Wow! OK, I am eating my shoe heel right now. I didn't have much hope for the season, but am sold on the improvement the team and coaches have made. Completely sold!
The Badgers have 7 automatic qualifiers, and if they review any film of Jesse Thelke, we should and will have 8!
While we didn't have any champions, we did show up big across the board. Not going to mention a comparison of performance-to-seedings because that means squat when you step on the mat. Perform or go home.
The only real negative was not seeing Jackson Hein advance. Plagued by injuries all year, he just wasn't himself on the mat once the Big Ten's arrived. He will be remembered as an aggressive, battler, who qualified for his first trip to the NCAA championships last year, with a seventh place finish at 197 lbs., at the Big Ten championships. He is a great kid with a lot of heart.
Thanks, Madison and the UW Athletic Department, for putting on a great show. Truly great tournament and fun experience. Congrats to the team on a stellar performance!
On Wisconsin,
The Union Chair has spoken.
I will say yes, but maybe we should let #4 give his opinion ;)
Sorry, couldn't help it.
And yes, the UW, The Kohl Center, and all the Wisconsin Wrestling Volunteers, put on a fantastic show.
Quote from: theunionchair on March 09, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
Wow! OK, I am eating my shoe heel right now. I didn't have much hope for the season, but am sold on the improvement the team and coaches have made. Completely sold!
The Badgers have 7 automatic qualifiers, and if they review any film of Jesse Thelke, we should and will have 8!
While we didn't have any champions, we did show up big across the board. Not going to mention a comparison of performance-to-seedings because that means squat when you step on the mat. Perform or go home.
The only real negative was not seeing Jackson Hein advance. Plagued by injuries all year, he just wasn't himself on the mat once the Big Ten's arrived. He will be remembered as an aggressive, battler, who qualified for his first trip to the NCAA championships last year, with a seventh place finish at 197 lbs., at the Big Ten championships. He is a great kid with a lot of heart.
Thanks, Madison and the UW Athletic Department, for putting on a great show. Truly great tournament and fun experience. Congrats to the team on a stellar performance!
On Wisconsin,
The Union Chair has spoken.
And I am listening to the Union Spokesman and impressed. :-)
I thought Timmy McCall wrestled well. Better than I expected.
Yes he did. Most stepped it up. Jackson had a rough tournament, but that will not take away my respect for him, his family, or for what he has provided for us UW Wrestling fans. Be strong Jackson. There is a reason for everything.
What an AWESOME weekend of wrestling....
Shout-outs go to:
All the staff and volunteers that made for a silky-smooth tourney. Several of us commented on this.
Justin Tritz- In our booth, we all agreed he and his staff have improved wrestling tournaments across the country.... start writing down what we now take for granted related to running a tournament and as a fan following compared to 10-15 years ago. Isn't is a bit crazy that soon much of the wrestling population will just think that "is just how it has always been"- dating myself here:)
Officials- thought they did very well.
Badger Wresters- I'm proud for them. Thought they wrestled very well. Best wishes to all of them in less than two weeks.
David Taylor- first 4-time undefeated wrestling in Big Ten competition history? I feel lucky to be able to watch such a talent. Hope he hits the weights (more) and represents USA at 185 (or whatever it is). I can dream, right?
Hawkeye fans- Don't always agree with them, but they know how to make noise and support their wrestlers. I thought we did well too, but have some work to do to reach their level:)
All in all, I am deeply humbled by the greatness (and the incredible work that it takes) of the young men I watched this weekend. Bravo. Thank you. Best wishes as you all strive for your goals at the NCAA's.
#4 here. So UW is sending 7 to the NCAA's. Is that an improvement over last year, yes but they still finished 7th in the big 10. That's like saying its acceptable for the Packers to take 3rd in the division because they sent 8 guys to the pro bowl.
The fact is that UW placed 4th at the big 10"s in 2011, Pritzlafs last year here and they have been in the bottom half ever since
Seriously bert, why even visit this forum if all you are going to do is hate...... get lost! Go to the Mich forum & rub Donnys back..... great job Bucky, it's getting better and better! & congrats to all who put this whole tourney together, I had a great time all weekend! Does it really get any better as a wrestling fan?
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
#4 here. So UW is sending 7 to the NCAA's. Is that an improvement over last year, yes but they still finished 7th in the big 10. That's like saying its acceptable for the Packers to take 3rd in the division because they sent 8 guys to the pro bowl.
