WIWrestling.com High School Rank #4 | January 7, 2020

[WrestlingLife120]

Pretty bold of you to make an unranked freshman #2 after being a scorer for a single tournament and placing 7th in what was top 3 easiest weight classes

Just because he wasn't a scorer at the previous tournaments doesn't mean you can ignore those results..  And, at the cheesehead he beat the wrestler ranked right below him at #3 in the 7th place match 8-5.    In his previous tournament, he beat #9 14-2..   

The current #4 wrestler beat that same #9 5-3, so results say should be ranked above #4..  #4 beat #5 at OTW, so he should be ranked higher than #5.. #6 took 14th at the Cheesehead.. #7 took 11th at the Cheesehead, so clearly he should be ranked higher than those 2.  Can't find a good comp on #8..   So, given the results (and that 3 of the wrestlers finished below him in that "weak weight class" at the Cheesehead), where should he be ranked??  Which of the wrestlers ranked below him deserves to be ranked above him based on the results on the mat??  There aren't any.. 

What relevance does him being a freshman have?? clearly there are enough results on the mat to be able to do a ranking.

Also, who cares if he wasn't a scoring wrestler prior to the Cheesehead??  Look at the results and tell me where you think he should be ranked??  OR.. are you just upset that he was forfeiting to a teammate in the championship matches at a couple early season tournaments??

I'd say the ranking committee got this one exactly correct.

Just a thought, since he technically forfeited to the scoring wrestler from the same school wouldn't those count as losses on his record? Essentially he should have more than just the 2 losses from cheesehead. I think if a forfeit counts as a loss for other wrestlers who forfeit to wrestlers from other schools then it needs to count as losses for this kid.

[Numbers]

In D2 #1, #2, and #3 are all in the same sectional!

#1, #2, #3, #7, #8, and it's like that in that sectional almost year..

#2 and #3 are in the same regional, as are #5 and #6, and #7 and #8, and an individual tournament will decide the best team for a dual championship.. so, by the end of Regional weekend, at least 3 of the top 8 teams will be eliminated, eliminated based on an individually bracketed tournament.. It's entirely possible that the best dual team in the state never makes it out of regionals.

Change is hard for the WIAA.  Maybe the answer is to encourage people who understand wrestling issues to run for WIAA Advisory Council?

The Advisory Council was created in 1949 to assist the Board of Control. The Council consists of 18 elected administrators from senior high schools.

There are five members of the Council from large, medium and small school categories, a gender at-large representative, an at-large ethnic minority representative and an at-large nonpublic school representative.

The Advisory Council possesses the authority to initiate amendments for presentation to the WIAA membership and advises the Board of Control in formulating the aims and policies of the Association.

2019-20 Advisory Council
Large Schools Representatives (170 largest schools)

Matt Hendrickson, Madison Memorial (term expires 2021)
Dan Retzki, Green Bay Preble (term expires 2022)
Roger Rindo, Oconomowoc (term expires 2021)
Brian Schlei, Waukesha North (term expires 2020)
Chris VanderHeyden, Menasha (term expires 2022)
Medium Schools Representatives (170 medium schools)

Jim Brewer, Clinton (term expires 2021)
Greg Doverpike, Durand-Arkansaw (term expires 2022)
Scott Fritz, Howards Grove (term expires 2022)
Terrance Slack, Wisconsin Dells (term expires 2020)
Craig Olson, Hayward (term expires 2020)
Small Schools Representatives (171 smallest schools)

Michael Endreas, Spencer (term expires 2022)
James Erickson, Webster (term expires 2021)
Mark Gruen, Royall (term expires 2020)
Cory Hinkel, Luck (term expires 2021)
Chris Nelson, Iola-Scandinavia (term expires 2022)
At-Large Representatives

Mark Gobler, Regis (term expires 2021)
Cari Guden, Edgar (term expires 2021)
Mark Holzman, Manitowoc (term expires 2020)

[buc65]

Pretty bold of you to make an unranked freshman #2 after being a scorer for a single tournament and placing 7th in what was top 3 easiest weight classes

Just because he wasn't a scorer at the previous tournaments doesn't mean you can ignore those results..  And, at the cheesehead he beat the wrestler ranked right below him at #3 in the 7th place match 8-5.    In his previous tournament, he beat #9 14-2..   

The current #4 wrestler beat that same #9 5-3, so results say should be ranked above #4..  #4 beat #5 at OTW, so he should be ranked higher than #5.. #6 took 14th at the Cheesehead.. #7 took 11th at the Cheesehead, so clearly he should be ranked higher than those 2.  Can't find a good comp on #8..   So, given the results (and that 3 of the wrestlers finished below him in that "weak weight class" at the Cheesehead), where should he be ranked??  Which of the wrestlers ranked below him deserves to be ranked above him based on the results on the mat??  There aren't any.. 

