Any way to track how this year's redshirts have been performing in open tournaments?
To add to the thread, does anybody have some specific insight/thoughts on the redshirts and their transition to possible varsity spots? As an example, it was evident Ricky R was going to slide into a varsity spot and would be able to excel right away. Which one(s) of the current crop of redshirts look like they are future players?
http://s201.trackwrestling.com/tw/seasons/MainFrame.jsp?TIM=1421774988362&twSessionId=mpiwmgaggxocdpc&loadBalanced=true
This link is all Wisconsin wrestling performances for the current season that were recorded on Track. You will have to some hunting and pecking, but, should have all the available information you are seeking.
I washed mine with the whites and now everything is pink... aargh... 8)
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
I thought he already was ?
Just remember, he will be going against a lot of other future studs.
Just starting his college career , kinda hard to say he is already there.he is already beating kids he lost to in high school so imo his future is bright
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
Just starting his college career , kinda hard to say he is already there.he is already beating kids he lost to in high school so imo his future is bright
Who has he beaten that beat him in HS? He didn't lose many, so I am curious. I looked at his RS year results and didn't see anyone of note.
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
like in 3 years?
unless he really bulks up I think he will be a bit small next year... I remember those saying he was taking it to Taylor in the room... yeah, makes me laugh every time I think of it. I would guess he barely walks around at 141, to move up that far from HS in two years will take a lot of time in the weight room. I see him with a winning records in the next year or two but not approaching AA contention until Jr or Sr years. He will be a very quality wrestler to have in the program, but they could always recruit someone even better in the next year or two and who knows. That is the crazy thing about B1G wrestling, so many studs you may not make your own team.
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on January 20, 2015, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
like in 3 years?
unless he really bulks up I think he will be a bit small next year... I remember those saying he was taking it to Taylor in the room... yeah, makes me laugh every time I think of it. I would guess he barely walks around at 141, to move up that far from HS in two years will take a lot of time in the weight room. I see him with a winning records in the next year or two but not approaching AA contention until Jr or Sr years. He will be a very quality wrestler to have in the program, but they could always recruit someone even better in the next year or two and who knows. That is the crazy thing about B1G wrestling, so many studs you may not make your own team.
I didn't want to rain on Jimmy's parade, but I feel the same way.... I remember when many thought Thielke would be a multi All American.
Gut wrench asked for a prediction , I gave one. I said future not tomorrow. Marmeleo beat him at the cheese. Jens recently returned the favor
Based on performances so far, I would say Ryan Christiansen is the only real likely starter next year out of the redshirts (at 174). Christiansen had 2 losses earlier in the year (1 to Nick Becker), but dominated his last tournament including majoring a good Iowa recruit. Stilling will likely push Christiansen at 174, as he has wrestled pretty well this year as well.
Assuming this is Thielke's last year at UW, Rowh and Lantz will be battling Grahek for 141. I would give Rowh a slight edge unless Lantz is able to get bigger over the next year.
Scharenbrock has a few loses this year but might be in the mix at 157. I would give Donar or a healthy Liegel an edge at this point.
197 could be a weak weight next year. Peissig appears to be the likely starter there next year, unless they decide to not redshirt Ritter.
We had to put up with J. Lantz for four long years. Comparing Jens to JT makes me, once again, realize most of the Badger followers are ignorant. If you talk about hard work, dedication, determination, and a goal, only one fits that description and its the farm kid from Ellsworth.
Quote from: NWIS1 on January 20, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
We had to put up with J. Lantz for four long years. Comparing Jens to JT makes me, once again, realize most of the Badger followers are ignorant. If you talk about hard work, dedication, determination, and a goal, only one fits that description and its the farm kid from Ellsworth.
Lol
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on January 20, 2015, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
like in 3 years?
unless he really bulks up I think he will be a bit small next year... I remember those saying he was taking it to Taylor in the room... yeah, makes me laugh every time I think of it. I would guess he barely walks around at 141, to move up that far from HS in two years will take a lot of time in the weight room. I see him with a winning records in the next year or two but not approaching AA contention until Jr or Sr years. He will be a very quality wrestler to have in the program, but they could always recruit someone even better in the next year or two and who knows. That is the crazy thing about B1G wrestling, so many studs you may not make your own team.