The fact is that UW placed 4th at the big 10"s in 2011, Pritzlafs last year here and they have been in the bottom half ever since
Just for fun...What program has IMPROVED the most the last 2 years at Big Tens? (2012 to 2014)
Penn State (149-151-140.5) -8.5
Iowa (126-133.5-135) +9.0
Minnesota (134-139-118.5) -15.5
Illinois (105.5-85.5-78.5) -27.0
Ohio State (91-109-86.5) -4.5
Northwestern (75-56-58) -17.0
**(Iowa is the only team to improve from the top half of the 2012 team finishers)
Michigan (66-75-71.5) +5.5
Nebraska (65-61-79) +14.0
Purdue (51.5-38-34.5) -17.0
Indiana (41-30.5-37) -4.0
Michigan State (41-22-21.5) -19.5
Wisconsin (9-37-73)
+64.0 **Sure 2012 was bad for the Badgers but NO other team improved more than 14 points over 2 years ago.
Quote from: Numbers on March 09, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
#4 here. So UW is sending 7 to the NCAA's. Is that an improvement over last year, yes but they still finished 7th in the big 10. That's like saying its acceptable for the Packers to take 3rd in the division because they sent 8 guys to the pro bowl.
The fact is that UW placed 4th at the big 10"s in 2011, Pritzlafs last year here and they have been in the bottom half ever since
Just for fun...What program has IMPROVED the most the last 2 years at Big Tens? (2012 to 2014)
Penn State (149-151-140.5) -8.5
Iowa (126-133.5-135) +9.0
Minnesota (134-139-118.5) -15.5
Illinois (105.5-85.5-78.5) -27.0
Ohio State (91-109-86.5) -4.5
Northwestern (75-56-58) -17.0
**(Iowa is the only team to improve from the top half of the 2012 team finishers)
Michigan (66-75-71.5) +5.5
Nebraska (65-61-79) +14.0
Purdue (51.5-38-34.5) -17.0
Indiana (41-30.5-37) -4.0
Michigan State (41-22-21.5) -19.5
Wisconsin (9-37-73) +64.0
**Sure 2012 was bad for the Badgers but NO other team improved more than 14 points over 2 years ago.
Think about that, though. 9.
Numbers, are you also satisfied with performances that range from Poor to mediocre. It sounds like you are
Perhaps verb tense could help us here Brett (do they teach verbs in Mississippi?) Is anyone satisfied with the improvement as in "it's ok if we stay here for the next 5 years." I doubt it. Is it very encouraging to see the dramatic rate at which this team is improving? I would hope even a three-time retiree would say yes.
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 10:24:14 PM
Numbers, are you also satisfied with performances that range from Poor to mediocre. It sounds like you are
I don't think anyone is satisfied with being average in the Big Ten, but having 2 qualifiers in 2012, 3 in 2013, and now 7 or more in 2014 is solid improvement. And average in the Big Ten is Top 20 in the Nation. And in 2 weeks, I think we will make some serious noise at the NCAA's. 4 Badgers Wrestlers should be seeded in the top 8 at their weights !!
Adding Mitch Hull, developing a Regional Training Site in Madison, having the World Team Trials in Madison this, adding quality recruiting depth,
bringing back the Badgers camps - quite a few good things are being started/are ongoing/will occur in the future.
As I was watching the finals today I commented to the friends I was with about the improvements they have made and being a young team that its going the right direction. My next comment was, "but watch today some knucklehead will got on the forum and complain".... And what do you know there's #4 with his blinders on. Seriously man take off the blind fold and really look at the improvements. Oh and turn the page on "Donny" already. That's been old news for how long. If you like him that much move to MI and stroke his ego there.
Great job by the Badger wrestlers and coaching staff today.
Quote from: Harris on March 09, 2014, 11:43:12 PM
Great job by the Badger wrestlers and coaching staff today.
+1
I'm glad all you guys are happy with placing 7th out of 12 teams. I guess it doesn't take a lot to satisfy you. 7 qualifiers is great and I wish them the best of luck. :)
Quote from: Harris on March 09, 2014, 11:43:12 PM
Great job by the Badger wrestlers and coaching staff today.
Two thumbs up for all of Madison! Heard from family who attended that everything was awesome.
