Team and Individual predictions?
Team wise, if Freedom was here they might have been able to beat Coleman.
Wittenberg took 2nd last year, we'll see how other teams compete I suppose.
Not quite the barnburner it used to be, nonetheless, still quite the task to win as a team/individual.
From my quick count there are 7 ranked teams there from WI:
bonduel
cedarburg
coleman
mishicot
random lake
southern door
wittenberg birnamwood
Should be a good two days of wrestling...I know I'm looking forward to it.
From looking at the head to head there are some really nice weights. 106 is going to be fun to watch.
I always enjoyed this tournament when we were in it and I was coaching. Well run, period!
Is it really 25.00? I know that the entrance fee in the past was outrageous already but this would be over-the-top. I hope that is not correct.
25 is the two-day pass. I hope they have a student price, otherwise that is really prohibitive for any kind of family trying to attend.
What is the cost to get into by Bi-state?
if you sneak in the back its free...
Quote from: padre on December 26, 2014, 03:30:22 AM
What is the cost to get into by Bi-state?
Bi State is $30 for students, $35 for adults for the 4 session ticket.
Quote from: Tews19 on December 25, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
63 teams? That's crazy. My oldest will be wrestling 106 there. I'm still in shock over the 25 bucks to get in per person though.
They do want their money I suppose... it costs money to run a tournament. Though I'm sure some of gets to be taken home, help pay for the wrestling club, etc. That is a bit high though...
Each weight class will have its studs that for sure. There are enough teams to ensure that.
I guess the Kohl Center costs a lot, so I figure they can do it too... Lots of good wrestling and everyone pitches in to support the wrestling community and what not.
Cedarburg may be able to give Coleman a run... Coleman MIGHT be out good wrestler, more like a day to day decision. We'll see.
Individual wise, just wait to see the Seeds lol and then you'll know
haha I guess i'll make another post.... what the heck.
I see they will release the lineups to the public today at noon, so you'll know soon enough, individual wise and what not.
I am sure some the fee goes to UWO for the facility use think about the costs bathroom supplies cleaning people heat etc.. $25.00 for both days does not seem that outrageous to me considering that many of the folks commute to the event.
Look at this way; all day wrestling for two days about $1.50/hour cheap entertainment for an adult.
Break it down by per match ........... not so bad......
Went to the movies on Christmas Eve day 4 adults by the time I got done the cost was over $65.00 for three hours.........🎄🎅
Good Points Ram Jet... it isn't too too bad. Though I wont be there but I'm the money is put to good use
126 will be fun to watch....that bracket seems to be stacked!!!!
Tepera Wright # 10 seed ??? I know how the seeding is set up but WOW. I think he deserves higher than 10!!!
That is pretty crazy.. if the seedings hold up Wright would knock off #7 Siolka (state runner up) in the Round of 16 and face #2 seed Acosta in the quarterfinals... which would be 2 probable state champs going at it. Cal Hansen came from 113 so I'm not sure if he will beat Acosta or Wright ...Hansen doesn't have as hard as a road as Wright and Acosta.
Are the seedings subject to change?
Coaches used to call in at designated time and can make request for change in seeds. Not sure if it is still like that
Quote from: DarkKnight on December 26, 2014, 12:32:45 PM
That is pretty crazy.. if the seedings hold up Wright would knock off #7 Siolka (state runner up) in the Round of 16 and face #2 seed Acosta in the quarterfinals... which would be 2 probable state champs going at it. Cal Hansen came from 113 so I'm not sure if he will beat Acosta or Wright ...Hansen doesn't have as hard as a road as Wright and Acosta.
Are the seedings subject to change?
These are pre seeds based on computer qualifications which is how they placed last year at OTW, State and record. Once all the coaches call in the seeds will change. Acosta may be first with Tempra and Hanson two or three. Siolka, Langer and Hickey should follow.
I hope things can still change otherwise this is bad for preble. The coach didnt enter any information for more than half his team.
Coaches called in before noon today.
Not sure if they'll change or not.
Placing at OTW is the highest criteria I think. If you haven't, you really have to work to get to the top.
Quote from: Ghetto on December 26, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
Coaches called in before noon today.
Not sure if they'll change or not.
Placing at OTW is the highest criteria I think. If you haven't, you really have to work to get to the top.
Yea it has to be a really good argument to over ride the criteria.
I see W-B could make some noise here in the team standings.
126# Acosta #1 Hansen #2 Wright #3 Langer #4
Quote from: WBBs Bro on December 26, 2014, 02:37:58 PM
126# Acosta #1 Hansen #2 Wright #3 Langer #4
Good deal.. Now Acosta and Wright can meet in the finals instead, if they can get past Hansen, Langer, and whoever else might give them a good shot.
