Quote from: 145Firemanscarry on May 04, 2024, 07:05:46 AMMy 2 cents:
To basically circumvent current rules in place that protect coaches and student/athletes from the "more, more, more" mentality and say that Greco & Freestyle is different , I believe is irresponsible.
As a high school coach of 30 years that had wrestlers consistently qualify and place at the State tournament, I have a different view regarding that some coaches vote against the idea of having more contact time - and it's not because they "don't want to look bad" compared to neighboring communities.
I contend that maybe some coaches are capable of getting great results in the time that they work with their wrestlers from Nov - March. And in reality, if you're not able to move the needle with regard to in-season success during that time, then maybe you need to look in the mirror and reassess what and how you're doing business.
I also believe there is value, which I saw through the years with some of our wrestlers, in the Greco/Freestyle wrestling. However , instead of being in the practice room in the Spring/Summer, rely on your in-home club to deliver the coaching, practice , strategy, etc.... This allows your high school coaching staff to get the natural time-away break from their athletes as well as the athletes getting a break from their coaches. That's a good thing!! And, the kids are still getting exposure to the positive benefits of what Greco/Freestyle wrestling offers.
More time together with their high school athletes is a slippery slope. I believe it puts undo pressure on the athlete to do "more" and that's not a good thing. It's ok to tell kids to take a break, be a kid, enjoy/experience other things than wrestling. We'll get together again in Nov. and work hard through March!
Again , this is my view, but it's based on high-level success through the years. And, success was achieved through not only hard work in the practice room, but also by teaching our athletes the value of being a good team mate, good student, being ethical , not taking short cuts, etc...core value type of things. You can do all of this from Nov - March and have your wrestlers reap the benefits..."more" time together is not the simple answer nor is it the "right" answer from where I stand.
Respectfully,
Success without "more"
Quote from: panther93 on Today at 11:38:38 AMAs a HS coach I had to sit back and watch three of my wrestlers as a fan due to the rules. I was able to coach my son and another wrestler who is a senior. These rules are stupid, IMHO. I understand the intent, but with freestyle and greco having their season in full swing during the school year makes this really hard on our sport.
Quote from: dman on Today at 10:58:19 AMI'm not saying the UM does or doesn't care about wrestling, but curious as to the "why's" people think that they don't? Seems like McIntosh goes to the matches. They gave Bono a high paying contract. I get the wrestling room isn't the greatest but I heard there are plans for that when they redo the football "stuff". And the UW "sticking with" Bono doesn't mean they don't care about wrestling, but rather he really hasn't screwed up too bad at this point to just fire him with no plan in place. I also believe if there was a chance the Badgers could get a David Taylor type head coach, and the UW had the financial backing to pay him and the wrestlers, I truly believe the UW would do so. At the same time I have a hard time believing the UW is hurting for money.
My $0.02 for UW to even begin to compete with the Penn St.s, OKST's, etc....UW needs to bring in a big-name DT type coach, build the wrestling facility sooner than later, make amends with the Askren's (ex. hire one of them), and keep the AWA and other club kids in state at all costs.
Quote from: Armdrag on Today at 09:53:54 AManother interesting stat, but would be fairly difficult to collect the data..........how many of these kids attend multiple clubs???