Sitting at home Sunday I watched a few other conference wrestling championships. The Big 12s attendance was
supposedly 2000 people (looked like a few hundred) while the B10's had over 10k with hardly an empty seat in the Kohl!
Plain and simple the B10's for wrestling is light years ahead of every other conference.
Hope everyone makes it to C-bus next season! 8)
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 10, 2014, 12:21:27 AM
I'm glad all you guys are happy with placing 7th out of 12 teams. I guess it doesn't take a lot to satisfy you. 7 qualifiers is great and I wish them the best of luck. :)
Instead of looking at is as 7th out of 12 teams consider the national team rankings. If Wisconsin was in any other conference they would have won......but who cares, right?
I am happy for the badgers that qualified for the national tournament. Good luck and great job getting to the big show!
With that said, I have to agree with Favre here.
Thank goodness the Iowa, Minn, PSU wrestlers have done fantastic at Nationals in the past so that the Big Ten sends so many wrestlers from each wt. class or there would be a lot fewer badger wrestlers going.
The underclassmen wrestled well. My prediction is that they will mature into wrestlers wrestling not to lose just like all of the Badger wrestlers seem to do.
If every Badger wrestler had wrestled the entire match like they did the last ten seconds of every match they lost, maybe I would be on unions side of this debate. I would rather see them go out and be aggressive and lose spectacularly than lose by one or two points because they didn't do anything for 6 and a half minutes.
Iowa wrestlers are always looking to score. Always putting the pressure on, always getting after their opponent.
PSU wrestlers, well...what more needs to be said. They are light years ahead of Wisconsin.
I guess I want more. I guess one Big Ten title in anyone's lifetime is too much to ask because, well...there is Iowa and Penn State and Minnesota and... :'(
Jeast you must be kidding, right?
"Iowa wrestlers are always looking to score. Always putting the pressure on, always getting after their opponent."
Were you at the same tournament that I was at yesterday? Yes, Iowa puts a lot of pressure on their opponents and are great at hand fighting, pulling down/putting pressure on the head and they have great cardio, but DO NOT say they are always looking to score. I would say out of the 10 wrestlers Iowa Clark was the only wrestler that actually took a shot in any of his matches. Ramos, St. John, Moore, Evans, hardly, if ever, took a shot in their matches! And if it was a shot, it was a counter shot off the other wrestler generating offense.
Iowa's dominance and reputation precede themselves and it is well deserved, but there is a reason Penn St. is the NEW Iowa and won the last 4 Big Ten tourneys. They are the team that actually works on offensive moves and looks to score, NOT Iowa.
The Iowa style, IMO, is boring and predictable. Yes, they get results, but they wrestler conservative and do just enough to win the match by a point or two at the end. However, when they get to the finals of the Big Tens they usually lose to a guy who is the better offensive wrestler.
If you need anymore proof of this then watch Joe Colon in 2 weeks for N. Iowa beat Ramos b/c of his Offensive style. Iowa won't have any NCAA champions, whereas Penn St. could have 3-4. Taylor, Ruth, Megaludis, McIntosh.
Quote from: woody53 on March 09, 2014, 05:10:15 PM
And yes, the UW, The Kohl Center, and all the Wisconsin Wrestling Volunteers, put on a fantastic show.
The announcers could not have raved more about Madison. NCAA? Was sad to hear it will probably be 14 years before it comes back for the big tens.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Quote from: brave112 on March 10, 2014, 07:51:42 AM
Jeast you must be kidding, right?
"Iowa wrestlers are always looking to score. Always putting the pressure on, always getting after their opponent."
Were you at the same tournament that I was at yesterday? Yes, Iowa puts a lot of pressure on their opponents and are great at hand fighting, pulling down/putting pressure on the head and they have great cardio, but DO NOT say they are always looking to score. I would say out of the 10 wrestlers Iowa Clark was the only wrestler that actually took a shot in any of his matches. Ramos, St. John, Moore, Evans, hardly, if ever, took a shot in their matches! And if it was a shot, it was a counter shot off the other wrestler generating offense.
Iowa's dominance and reputation precede themselves and it is well deserved, but there is a reason Penn St. is the NEW Iowa and won the last 4 Big Ten tourneys. They are the team that actually works on offensive moves and looks to score, NOT Iowa.