Quote from: Ghetto on December 26, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
Coaches called in before noon today.
Not sure if they'll change or not.
Placing at OTW is the highest criteria I think. If you haven't, you really have to work to get to the top.
It seemed they got away from the highest criteria a lot this year. Quite a few instances people were jumped that I don't think really should have if going by criteria. Generally works itself out in the end.
Quote from: ramjet on December 26, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on December 26, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
Coaches called in before noon today.
Not sure if they'll change or not.
Placing at OTW is the highest criteria I think. If you haven't, you really have to work to get to the top.
Yea it has to be a really good argument to over ride the criteria.
I see W-B could make some noise here in the team standings.
Some odd decisions on bypassing at some of the lower weights....113 makes no sense in many ways in the seeding.
Hoping for a good couple days. ;D
Ehster 106/mcmillen 113 my picks
Sure are some loaded brackets (I'm looking at you 106 and 126) and lots of good wrestlers. I agree that it does seem like they moved a lot of seeds around which I think is for the better in a lot of cases. Lots of wisconsin lutheran kids that had terrible seeds thanks to not being at the tournament last year...but also some head scratching seeds such as 152 where the #1 seed has lost to the #2 seed and is still above him. I for one can't wait until Monday to see what happens on the mat.
Quote from: padre on December 26, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
Quote from: ramjet on December 26, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on December 26, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
Coaches called in before noon today.
Not sure if they'll change or not.
Placing at OTW is the highest criteria I think. If you haven't, you really have to work to get to the top.
Yea it has to be a really good argument to over ride the criteria.
I see W-B could make some noise here in the team standings.
Some odd decisions on bypassing at some of the lower weights....113 makes no sense in many ways in the seeding.
Hoping for a good couple days. ;D
I know I will take some heat for saying this but it has been my expereince smaller unknown schools get screwed at this tournament when it comes to seeding irregardless of the wrestlers record. I guess they have thier reasons for seeding but do not be fooled it is not all criteria. Then again to be the best, you have to beat the best and a challenge always is why most young men wrestle....
Hope you're guys have a great couple of days as well. 🏆
Where did the number 2 beat number 1 @ 152? I believe number 1 injury defaulted so I guess you could say he beat him? Either way those two seeds are very talented wrestlers and the match is a toss up. Would make for a very exciting final on Tuesday😊
Quote from: Vinsanity 4 on December 26, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
Where did the number 2 beat number 1 @ 152? I believe number 1 injury defaulted so I guess you could say he beat him? Either way those two seeds are very talented wrestlers and the match is a toss up. Would make for a very exciting final on Tuesday😊
Cedarburg duals. I also happen to know the score was in favor of the #2 before the injury default but meh. In the end the seeds don't mean anything as they have to all go out and wrestle the matches. I'm just glad that Fritz is good to go. It looked like it could have been a much worse injury when it happened.
I see Cedarburg is in the lead... wonder how long they can hold on to the top spot. Coleman will have about 8 placewinners... I see Cedarburg will get about 8 or 9 also.
Does anyone know why track is moving so slow? Stuck at work all day and a guy can't even get some results! Sheesh!!
Quote from: wrestling135 on December 29, 2014, 05:41:58 PM
Does anyone know why track is moving so slow? Stuck at work all day and a guy can't even get some results! Sheesh!!
Good question. I have my son down there texting watching his buddies me how kids are doing. track is way behind. Might be on the tourney end though and not Track.
In years past we've found that it's always on the tourney's end. It's not trackwrestling.
I do not understand why they do not have the dashboard?
Quote from: ramjet on December 29, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
I do not understand why they do not have the dashboard?
They are using paper bout sheets and not laptops
Quote from: Ghetto on December 29, 2014, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: ramjet on December 29, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
I do not understand why they do not have the dashboard?
They are using paper bout sheets and not laptops
Exactly....... :o
Anyone know what happened to Max Fisher?
Pretty sure his elbow is dislocated. But thats my from across the gym no knowledge at all viewpoint.
I hope he's OK. He left with his arm in some sort of air cast.
First time at this tournament. Very nice. Pretty big. Lots of wrestling. It would be nice to see them use dashboard on track and to cast the upcoming mats on the wall to track the wrestlers you want to see.
Excellent run tournament! As well as the announcements were made, I personally don't think that the large screens are necessary. We were at a tournament last weekend where they struggled to use track and/or verbal announcements in a way that would help anyone keep up with where there own wrestler was at.