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It is funny how RT has been beat up in practice by Lantz and Jimenez according to this board. I really hope Lantz pans out. Hard working kid for all I have read about him. Best of luck to him! I will be watching for sure.
Quote from: TomM on January 20, 2015, 01:29:25 PM
I washed mine with the whites and now everything is pink... aargh... 8)
Time for a tie dye camouflage application.
Quote from: Musky Hunter on January 20, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on January 20, 2015, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on January 20, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
Jens lantz = future stud at 141. Pounds
like in 3 years?
unless he really bulks up I think he will be a bit small next year... I remember those saying he was taking it to Taylor in the room... yeah, makes me laugh every time I think of it. I would guess he barely walks around at 141, to move up that far from HS in two years will take a lot of time in the weight room. I see him with a winning records in the next year or two but not approaching AA contention until Jr or Sr years. He will be a very quality wrestler to have in the program, but they could always recruit someone even better in the next year or two and who knows. That is the crazy thing about B1G wrestling, so many studs you may not make your own team.
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It is funny how RT has been beat up in practice by Lantz and Jimenez according to this board. I really hope Lantz pans out. Hard working kid for all I have read about him. Best of luck to him! I will be watching for sure.
I think the big word in this sentence is "future" stud. Heck he isnt even through his reshirt year and still has 4 years to become a "stud" that I really hope he does.
being a 1 or 2 year AA in college is pretty good in my book. I know some that think if they dont AA in their first year it is a bad year but it is college and yes over the year many high school studs have not even made the roster so being an AA is pretty good for anyone!
Quote from: NWIS1 on January 20, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
We had to put up with J. Lantz for four long years. Comparing Jens to JT makes me, once again, realize most of the Badger followers are ignorant. If you talk about hard work, dedication, determination, and a goal, only one fits that description and its the farm kid from Ellsworth.
Amazing he could still win Senior World Team title without those attributes
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on January 21, 2015, 07:09:42 AM
Quote from: NWIS1 on January 20, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
We had to put up with J. Lantz for four long years. Comparing Jens to JT makes me, once again, realize most of the Badger followers are ignorant. If you talk about hard work, dedication, determination, and a goal, only one fits that description and its the farm kid from Ellsworth.
Amazing he could still win Senior World Team title without those attributes
Which makes it even more amazing he has little success with the Badgers. Resting on laurels maybe?
Sad how almost every thread has to turn into a JT bashing thread.....and it's the same couple of guys every time. ::) ::)
Just responding to what was posted with a opinion.
The vast majority of us are not in the wrestling room and have no idea who is working hard and who is injured. Thielke has not lived up to the expectation of Badger wrestling fans, and we have no idea why. I think the majority of us are frustrated with this because on and off the mat we really like this kid and want to see him succeed. I see no reason why some have to bash Thielke and put him down because he is not living up to fan expectations. I am sure he is even more frustrated with his situation than any of us could imagine. I am sure he is sick of the pressure that has weighed on him for 6 plus years as the savior to Wisconsin wrestling. I have no idea what Jesse should do with his wrestling career, so I simply won't speculate if he needs time off from the sport, or if he is injured, or if he can't get a handle on his weight.
When looking at in state recruits, I think guys like Thielke, Derringer, and Breske have to take a long hard look at wrestling in state for the Badgers. For some reason it seems like success comes a bit faster for kids like Derringer by going out of state. It would stink if Breske decided to go out of state, but it might be a better situation for him in the long run.
I just looked quickly at the Badgers record book. Since 2000 they have had 21 different aa . Only 6 have come from wi. Maybe the state as a whole is just behind the big gun states I.e. Pa. Iowa. Ohio ca. Etc. and the few exceptions like Dieringer would of excelled in madison right away .
Quote from: Jimmy on January 21, 2015, 10:40:35 AM
I just looked quickly at the Badgers record book. Since 2000 they have had 21 different aa . Only 6 have come from wi. Maybe the state as a whole is just behind the big gun states I.e. Pa. Iowa. Ohio ca. Etc. and the few exceptions like Dieringer would of excelled in madison right away .