The Iowa style, IMO, is boring and predictable. Yes, they get results, but they wrestler conservative and do just enough to win the match by a point or two at the end. However, when they get to the finals of the Big Tens they usually lose to a guy who is the better offensive wrestler.
If you need anymore proof of this then watch Joe Colon in 2 weeks for N. Iowa beat Ramos b/c of his Offensive style. Iowa won't have any NCAA champions, whereas Penn St. could have 3-4. Taylor, Ruth, Megaludis, McIntosh.
When do we find out if Thielke gets a wild card or not? He definitely deserves one.
Whenever they release the brackets - I believe it is Wednesday?
Quote from: futurerichguy on March 10, 2014, 08:21:09 AM
I was watching the McIntosh vs. Hefflin final and someone kept yelling "You're the reason our sport is boring!". Does anybody know who that was? I couldn't tell if it was Cael Sanderson or not, but I think they were yelling at Hefflin.
I am pretty sure it was Cael and I thought he was yelling at the official, for no stalling calls
Quote from: futurerichguy on March 10, 2014, 08:21:09 AM
I was watching the McIntosh vs. Hefflin final and someone kept yelling "You're the reason our sport is boring!". Does anybody know who that was? I couldn't tell if it was Cael Sanderson or not, but I think they were yelling at Hefflin.
That was coach Sanderson. He was directing that remark at the refs for allowing the wrestlers (both IMO) to stall most of their championship match.
There are a couple different schools of thought on the 'non-action' rules in college wrestling. The hwt. final was an even better example of 'non-action'.
Awesome tournament! Badgers looked great and are definitely improving. Good Luck at nationals!
More than once I heard people say "the badgers need to wrestle with some urgency". This was noted the most when they were on bottom. If you need one point to tie the match, it won't happen if you lay on the mat with your head down or continue to crawl out of bound or not once attempt to stand and peel hands.It was by far the most obvious flaw in the badgers wrestling and something that the top 3 teams did far better, throw IL into that as well.
In addition, while mat returns by the team were great overall, how about preventing a stand up in the first place? Not every mat return worked.
Knowing the riding time situation and/or time clock situation could have easily won us a few more matches. Is that on the coaches? we lost or failed to gain points there within a +/- 5 second margin of being able to. If your opponent needs :18 to gain riding time advantage, and you don't attempt any type of movement from bottom until 25 ticks of the clock occur, well, you will lose that point every time.
I believe everyone I spoke with is excited with the potential that this team has now and in the future years but the majority thought the badgers were showing they were content to stay on the bottom and not score. Scott Leigel was a notable exception as he was on his feet within seconds on most of his starts, and more often than not earned or was given an escape.
Hopefully this can be a coaching point and something they work on over the next two weeks. If so, and it takes, then yes, we have something to be very excited about.
And Sanderson was right. The refs aren't doing their job. It's typical of college and pro basketball where traveling and carrying the ball aren't called. These guys are supposed to be the best, they should know the rules the best, make the calls.
One way to make it less boring would be to eliminate riding time.
Why do we reward someone for NOT SCORING?
If you like riding time, why don't the wrestlers get a point for NOT getting a takedown?
The reward for "riding" should be near fall points or pin points.
I would like to go to the scoring of the late 70s and early 80s.
decision 1-7 (3 team points)
major decision 8-10 (4 team points)
superior decision 11-14 (5 team points)
tech fall 15 match termination (6 team points)
fall (6 team points)
matches were 8 minutes, 2-3-3
Wear your opponent down, lots of take 'em down let 'em up in the third, trying to earn team points.
I am not sure if all my point differentials are correct. If someone else remembers better than I, correct me please.
Lots more action and reward for scoring. Lots of takedowns, more exciting. I think more falls come from takedowns than riding anyway.
My case for JT to get a bid
7-2 in last 9 matches
the two loses where both matches that where up in the air in the 3rd period... one was against a wrestler that was 28-0 and the other to a wrestler that was 23-7
Had an 18-6 decision over a 22-11 wrestler in last match
is 20-13 with all loses coming against wrestlers ranked during the season.
how do you not let him in?
I saw Sabatello's RPI was 19 and JT was 31. JT stomped him pretty good yesterday.