Krattiger, that youngster is a very, very good wrestler in an upper-classman dominated weight class! Bravo to him!
My understanding is that to go paperless and use the dashboard, you need a few things.
1) Most important- reliable fast Wi-Fi
2) Laptops at every table with workers that have been trained on their use
3) All clocks purchased from trackwrestling so they sync with the software on the laptops
Can be a big jump in cost of technology as well as trained workers. Next step will be to have cameras at every mat synced with clocks and lap top to web stream all matches like at Midlands.
I will say the announcer did a fantastic job. I was able to know the matches I wanted to watch when I was listening for them. I just didn't know what to look for or listen for because I was behind on the track site. But their workers were excellent. I loved the enthusiasm I saw in the young girl that was doing running. Some good matches.
Big thanks to the Oshkosh on the Water organizers! This is always a first class tournament that caters to the wrestlers and fan experience.
Super tournament with 64 teams and some great wrestling! Top 5 wrestlers in each weight will be in the hunt for individual State Championships. Congratulations to Coleman on their 6th straight team championship. Putting 5 wrestlers into the championship match and having 3 champs was quite impressive for a school with an enrollment of just over 200! I'm not sure but they most likely have the lowest enrollment #'s of all schools in the OTW tournament.
I don't understand why the Post Crescent has zero coverage of the teams from their delivery area for this tournament. There were many wrestlers vying for podium positions from teams in their area and nothing to report??? This is the largest, in state, tournament over this two day period; how could they overlook it? I guarantee the cheesehead will see multiple articles, but why isn't OTW just as deserving?
Quote from: boowrestle on January 01, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
JMO,i will take the top 5 from bi state,head to head against top 5 from oshkosh at most of the wt classes,
I'm not sure what your opinion on the top five has to to do with him wondering why OTW doesn't get more media attention in that area.
Quote from: boowrestle on January 01, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
JMO,i will take the top 5 from bi state,head to head against top 5 from oshkosh at most of the wt classes,
Luckily you are never biased :o
Really no reason for the post except to discredit.
Quote from: padre on January 01, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: boowrestle on January 01, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
JMO,i will take the top 5 from bi state,head to head against top 5 from oshkosh at most of the wt classes,
Luckily you are never biased :o
Really no reason for the post except to discredit.
+1
there both major tournaments in our state as well at the badger and the northern badger, were luck to have such tough, well run tournaments .
Quote from: padre on January 01, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: boowrestle on January 01, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
JMO,i will take the top 5 from bi state,head to head against top 5 from oshkosh at most of the wt classes,
Luckily you are never biased :o
Really no reason for the post except to discredit.
+1
I agree. This reminds me of Talladega nights, when Farell says but I said no disrespect, after you say that you can say whatever you want.
Or how passive aggressive southern women can rip someone to shreds; but make it aaalllll okay by saying "bless her heart."
Every year there's a little difference in competition as teams move around. I don't know about this year; but I'm sure many years OTW has better wrestlers than Bi, Midstates, etc. At times Bi State has had unreal talent (I remember when Bloomington-Kennedy was highly ranked nationally. Marcus Levesseur :o). When L-C was peaking, they were OTW. Depends on the year.
Depends on the weight class also at each tourney. Many great outstanding wrestlers have never stood at the top of the podium at these holiday tournies. Have to have the right kind of 2-days of wrestling and stay injury free as well as sickness free!
I;m wondering how this yrs flu affected the kids in all these winter tournaments, it's the worse i seen in the last 25 yrs...
My son has been the sickest I have ever seen him this year and he's had it for over a month. He was on antibiotics 3 different times. He still is maybe 75% at best. Now my wife and I both got it about a week ago and I have never felt this bad in my life. I must have told him 1000 time "you got to be the toughest kid I know" we are almost hospital bound and he has not missed a practice. Wow to be young again. I think there will be some surprises come tournament time.
Quote from: handsandtoes on January 03, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
My son has been the sickest I have ever seen him this year and he's had it for over a month. He was on antibiotics 3 different times. He still is maybe 75% at best. Now my wife and I both got it about a week ago and I have never felt this bad in my life. I must have told him 1000 time "you got to be the toughest kid I know" we are almost hospital bound and he has not missed a practice. Wow to be young again. I think there will be some surprises come tournament time.
Yea not good, physically they are tore down some then exposure to the bug makes the wrestlers vulnerable to illness this time of year. OTW has always had to deal with flu then you get the bug spread during that tournament. Take care and get the rest and fluids. Both very very important.