I actually think Alex getting out of Wisconsin and wrestler under John Smith is a big reason he has had the success he has. Could he have been successful at UW? Sure....but not to the level he is now. Plus the home town/state distractions could have easily played its toll on Alex here also. Best situation for Alex is right where he is.
Quote from: Jimmy on January 21, 2015, 10:40:35 AM
I just looked quickly at the Badgers record book. Since 2000 they have had 21 different aa . Only 6 have come from wi. Maybe the state as a whole is just behind the big gun states I.e. Pa. Iowa. Ohio ca. Etc. and the few exceptions like Dieringer would of excelled in madison right away .
maybe it is not the state, but the recruits we get as since 2000 I can think of at least 8 or so WI wrestlers that AA for different schools... that makes at least 14 from the state and total AA's between them well over 20.
Will never get every recruit you want. I'm sure some of the ones who went elsewhere were on the Badgers minds and maybe even had offers. Other places could possibly offer more, the student might not want to go to WI and wants to go elsewhere. In our area (the northwest) the Gophers are more well known and easier to follow than the Badgers. Personally I would say we in WI are a little behind some of the states Jimmy mentioned. Not to say different years we could compete more with them than others either, always cyclical.
I just find it funny how some will stick up for one WI wrestler but at the same time not give really any credit to another WI wrestler. JT comes to mind as he is a polarizing topic on this board. Lantz seems to be one as well now. I know Jens and want to see him succeed. I do not know JT at all personally but still would like to see him succeed. We all have our more hometown kids we follow more and probably get a little more emotional over in our thoughts. Still they are both Badgers now. We can state our opinions but overall I think everyone wants to see them succeed. Let it play out and see how both do. I do think Jens will surprise some on here in the next few years. Hopefully JT surprises me and picks it up and AA's in the next few months.
It seems like this topic surfaces at least once a year, we have had much discussion about the Wisconsin wrestlers that just didn't work out. Does that come back to Barry and his staff? Had those wrestlers already hit their ceiling in high school? In my opinion, I think they have developed wrestlers at a pace the same as most other schools. Look at Donar this year, he is having a really good season.
Jesse may have been better off taking the Dennis Hall route, he may have continued to develop as a Greco wrestler. I appreciate him for sticking with the UW when not many else did.
Only time will tell for many of these wrestlers. Then we can sit back and pick at the wrestlers that didn't have as much success under Barry and how they should have picked John Smith.
That same year WI had three superior division I recruits, Dieringer, Thielke, and Sueflohn.
The Badgers recruited Thielke and now want to see him succeed.
It is only natural that Thielke is the most talked about WI wrestler on this forum.
The best guys on the Badgers team are all out of state guys.
We all want WI to have a successful team, and we all want to see a
few guys from WI high schools excel for the Badgers.
We all know that Dieringer made the right decision to go to Oklahoma State and
we all know that we badly want to see Breske become a Badger.
We also all know that Barry Davis has never taken a native Wisconsin wrestler and
made him a national champion in his near 20 years of being the head coach for WI.
We all have high hopes that Thielke can turn it around and want to help him in
and way possible so that he can succeed. I do not consider that bashing him.
So, about the performances of those guys who took redshirts this year...
I really hope Breske will go out of state, I personally would love to see him go down to Okie State with Dieringer!
If we lose Breske, that might be the end of my Barry supporting days.
I think aarons23 should be the next Badger coach....but I heard VMI is recruiting him to be there head assistant coach.
aarons23 if you think any of these posts, or any posts that I have made on this board are "bashing" then you need to put on your big boy pants. Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether or not you like it or not.
Quote from: wrestle03 on January 22, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
I think aarons23 should be the next Badger coach....but I heard VMI is recruiting him to be there head assistant coach.
aarons23 if you think any of these posts, or any posts that I have made on this board are "bashing" then you need to put on your big boy pants. Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether or not you like it or not.
Really? Should I start reposting your claims. Maybe you need to have someone educate you on what bashing means. Apparently your struggling with that.