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
My case for JT to get a bid
7-2 in last 9 matches
the two loses where both matches that where up in the air in the 3rd period... one was against a wrestler that was 28-0 and the other to a wrestler that was 23-7
Had an 18-6 decision over a 22-11 wrestler in last match
is 20-13 with all loses coming against wrestlers ranked during the season.
how do you not let him in?
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 10, 2014, 12:21:27 AM
I'm glad all you guys are happy with placing 7th out of 12 teams. I guess it doesn't take a lot to satisfy you. 7 qualifiers is great and I wish them the best of luck. :)
what place did they take in the dual season?
how did they do compared to last year when they finished 10th?
Anybody thinking rational can see that an increase from 3 to 7 or 8 national qualifiers is a huge improvement.
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 10, 2014, 12:21:27 AM
I'm glad all you guys are happy with placing 7th out of 12 teams. I guess it doesn't take a lot to satisfy you. 7 qualifiers is great and I wish them the best of luck. :)
what place did they take in the dual season?
how did they do compared to last year when they finished 10th?
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
#4 here. So UW is sending 7 to the NCAA's. Is that an improvement over last year, yes but they still finished 7th in the big 10. That's like saying its acceptable for the Packers to take 3rd in the division because they sent 8 guys to the pro bowl.
The fact is that UW placed 4th at the big 10"s in 2011, Pritzlafs last year here and they have been in the bottom half ever since
What place did Pritzlaf's team place at the tournament yesterday??
How did Pritzlaf's team do in a head to head dual against the Badgers last year?
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 09, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 10:24:14 PM
Numbers, are you also satisfied with performances that range from Poor to mediocre. It sounds like you are
I don't think anyone is satisfied with being average in the Big Ten, but having 2 qualifiers in 2012, 3 in 2013, and now 7 or more in 2014 is solid improvement. And average in the Big Ten is Top 20 in the Nation. And in 2 weeks, I think we will make some serious noise at the NCAA's. 4 Badgers Wrestlers should be seeded in the top 8 at their weights !!
Adding Mitch Hull, developing a Regional Training Site in Madison, having the World Team Trials in Madison this, adding quality recruiting depth,
bringing back the Badgers camps - quite a few good things are being started/are ongoing/will occur in the future.
+1
I thought the team wrestled pretty good this weekend. We were a point away from several wins. Timmy improved a bunch. Graff would like a few seconds back in his finals. Lubeck! Huge! Jesse is very close and improving on the mat but has a long ways to go. I know he will continue to improve. Zeke looked good but I wonder if he is a little banged up. Ryan had a good tourney and it will be good to see where he ends up at NCAA and for next year. Connor needs to improve and find that mentality of last year that he knew he could beat anyone. Thanks Jackson for what you did for the Badgers. He was really banged up this year. Need to find at 65 pounder for next year.
Looking forward to the NCAA's
Go badgers!
Quote from: dad 2 5 on March 10, 2014, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 09, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Brett Favre on March 09, 2014, 10:24:14 PM
Numbers, are you also satisfied with performances that range from Poor to mediocre. It sounds like you are
I don't think anyone is satisfied with being average in the Big Ten, but having 2 qualifiers in 2012, 3 in 2013, and now 7 or more in 2014 is solid improvement. And average in the Big Ten is Top 20 in the Nation. And in 2 weeks, I think we will make some serious noise at the NCAA's. 4 Badgers Wrestlers should be seeded in the top 8 at their weights !!
Adding Mitch Hull, developing a Regional Training Site in Madison, having the World Team Trials in Madison this, adding quality recruiting depth,
bringing back the Badgers camps - quite a few good things are being started/are ongoing/will occur in the future.
+1
I thought the team wrestled pretty good this weekend. We were a point away from several wins. Timmy improved a bunch. Graff would like a few seconds back in his finals. Lubeck! Huge! Jesse is very close and improving on the mat but has a long ways to go. I know he will continue to improve. Zeke looked good but I wonder if he is a little banged up. Ryan had a good tourney and it will be good to see where he ends up at NCAA and for next year. Connor needs to improve and find that mentality of last year that he knew he could beat anyone. Thanks Jackson for what you did for the Badgers. He was really banged up this year. Need to find at 65 pounder for next year.
Looking forward to the NCAA's
Go badgers!
Agree with dad 2 5. I thought the Badgers competed extreamly well this weekend. The young core of wrestlers is impressive.
