Always an great tournament with a lot of awesome matches. Lets hear some opinions.
After Anders Lantz's performance against Mica Johnson, I think he'll win it
106-Schoenfuss/Stratford 113-Hanson/Baraboo I hope Hannah/Viroqua is on opposite side it will make a good final. 120-Dischler/Weston Ithaca
126-Glinicki/Stratford 132-Pearce/Tomah 138-Bahr/West Salem Bangor 145-Martin/Lancaster 152 Ziolowski/DC Everest Schmidt/Verona 160-Withington/Westby
170-Mueller/Ellsworth 182-Haasse/Middleton 195-Wetter/Dodgeville
MHSfan,nothing like adding a little pressure ;),pretty good predictions but if he drops iam going with hatfield(river valley) at 106lbs.
i would expect Gliniecki to drop to 120 also and have Wenzel or Kauffman go to 126... but i could be wrong, Stratford might put in a good freshman at 120.
Should be a good tournament. I would say Kauffman would be the favorite at 126 if he goes there...but i could be wrong about that.
160 - Massie - Hudson
.Its really hard to predict alot of the wt classes at this tourney along with the other holiday tournies because you dont know who will drop and who wont now that the 2lb growth allowance will kick in.Although not able to drop mine says 2lbs is the best christmas gift he is getting! ;).Bi state is and always will be my favorite tournament besides state to watch,get all 3 divisions together and let them battle it out!!!!!
I'm anxious to see the younger Goergeon wrestle.
Sorry Boo, but I'm taking Hatfield if he doesn't drop.
Couldn't agree more with Hyde Hatfield has no reason to drop let him eat and stay strong
Pulaski has a possibility of 3 champs. Caelwaerts at 152/160, VanLanen at 195 and Micolichek at 285
I hope caelwaerts is at 152 possible matchup with Schmd(verona)
160- Massie- Hudson
170- Anderson- Hudson
Look for Frankie Lor from Wausau West to make some noise at 120, he's my pick.
keep an eye out for my bloomington kennedy boys. its a long shot that any of them will win it but i would say that they are going to pull some upsets. been wrestling very well lately
Settings out tonight at 9. Gonna be a great couple days of wrestling!
Lor has a good shot at 120lb, but there will be a ton of ranked wrestlers at 120lb, really tough weight class this year. It'll depend on who drops to 113lb. Many (Lor included) appear to have Skinfolded for 113. And some tough guys at 126 will probably drop. I'd expect Dischler and glinecki to be at 120lb. Should be exciting!
Wisco113,I have to disagree with who you think will win the 120 Lb bracket the winner of this bracket will be a very talented sophmore by the name of Jaden Van Maanen he will be on the top of the podium this year.He is battle tested and primed and ready to take this bracket.
Quote from: WW_1995 on December 24, 2014, 05:09:57 AM
Look for Frankie Lor from Wausau West to make some noise at 120, he's my pick.
While Frankie is a good wrestler he is not the level of a few that will be there IMHO.
Dischler,Van Maanen would make a great finals matchup.