A question I have is when recruiting, a school as Wisconsin have a higher academic requirements. In no way am I slighting student atheletes that don't score well enough. It just is what it is. But this has to limit Wisconsin wrestling IF these recruits do not meet enrollment criteria. I have 2 sons attending Madison and am fully aware it is more difficult to get into Wisconsin than say OkSt, or Minn. My guess even with Tudor assistance and summer school help some of our Wisconsin wrestlers recognize they wouldn't make it at Wisconsin. It does come to what school is the best fit within the capabilities of the student atheletes.
Quote from: head57 on January 22, 2015, 09:09:01 AM
So, about the performances of those guys who took redshirts this year...
:D
I have heard that Breske is an excellent student so there will be no problems there.
Naturally, every student athlete makes the choice that he feels is best.
If Wisconsin considers this a problem, you can imagine what Northwestern thinks.
If he goes to Rutgers, I'll be convinced that Donny is a Saint.
http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/big-ten-sat-scores.htm
Street Glide, MN/WI are pretty comparable according to this for entrance requirements. WI will have more applicants but to think there is a huge difference here between MN/WI is inaccurate.
Here are the ACT comparisons. Again, not much of a difference.
http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/big-ten-act-scores.htm
Quote from: MNbadger on January 22, 2015, 03:07:32 PM
http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/big-ten-sat-scores.htm
Street Glide, MN/WI are pretty comparable according to this for entrance requirements. WI will have more applicants but to think there is a huge difference here between MN/WI is inaccurate.
Here are the ACT comparisons. Again, not much of a difference.
http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/big-ten-act-scores.htm
Never said there was a Huge difference, where did I say that? But there is a difference for some student atheletes not to consider Wisconsin over Mn. Looking at those comparisons as I have there still is definite difference between the schools. What did you find out with OkSt? Point being Wisconsin will not get considered as a school of choice due to enrollment criteria for some student athletes. From student athletes I know that go to OkSt, Mn, and Wiscomsin the ACT scores needed are OkSt 15, Mn 19, and Wi 22. These are actual numbers minimally needed for the schools to work with you as told to me by athletes attending these schools. Whether this is a huge difference, I'll leave that for individual opinion.
Quote from: mkm13 on January 20, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Based on performances so far, I would say Ryan Christiansen is the only real likely starter next year out of the redshirts (at 174). Christiansen had 2 losses earlier in the year (1 to Nick Becker), but dominated his last tournament including majoring a good Iowa recruit. Stilling will likely push Christiansen at 174, as he has wrestled pretty well this year as well.
Assuming this is Thielke's last year at UW, Rowh and Lantz will be battling Grahek for 141. I would give Rowh a slight edge unless Lantz is able to get bigger over the next year.
Scharenbrock has a few loses this year but might be in the mix at 157. I would give Donar or a healthy Liegel an edge at this point.
197 could be a weak weight next year. Peissig appears to be the likely starter there next year, unless they decide to not redshirt Ritter.
Pretty fair analysis. Christiansen is looking good. I think both Lantz and Rowh have won 2 of 3 tournaments they've been at. I believe Rowh beat Grahek in the finals in the last entered tournament. Not sure what tournament Lantz placed 4th in, but did see he beat this Lewis kid 11/2 who was highly recruited.
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
Is that what he offered Askren? Interesting - if true. It would seem that either want him or not (he was of that caliber, and of that character). Why even waste everyone's time offering a 1/4 scholarship - he was going to get better offers elsewhere.
Quote from: npope on January 22, 2015, 05:35:17 PM
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
Is that what he offered Askren? Interesting - if true. It would seem that either want him or not (he was of that caliber, and of that character). Why even waste everyone's time offering a 1/4 scholarship - he was going to get better offers elsewhere.
Yes, that's straight from Askren. He offered Askren and Wunnicke to split a 1/2. When Askren went to Missouri Wunnicke got the full 1/2.
Being offered a quarter in state is proble like a half out of state
Ben will also tell you that Duke University didn't think he was good enough (actually athletic enough) to wrestle at their program. Yeah, Duke, the powerhouse that they were and are.
While we missed on Ben, recruiting is a long road. They then also missed on Max, Hucke, and likely Sueflohn. Sometimes you take a chance on a kid to start the pipeline.
