit I wrestled cal before the season and couldn't score on him. And I had 40 pounds on him :-[I

I wouldn't feel bad, you're probably a member of a pretty large club.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 17, 2014, 09:12:46 AM
Quote from: RollTide on February 10, 2014, 08:13:21 AM

I think Becker is a heck of a wrestler that has a good chance of making the podium this year.  That being said, I think Hansen can end up very high if not at the top of the podium.  He looks nearly impossible to score on from any position.  I don't know how many wrestlers have scored on him this year, but I doubt many.

Shows you what I know.  A week later Becker wins the rematch 2-0.  I'm guessing they will meet a couple more times yet.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on February 17, 2014, 03:53:35 PM
I think these two will have a tight match everytime. They wrestle eachother twice a week at advancd so they are really use to eachothers  styles. Another tight match saturday 0-0 going into the 3rd hansen was called for a locked hands and becker got an escape. Both great wrestlers. Dischler is going to have to be ontop of his game this weekend or hw could very well end up 3rd coming out of sectionals.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 18, 2014, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: wrestling135 on February 17, 2014, 03:53:35 PM
I think these two will have a tight match everytime. They wrestle eachother twice a week at advancd so they are really use to eachothers  styles. Another tight match saturday 0-0 going into the 3rd hansen was called for a locked hands and becker got an escape. Both great wrestlers. Dischler is going to have to be ontop of his game this weekend or hw could very well end up 3rd coming out of sectionals.

I agree.  I will almost be surprised if Dischler beats both of them to win sectionals.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: boowrestle on February 18, 2014, 08:41:32 AM
  ;) Never bet against a state champ!I will be very surprised if Dischler doesnt win this sectional.Going to be fun to watch.



Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: wrestling135 on February 19, 2014, 06:55:01 AM
Quote from: boowrestle on February 18, 2014, 08:41:32 AM
  ;) Never bet against a state champ!I will be very surprised if Dischler doesnt win this sectional.Going to be fun to watch.

;D I'm doing it anyways :-*


Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 21, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
I don't think I'd bet either way.  Dischler is tough to figure.  I doubt very often a kid that doesn't qualify for youth state as an eighth grader wins state as a Freshman.  I'm not suggesting it was a fluke because he beat some pretty solid guys (Burns, Willemssen and Lull) to do it. Looking back at his history, I don't see where he ever placed in youth state.  I think that's pretty impressive to make that kind of improvement in such a short period of time.  Coaches there must be doing something right.

Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: CLC FAN on February 21, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
It's almost like youth wrestling results aren't a surefire indicator of HS success   ;D
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Wisco113 on February 22, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
Nice job to Hansen, Dischler, and Becker. This sectional should represent well at the state tournament.
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 25, 2014, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: CLC FAN on February 21, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
It's almost like youth wrestling results aren't a surefire indicator of HS success   ;D
No, its never guaranteed.  But the reality is that most freshmen that place at state, also had success at the youth level.  I can think of a handful of exceptions, but I can think of a lot more non-exceptions.   

That's what interests me in a kid like Dischler. 
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: RollTide on February 25, 2014, 06:49:32 AM
Quote from: Wisco113 on February 22, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
Nice job to Hansen, Dischler, and Becker. This sectional should represent well at the state tournament.
Agreed
Title: Re: This Year's Tournament
Post by: Wisco113 on February 25, 2014, 09:00:36 AM
maybe not qualifying for state in youth wrestling gave him the motivation to train harder and reach that goal?