What relevance does him being a freshman have?? clearly there are enough results on the mat to be able to do a ranking.

Also, who cares if he wasn't a scoring wrestler prior to the Cheesehead??  Look at the results and tell me where you think he should be ranked??  OR.. are you just upset that he was forfeiting to a teammate in the championship matches at a couple early season tournaments??

I'd say the ranking committee got this one exactly correct.

Just a thought, since he technically forfeited to the scoring wrestler from the same school wouldn't those count as losses on his record? Essentially he should have more than just the 2 losses from cheesehead. I think if a forfeit counts as a loss for other wrestlers who forfeit to wrestlers from other schools then it needs to count as losses for this kid.

Forfeits don't count as a loss if the match never started.  If you start the match and medical forfeit / injury default, that is a loss.  If you medically forfeit / forfeit before a match starts it is not a loss because the match was never started.

[Takedown Bro]

Pretty bold of you to make an unranked freshman #2 after being a scorer for a single tournament and placing 7th in what was top 3 easiest weight classes

Just because he wasn't a scorer at the previous tournaments doesn't mean you can ignore those results..  And, at the cheesehead he beat the wrestler ranked right below him at #3 in the 7th place match 8-5.    In his previous tournament, he beat #9 14-2..   

The current #4 wrestler beat that same #9 5-3, so results say should be ranked above #4..  #4 beat #5 at OTW, so he should be ranked higher than #5.. #6 took 14th at the Cheesehead.. #7 took 11th at the Cheesehead, so clearly he should be ranked higher than those 2.  Can't find a good comp on #8..   So, given the results (and that 3 of the wrestlers finished below him in that "weak weight class" at the Cheesehead), where should he be ranked??  Which of the wrestlers ranked below him deserves to be ranked above him based on the results on the mat??  There aren't any.. 

What relevance does him being a freshman have?? clearly there are enough results on the mat to be able to do a ranking.

Also, who cares if he wasn't a scoring wrestler prior to the Cheesehead??  Look at the results and tell me where you think he should be ranked??  OR.. are you just upset that he was forfeiting to a teammate in the championship matches at a couple early season tournaments??

I'd say the ranking committee got this one exactly correct.

Just a thought, since he technically forfeited to the scoring wrestler from the same school wouldn't those count as losses on his record? Essentially he should have more than just the 2 losses from cheesehead. I think if a forfeit counts as a loss for other wrestlers who forfeit to wrestlers from other schools then it needs to count as losses for this kid.

Forfeits don't count as a loss if the match never started.  If you start the match and medical forfeit / injury default, that is a loss.  If you medically forfeit / forfeit before a match starts it is not a loss because the match was never started.

Is it the coaches responsibility to let the tournaments know about that as?  Track wrestling counts it as a loss and I believe that's what tournaments use when seeding for individual tournaments right?

[crossface21]

Pretty bold of you to make an unranked freshman #2 after being a scorer for a single tournament and placing 7th in what was top 3 easiest weight classes

Just because he wasn't a scorer at the previous tournaments doesn't mean you can ignore those results..  And, at the cheesehead he beat the wrestler ranked right below him at #3 in the 7th place match 8-5.    In his previous tournament, he beat #9 14-2..   

The current #4 wrestler beat that same #9 5-3, so results say should be ranked above #4..  #4 beat #5 at OTW, so he should be ranked higher than #5.. #6 took 14th at the Cheesehead.. #7 took 11th at the Cheesehead, so clearly he should be ranked higher than those 2.  Can't find a good comp on #8..   So, given the results (and that 3 of the wrestlers finished below him in that "weak weight class" at the Cheesehead), where should he be ranked??  Which of the wrestlers ranked below him deserves to be ranked above him based on the results on the mat??  There aren't any.. 

What relevance does him being a freshman have?? clearly there are enough results on the mat to be able to do a ranking.

Also, who cares if he wasn't a scoring wrestler prior to the Cheesehead??  Look at the results and tell me where you think he should be ranked??  OR.. are you just upset that he was forfeiting to a teammate in the championship matches at a couple early season tournaments??

I'd say the ranking committee got this one exactly correct.

Just a thought, since he technically forfeited to the scoring wrestler from the same school wouldn't those count as losses on his record? Essentially he should have more than just the 2 losses from cheesehead. I think if a forfeit counts as a loss for other wrestlers who forfeit to wrestlers from other schools then it needs to count as losses for this kid.

Forfeits don't count as a loss if the match never started.  If you start the match and medical forfeit / injury default, that is a loss.  If you medically forfeit / forfeit before a match starts it is not a loss because the match was never started.

Is it the coaches responsibility to let the tournaments know about that as?  Track wrestling counts it as a loss and I believe that's what tournaments use when seeding for individual tournaments right?

Coaches enter all their wrestlers info prior to a tournament, including their record. So the coach just needs to enter in the correct record.