Refs

[whatever]

Probably because there is no such thing as a defensive takedown or nearfall. Guessing that's why it wasn't called.

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That's a pretty good guess, Ghetto...😆

[bkraus]

Defensive takedown actually has a technical term.  Reversal!   

[Troy Grindle]

In arguably the most visible match of the entire tournament, the assistant ref waived off a locked hands call by the head ref in the Kitly v. Anglin match.

It is very hard to see them Zach is in the neutral (standing) position. You have to know his body actions. The correct call was made.

That match had be tough to officiate

After watching the replay on track of the match it clearly looked like there was a second locked hands call that both refs initially indicated then the assistant ref waved it off in the third overtime.  At the time Zach was in his "standing position" but his standing position is on his knees.  By the letter of the rule book wouldn't it be locked hands at anytime on him in that position when you are trying to mat return him with or without an arm because he is actually on his knees?  Curious how the refs would look at this? 

[foose4]

After watching the replay on track of the match it clearly looked like there was a second locked hands call that both refs initially indicated then the assistant ref waved it off in the third overtime.  At the time Zach was in his "standing position" but his standing position is on his knees.  By the letter of the rule book wouldn't it be locked hands at anytime on him in that position when you are trying to mat return him with or without an arm because he is actually on his knees?  Curious how the refs would look at this? 

This was discussed last year also.  The officials deemed him when on his knees "Standing" and not "Kneeling" so you can make the calls pertaining to takedowns and locked hands.  Had to be discussed ahead of time and reffed as discussed.

[Troy Grindle]

Is this a rule that just Wisconsin is using for this specific wrestler or is this a national rule?

[Pheasant 1984]

After watching the replay on track of the match it clearly looked like there was a second locked hands call that both refs initially indicated then the assistant ref waved it off in the third overtime.  At the time Zach was in his "standing position" but his standing position is on his knees.  By the letter of the rule book wouldn't it be locked hands at anytime on him in that position when you are trying to mat return him with or without an arm because he is actually on his knees?  Curious how the refs would look at this? 

This clears it up for me then! I was also curious!

This was discussed last year also.  The officials deemed him when on his knees "Standing" and not "Kneeling"
so you can make the calls pertaining to takedowns and locked hands.  Had to be discussed ahead of time and reffed as discussed.

[Wisconsin Wrestling Fan]

Why did the WIAA introduce the refs before the state finals?

Apparently this is more important than introducing the state finalists? 

[woody53]

Why did the WIAA introduce the refs before the state finals?

Apparently this is more important than introducing the state finalists? 

That has been done for years. Each Finalist is introduced before their match.

[Army Ant]

Is this a rule that just Wisconsin is using for this specific wrestler or is this a national rule?

National rules don't address this situation. For him, there was no difference between being on his knees and being on his "feet" so you have to make a special interpretation for that situation.

[Wisconsin Wrestling Fan]

Why did the WIAA introduce the refs before the state finals?

Apparently this is more important than introducing the state finalists?  

That has been done for years. Each Finalist is introduced before their match.

That does not make it right just because it has been done that way for years.  Every finalist used to be introduced prior to the whole meet "and" prior to their match. Personally I would rather see the handshake introduction before the meet than the video they had.

[woody53]

Why did the WIAA introduce the refs before the state finals?

Apparently this is more important than introducing the state finalists?  

That has been done for years. Each Finalist is introduced before their match.

That does not make it right just because it has been done that way for years.  Every finalist used to be introduced prior to the whole meet "and" prior to their match. Personally I would rather see the handshake introduction before the meet than the video they had.

Do you know how long that would take. We are in a TV time guidance program. I have been part of the State Tournament for 41 years. They stopped introducing the individuals before the start way back in the 80's because of the repetitiveness of it.

[woody53]

So you don't like the fact they introduced the Officials? Again they have been doing it for years. Why don't you like it now?

[maggie]

it's also an honor for the officials to be officiating at the tournament just as it is for the participants themselves...why would anyone have a problem with that?...

[MarkK]

I had no problem with any of the introductions.  Took away nothing from the wrestling and it was fine.  The wrestlers go their due at the beginning of the match and on the podium.  Not much more is needed.  Seems like a solution looking for a problem.

[DocWrestling]

The officials take great pride in being selected for state.  They earned it and deserve the recognition.  It is my understanding that many are retiring and wrestling is going to be hurting for officials with great experience in those big matches.