Here is a list I have compiled of Bi-State competitors by weight who either placed last year at Bi-state or at least qualified for their respective state tournament last year. There are a few big names not on this list who for whatever reason didn't compete in the event last year or qualify for state (injury, etc) Off the top of my head here are some other names to consider: Caelwarts and Beers (Both former sate place winners)
106
NA
113
Kyle Cavanaugh -- Caledonia / Houston / Spring Grove
Lorenzo Diaz -- South Saint Paul
Trevor Hanson -- Baraboo
Dustin Hatfield -- River Valley
Clay Lieber -- Nekoosa / Assumption / Port Edwards
Chris Ruf -- Mauston
Kyle VanGalder -- DC Everest
120
Manning Denk --DC Everest
Hunter Dischler -- Weston / Ithaca
Anthony Glinecki -- Stratford
Brandon Henke -- La Crosse Logan
Luke Iverson -- Burlington
Noah Reedy --West Salem / Bangor
Jaden Van Maanen -- La Crosse Central
126
Dylan Altmann -- Auburndale
Jake Obert -- La Crosse Central
Justin Stemper -- Caledonia / Houston / Spring Grove
Don Veverka --DC Everest
132
Josh Bird -- Burlington
Brett Cade --Westby
Stetson Clary --Weston / Ithaca
George Farmah --Eastview
Mitchell Golke --Portage
Hunter Hauser-Caldwell -- Caledonia / Houston / Spring Grove
Matt Koski -- Hudson
Curt Palodichuk --South Saint Paul
Eric Peters -- Luxemberg-Casco
Hunter Pierce -- Tomah
Bradley Prentice -- Pulaski
Sam Wenzel -- Stratford
Gavin Wipperfurth -- River Valley
Bryce Younger -- New Richmond
138
Devin Bahr -- West Salem / Bangor
Brady Bastyr -- Lakeville South
Mason Berceau -- Luxemberg-Casco
Josh Donar -- Cuba City / Benton / Southwestern
Ben Hornickle -- Burlington
Andre Mayllen -- Baraboo
Trevor Oberg -- South Saint Paul
Bradon Roen -- Riverdale
145
Elijah Alt -- River Valley
John Maki -- Mauston
Cole Martin -- Lancaster
Kyle Routhieaux -- Luxemberg-Casco
Lucas Shenkenberg -- Burlington
Drew Stemper -- Caledonia / Houston / Spring Grove
Paul Willfahrt -- Auburndale
152
Derek Dowd -- New Richmond
Ryan Duffy -- South Saint Paul
Wes Gavin -- Burlington
Nick Houlihan -- La Crosse Logan
Anders Lantz -- Ellsworth
Zachary Raymond -- Baraboo
Dustin Reynolds -- Lancaster
Eric Schmid -- Verona Area
Joe Ziolkowski -- DC Everest
160
Shay Haase -- Middleton
Mitch Hertel -- Marshfield
Josh Hines -- Ellsworth
Sawyer Massie -- Hudson
Matt May -- Pulaski
Caleb Neumann -- New Richmond
Casey Persike -- Lodi
Dalton Peterson -- Lakeville South
Jacob Poches -- Portage
Jared Roen -- Riverdale
Conner Williams -- La Crosse Central
Ross Withington -- Westby
Tyson Wolf -- Lancaster
170
Dylan Anderson -- Hudson
Tanner Baine -- Wausau West
Taggert Haase -- Middleton
Brady McFarland -- Muskego
Luke Nowak -- Iowa Grant / Highland
Wyatt Weiler -- Auburndale
182
Matt Blome -- Mount Horeb
Kamren Bornbach -- Stratford
Luke Dodd -- Eastview
Justin Giebel -- New Lisbon
195
David Chadd -- Lancaster
Silas Coleman -- Richland Center
Dakin Coons -- Verona Area
David Gale -- Baraboo
Josh Lang -- Marshfield
Chris Marks -- Burlington
Bryce Murray -- Stratford
Levi Van Lanen -- Pulaski
Brady Wetter -- Dodgeville
220
Aaron Broer -- West Salem / Bangor
Hunter Kauffman -- Stratford
Adam Lucast -- Lakeville South
Charles Serauskas -- Holmen
Kyle Soderstrom -- Iowa Grant / Highland
Hegeman Tiedt -- Burlington
Paxton Woods -- South Saint Paul
285
Sean Benedict -- Middleton
Hunter Micolichek -- Pulaski
Jon Zeidler -- Lakeville South
LET THE PREDICTIONS BEGIN!!!! Remember this list is only based off performance from last year's bi-state and state tournaments. There are many wrestlers NOT listed who are likely to place high at this year's Bi-State Classic. Line-ups are released to the public on trackwrestling at 9:00 pm to see all the details.