I'm one o the biggest badger homers there is but I have to be honest. If Robinson, Smith, Brand's Sanderson, and Davis were recruiting my son? The last coach I would want him to pick would be Davis.
I think the entire state of Wisconsin thought Ben Askren was the best wrestler in the
state of Wisconsin by his sophomore year. I sure did. He put on a fantastic
show at the state tournament his sophomore year and if you missed that, then you
missed something special. I doubt Duke was there to watch it.
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: npope on January 22, 2015, 05:35:17 PM
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
Is that what he offered Askren? Interesting - if true. It would seem that either want him or not (he was of that caliber, and of that character). Why even waste everyone's time offering a 1/4 scholarship - he was going to get better offers elsewhere.
Yes, that's straight from Askren. He offered Askren and Wunnicke to split a 1/2. When Askren went to Missouri Wunnicke got the full 1/2.
And Ben paid as much to go to Mizzou as he would have at UW from what I recall as he rec'd a 3/4 offer there. If not the same, very close. I think Ben found a connection with Coach Smith and obviously his decision worked for him.
Quote from: billymurphy on January 22, 2015, 07:46:41 PM
I think the entire state of Wisconsin thought Ben Askren was the best wrestler in the
state of Wisconsin by his sophomore year. I sure did. He put on a fantastic
show at the state tournament his sophomore year and if you missed that, then you
missed something special. I doubt Duke was there to watch it.
I was coaching against him. Still think we got hosed on back points. ;D
Quote from: scfcat on January 22, 2015, 07:44:15 PM
I'm one o the biggest badger homers there is but I have to be honest. If Robinson, Smith, Brand's Sanderson, and Davis were recruiting my son? The last coach I would want him to pick would be Davis.
I agree and if I was breske I wouldn't go to wisconsin.
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: scfcat on January 22, 2015, 07:44:15 PM
I'm one o the biggest badger homers there is but I have to be honest. If Robinson, Smith, Brand's Sanderson, and Davis were recruiting my son? The last coach I would want him to pick would be Davis.
I agree and if I was breske I wouldn't go to wisconsin.
those coaches have better overall teams but doesn't mean it is a better school or better coach, not all kids fit well with their styles. Wisconsin is still a place where many kids have excelled. Did anyone expect Howe in finals as true fresh or champ in second year? Medberry might be a champ this year, what helped him leap the guys he was behind last year? Jordan is much better than I expected, I believe he can beat Bo and apparently he never has. We just graduated a 4 time AA. Would you also not send your kid to play football at Wisconsin because they can't seem to compete with top 5 teams year in and year out? Would you send them to Alabama, LSU, Oregon, Florida State instead? I'm not s huge supporter of BD, although I still think he is a good coach and makes good men, not to mention one of the best schools in the country.
Would you send your son to OK St if he was competing for a spot with Mark Hall and Chance Marstellar?
Basically everyone on the team this year is either wrestling as expected or better with the exception of 1 wrestler. There has been a lot of improvement overall. We are 5-0 in the big 10 including beating Nebraska and Northwestern, who are both good teams. Anyone who comes here will have good facilities, coaches, and practice partners to work with to continue to improve.
If Breske came to UW, he would have Brandvold, Ritter, Robertson, Christiansen and Jordan (for 1 year) to wrestle against in practice each day. Not sure there are many schools that can offer much more than that.
Quote from: scfcat on January 22, 2015, 07:44:15 PM
I'm one o the biggest badger homers there is but I have to be honest. If Robinson, Smith, Brand's Sanderson, and Davis were recruiting my son? The last coach I would want him to pick would be Davis.
First I would like to congratulate any kid that would get recruited by these coaches. Unless one is in that situation and listened to what all these schools really offered it would be hard to make such a decision with out knowing what really is on the table. Now if all these coaches just had wrestling camps, yes I guess I could see it being easier to pre pick who you would want. But reality is there is a lot more involved than just wrestling. There's academic choices, there's campus life, etc..and simply what would make my student a better person after wrestling is done. So many other factors than just wrestling. But hey everyone certainly has a right to their own opinion.
Does Barry do most of the recruiting now? I know 5-6 years ago Donny was doing most of it.
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
I know you are right, but I'd like to say that Henning definitely got screwed in the finals and should have been a champ.