Quote from: boowrestle on December 26, 2014, 06:40:09 PM
Dischler,Van Maanen would make a great finals matchup.
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I'll agree with you on this one . Jaden is a solid wrestler in every position. It's going to be a close match but I think Jaden should handle him just fine.
I would have to pick Dischler based on size and speed alone. It'll be a tough road for both just to make it to the finals though. Good luck to all the wrestlers!
106-A.J. Schoenfuss, Stratford
113-Dustin Hatfield, River Valley
120-Jaden Van Maanen, LCC
126-Don Veverka, DCE
132-Josh Bird, Burlington
138-Devin Bahr, WS/B
145-Cole Martin, Lancaster
152-Joe Ziolkowski, DCE
160-Jarod Roen, Riverdale
170-Luke Nowak, IG-H
182-Matt Blome, MH
195-David Chadd, Lancaster
220-Hunter Kauffman, Stratford
HWT-Jon Zeidler, Lakeville South
Happy picking everybody! Should be a great tournament to watch, like always.
Looks like Connor Williams is now @ 152.
106: schoenfuss
113: Hanson
120: Dischler
126: veverka
132: bird
138: Bahr
145: Martin
152: ziolkowski
160: roen
170: Novak
182: bornbach
195: chadd
220: gorr
Hvywt:Benedict
Maybe there was a mistake?? most likely, is the explanation I would go to....they just put him at the wrong weight class.
I see you picked Altmann for the finals at 126, It will most likely be Stratford's Mason Kauffman.... in my book
Quote from: DarkKnight on December 27, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Maybe there was a mistake?? most likely, is the explanation I would go to....they just put him at the wrong weight class.
I see you picked Altmann for the finals at 126, It will most likely be Stratford's Mason Kauffman.... in my book
but veverka v. kaufmann in semis?
True, But I see Altmann losing in the Quarterfinals... if the seeds stick. which I believe they are subject to change..... Altmann is 7-4 and wrestled 106 last year. I look at the other kids and don't see Altmann as a true top seed.
I think the seeds may change... but I might be wrong.
I pick Kauffman to beat Verveka besides... just who I see as a little bit better.
106: Schoenfuss
113: Lieber
120: Van Maanen
126: Kauffman
132: Bird
138: Bahr
145: Martin
152: Schmid
160: Roen
170: Haase
182: Blome
195: Chadd
220: Kauffman
285: Micolichek
The seeds listed are only auto seeds. The coaches have call in times on Sunday to argue for a better seed.
Quote from: DarkKnight on December 27, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Maybe there was a mistake?? most likely, is the explanation I would go to....they just put him at the wrong weight class.
Mistake? Maybe??? I believe this is 2 years in a row a change in weight classes has happened once the seedlings came out. There was also a post earlier stating how stacked 160 was and has since been withdrawn. Mistakes happen ;)
Quote from: standup on December 27, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: DarkKnight on December 27, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Maybe there was a mistake?? most likely, is the explanation I would go to....they just put him at the wrong weight class.
Mistake? Maybe??? I believe this is 2 years in a row a change in weight classes has happened once the seedlings came out. There was also a post earlier stating how stacked 160 was and has since been withdrawn. Mistakes happen ;)
IF you want to ask a question then go to the source. There was a mistake or should I say miscommunication with the coach and athlete. The change was asked for way before any seeds(auto seeds) came out- it was asked on Wednesday.160 is stacked and the post wasn't withdrawn on purpose-another mistake by pressing too many buttons on a small phone. 13 Ranked kids(D3 #1&2) are at 160 but the wrestler moved to 152 where you have D1 #1 & #2 and Caelwarts who they may wrestle at State.
Just wanted to clarify the information- Mistake? Maybe???? Sure love public forum gossip.