Quote from: jchap on January 23, 2015, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: Barou on January 22, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
So Barry has never had a wi national champion. Since he has been HC wisconsin wrestlers have won 8 national titles by my count: Hartung 2, B Askren 2, Konrad 2, M Askren 1, and Dieringer 1 so far. Am I missing any? Out of those, guarantee all but maybe Dieringer would have been accepted at UW. Not sure if Barry made any offers to those NC's except for the 1/4 ride he offered B Askren.
I know you are right, but I'd like to say that Henning definitely got screwed in the finals and should have been a champ.
Agreed!!
If I were to speculate, I would say Barry is the guy recruiting the Ohio and Colorado guys, and Brandvold is the guy getting the Wisconsin and Illinois guys.
I base that on the fact that Barry personally was there in an Ohio gym watching one of the guys he was recruiting and Brandvold has a vastly better
knowledge base of Wisconsin high school wrestling and Brandvold personally attended the Illinois high school state meet. Wisconsin has seriously
needed an assistant coach with a pulse on Wisconsin wrestling for a long time so that makes Brandvold a very important coach for Barry to have there.
Brandvold would have been sleeping on Askren's couch trying to recruit him had he been on the Wisconsin coaching staff at the time.
Quote from: billymurphy on January 23, 2015, 01:36:41 PM
If I were to speculate, I would say Barry is the guy recruiting the Ohio and Colorado guys, and Brandvold is the guy getting the Wisconsin and Illinois guys.
I base that on the fact that Barry personally was there in an Ohio gym watching one of the guys he was recruiting and Brandvold has a vastly better
knowledge base of Wisconsin high school wrestling and Brandvold personally attended the Illinois high school state meet. Wisconsin has seriously
needed an assistant coach with a pulse on Wisconsin wrestling for a long time so that makes Brandvold a very important coach for Barry to have there.
Brandvold would have been sleeping on Askren's couch trying to recruit him had he been on the Wisconsin coaching staff at the time.
So will he be sleeping on Breske's couch?
Just don't like Wisconsin's wrestling style. Very defensive. Kids always seem to be on the defensive or back on their heels. The other teams coach's teams I mentioned always seem to b the aggressors. Always on the attack! Davis seems to truly care about his kids and has a ton of passion. Just not a fan of his coaching "style"!
Quote from: scfcat on January 23, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
Just don't like Wisconsin's wrestling style. Very defensive. Kids always seem to be on the defensive or back on their heels. The other teams coach's teams I mentioned always seem to b the aggressors. Always on the attack! Davis seems to truly care about his kids and has a ton of passion. Just not a fan of his coaching "style"!
Kinda like Jordan, Taylor, and Medberry tonight? Point taken regarding the others, though.
Quote from: Street Glide on January 22, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: mkm13 on January 20, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Based on performances so far, I would say Ryan Christiansen is the only real likely starter next year out of the redshirts (at 174). Christiansen had 2 losses earlier in the year (1 to Nick Becker), but dominated his last tournament including majoring a good Iowa recruit. Stilling will likely push Christiansen at 174, as he has wrestled pretty well this year as well.
Assuming this is Thielke's last year at UW, Rowh and Lantz will be battling Grahek for 141. I would give Rowh a slight edge unless Lantz is able to get bigger over the next year.
Scharenbrock has a few loses this year but might be in the mix at 157. I would give Donar or a healthy Liegel an edge at this point.
197 could be a weak weight next year. Peissig appears to be the likely starter there next year, unless they decide to not redshirt Ritter.
Pretty fair analysis. Christiansen is looking good. I think both Lantz and Rowh have won 2 of 3 tournaments they've been at. I believe Rowh beat Grahek in the finals in the last entered tournament. Not sure what tournament Lantz placed 4th in, but did see he beat this Lewis kid 11/2 who was highly recruited.
At UNI Open, Jens lost to Gasca of Mich State (ranked #10 at the time and has since been injured) and Synon of Missouri (who has been ranked in the top 20 this year).
I saw that Christiansen and Scharanbrock tore up the competition at last weekends tournament and I believe Lantz won 8-0 in the finals. Those 3 are looking really good!