Ha. well that's what this is, and it is what it is. You would need to ask the people in charge of the tournament, but it is what it is.. .I'm would guess he was planning to cut to 152 all along, Not just a last minute decision. But I'm just guessing since I don't really know
Williams capable of winning 160 or 152. In fact 160 is more wide open then 152 IMO about 6 or 7 kids that could win and they are not all in the top 7 auto seeds.... If they can go there per 1/2 lb since their last match, and it does not hurt a teammate or team for scoring then who cares..
If Schoenfuss is eveyones automatic pick for 106 why is he not seeded #1
Question: Does anyone know who is the lowest seeded kid to win the Bi-state classic(any weight)?
Everybody needs tto go read the seeding criteria tthat bi state uses,wrestlers are 1st ranked by catagory,i believe 1-8,this is determined by past bi state/state results.Freshman need to pay their dues their first yr at bi state.126lbs #1 seed has been brought up,the current #1 seed although a 7-4 record,he placed top 5 at state last yr which places him in catagory #3 which is higher than the other participants.Look at 113lbs top 2 seeds.8-1 over 18-0,top kid was 3rd at both bi state/state,#2 was 5th at both(difference between catagory #1 and #3).Old saying"if you want to be the best you have to beat the best."Bi state seeding does a prettty good job of gettting the top 4-6 seeds correct and after that its preety much a crap shoot anyways.Good luck to everybody.
Love the clarification boo,best of luck in the days ahead. New saying:(Put yourself in wars to become a warrior.)
That kid needs someone else taking care of his paper work. Because last year if I'm not mistaken he was at 145 until seeding came out then went to 152. Wow what poor paper work skills (or bad luck) that that same thing could happen 2 years in a row! In order to be the best you need to beat the best. And you should not post how tough the weight class is if you don't plan to have him wrestle there. Good kid and good wrestler but gets pretty tough to cheer for someone that keeps trying to take the easy path!
Quote from: dirt on December 28, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
That kid needs someone else taking care of his paper work. Because last year if I'm not mistaken he was at 145 until seeding came out then went to 152. Wow what poor paper work skills (or bad luck) that that same thing could happen 2 years in a row! In order to be the best you need to beat the best. And you should not post how tough the weight class is if you don't plan to have him wrestle there. Good kid and good wrestler but gets pretty tough to cheer for someone that keeps trying to take the easy path!
Easy path? What are you smoking? Schmid, Caelwarts and Ziolowski are the best! I would argue the point more but my last post was pretty clear why it happened this year. Look at the top 3 vs top 3 at 160. Not even close and Withington/Roen are good kids. Dirt maybe you should look at the kids first. The kid doesn't need fans that criticizes choices and hide behind screen names. The kid doesn't run from anyone and is wrestling with a torn shoulder.
Some people just think they are above the"LAW" :P
Quote from: mat time on December 28, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Some people just think they are above the"LAW" :P
No horse in this race but mat time that's pretty funny
Good luck to all....what a great tournament
Dirt,if you dont know the facts ,stay out of it,Williams doesnt run from anybody!!!!and no iam not from LaCross either.
Yeah funny mat time! I wonder where u came up with that witty little phrase? ;D
That Mat Time is a creative guy :)
Mike good luck at Cheesehead!
Anybody know when they are releasing brackets?
9pm I was told but they are starting to show up now.
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE! HUM????
One??? Dirt its okay to make mistakes.
One thing that confuses me is the fact that some top seeds have first round matches while some lower seeds have first round byes....
Not that it matters for the top seeds, but the lower seeds should be able to wrestle each other instead of giving one lower seed a bye and the other lower seed a top seed.
I guess it's just the way they make the brackets, which I guess works itself out as the tournament goes.
Dirt there must be a conspiracy going on that we knew Ziolowski was being pulled from the tournament but was listed on the auto seeds. Maybe he is running from Williams?? Just kidding- Joe is an outstanding wrestler and I hope he returns soon. Dirt look at the bracket - Caelwarts is still there along with a few others so there is more than 1 stud. I guess wrestling a State Runner up in D1 isn't considered good to Dirt. In Dirts perfect life maybe a kid should wrestle 2 brackets and nobody ever make a mistake :) not worth my time even discussing it even more. Wow and other wrestlers dropped weight classes tonight. Dirt you better start looking into their reasons or maybe just let them wrestle. Just my opinion.
Good Luck to all the wrestlers tomorrow.
Dark night I believe byes are thrown in randomly.
Iceman as long as you are filling us in on conspiracys Bahr must have dropped to avoid some one too.
Quote from: MHSfan on December 28, 2014, 09:46:12 PM
Iceman as long as you are filling us in on conspiracys Bahr must have dropped to avoid some one too.
Yep He is running too :)
Lol okay...
and Dirt its okay to make mistakes....I think you made one too but that's okay, just say your sorry ;)
Wrestlers got to run to get into good condition.
How do I get into Bi-state? Please be specific. Thank You.
Go to Trackwrestling
Click on Browse then on left side click tournaments
Click search
Enter bi-state
Should get you there Quad, you will like what you will see ;)
Thank You and yes I like what I see.
What happened to Caelworts in the quarter finals?
The match was very intense and I had to rewatch the video several times to see exactly what happened:
Caelwerts was up 6-1 and Connor hit a standing granby putting Caelwarts on his head. After 2-3 minutes of medical injury time Caelwarts tried to continue while Connor was on top. The score was 7-4 and there was a crossface at the end of the 2nd period. Caelwarts appeared to be really hurt and couldn't get off the mat. He eventually stood up and shook his head that he couldn't continue.
I hope Caelwarts is alright. It was a battle that everyone wanted to see happen but ended with an injury. Caelwerts was helped off the mat and while Connors hand was raised he reached over and raised Caelwerts hand.
hey quad you should be able to watch it live go to www.vernontel.com then on the right side it should say watch channel 14 live. my brother in law said he was watching in alabama i go to the matches so i have never tried it but give it a shot
hey iceman you still buying
Quote from: ICEMAN112 on December 29, 2014, 10:42:10 PM
The match was very intense and I had to rewatch the video several times to see exactly what happened:
Caelwarts was up 6-1 and Connor hit a standing granby putting Caelwarts on his head. After 2-3 minutes of medical injury time Caelwarts tried to continue while Connor was on top. The score was 7-4 and there was a crossface at the end of the 2nd period. Caelwarts appeared to be really hurt and couldn't get off the mat. He eventually stood up and shook his head that he couldn't continue.
I hope Caelwarts is alright. It was a battle that everyone wanted to see happen but ended with an injury. Caelwarts was helped off the mat and while Connors hand was raised he reached over and raised Caelwarts hand.
Uff. Hope it isn't very serious. Caelwarts has a bright future.
I'd say Williams has a bright future. What he did was the definition of a class act. That kind of respect takes a guy places in life. It's always good to hear stories like that. ( Not on Caelwarts part, obviously) Hats off to you!
from what i understand caelwarts has a long history of concussions. i wish the best but i sure hope everyone involved takes this very seriously. concussions as we know are nothing to mess around with. especially multiple concussions.
Sounds like Williams is a class act.
Sorry to hear Caelwarts has a history. Hope this is just a bump in the road for the young man.
I'll have fun watching today.
Enjoy, gents.
What happened to Bahr?
Quote from: Bones on December 30, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
What happened to Bahr?
I hope someone fills us in Bones... a potential 4-timer suffering an injury is kind of a big deal.
I believe this is Caelwarts Senior Year, great wrestler ... it will be a little sad if he cant finish his career on a positive note.
from what i understand Bahr tore acl in match against Berceau. they were scrapping hard and ended up out of bounds. now this is what i heard from a pretty good source, so not from anybody from westsalem/bangor.
My bad on spelling,, ACL. Feel for the kid.
Who got MOW?
Jayden Van Maanen