Yes, How can some still be lamenting the bailing of old staff? You beat them head to head in a dual and finished ahead of them in the Big 10 Tournament. Do you really want to trade places?
I was pretty happy with the way the Badgers wrestled this weekend also. What will next year's lineup look like? Obviously the NCAAs has to happen this year yet, but with so much young talent on the roster it's tough not to be excited about the years to come.
125--Taylor
133--Can Thielke drop? People in my section were commenting a lot that he might be a bit undersized to wrestle at 141.
141--Crone? Or would the strongest team come from keeping Thielke here and maybe putting Jimenez at 133?
149--Lubeck
157--Jordan
165--Cox
174--?
184--?
197--Robertson? Or does McCall keep the spot?
HWT--Medberry
125 - Taylor
133 - Thielke
141 - Crone
149 - Lubeck
157 - Jordan (If Jordan decides to move up to 65 then Ruschell)
165 - Liegel
174 - Cousins/Cox/Stilling/Iczkowski
184 - Robertson
197 - McCall
Hwt - Medberry
This is assuming Liegel can beat out our current guys at 165. This also assumes Jordan stays at 157. I believe Kelliher still goes to school at UW, anyone know if he has any interest in coming back, or is he done for good? He would be an option at 41 as well if he decided to come back.
Word on the street is that Thielke is staying at 141. Wonder if Jiminez is going to redshirt? If not he could go 25 and Taylor 33.
Usually don't like discussing these things until after NCAAs, but all I've heard is that he will be 133 next year. This would make sense given the new Greco weight as well.
There should be a lot of good competition in the room. Go we are bringing in a couple of light guys to keep pushing things.
Go Badgers at NCAA!
I think it's silly for some posters to make the claim that this Badger squad is mediocre and will continue to be mediocre.
In the meatgrinder that is known as the Big Ten wrestling conference, these Badgers more than held their own.
While losing Graff is a big loss, bringing in young new talent like Ricky Robertson, Seth Liegel and Andrew Crone makes me believe the Badgers are on the verge of climbing into the top 3rd of the conference.
NOTE* By top 3rd, I mean top 4 or 5 in the Conference. That is definitely something to be excited about.
Quote from: Brems on March 09, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
What an AWESOME weekend of wrestling....
Shout-outs go to:
All the staff and volunteers that made for a silky-smooth tourney. Several of us commented on this.
Justin Tritz- In our booth, we all agreed he and his staff have improved wrestling tournaments across the country.... start writing down what we now take for granted related to running a tournament and as a fan following compared to 10-15 years ago. Isn't is a bit crazy that soon much of the wrestling population will just think that "is just how it has always been"- dating myself here:)
Officials- thought they did very well.
Badger Wresters- I'm proud for them. Thought they wrestled very well. Best wishes to all of them in less than two weeks.
David Taylor- first 4-time undefeated wrestling in Big Ten competition history? I feel lucky to be able to watch such a talent. Hope he hits the weights (more) and represents USA at 185 (or whatever it is). I can dream, right?
Hawkeye fans- Don't always agree with them, but they know how to make noise and support their wrestlers. I thought we did well too, but have some work to do to reach their level:)
All in all, I am deeply humbled by the greatness (and the incredible work that it takes) of the young men I watched this weekend. Bravo. Thank you. Best wishes as you all strive for your goals at the NCAA's.
Very nice. Thank you.
The lower weights (125-157) scored 53 team points. The Upper weights (165-Hwt) scored 20 points.
Having two stud freshman (Taylor and Jordan) give the program great hope for the future.
Lubeck, Thielke, Medbery, Robertson and Seth Liegel appear to all be likely key starters next season.
125 Taylor 12.5
133 Graff 15
141 Thielke 5.5
149 Lubeck 7.5
157 Jordan 12.5
165 Cox 0
174 Liegel 7
184 Hein 0
197 McCall 5.5
Hwt Medbery 5.5
Quote from: stbird on March 10, 2014, 02:30:55 PM
Word on the street is that Thielke is staying at 141. Wonder if Jiminez is going to redshirt? If not he could go 25 and Taylor 33.
If Thielke's goal is to win a national championship in folkstyle and also be able to make 130 in Greco, IMO he will be at 133 next year. He was clearly undersized against top ranked opponents at 141. He said he lost muscle last summer making the cut for Greco. I know the weigh ins are different for Greco, but I think it will be difficult for him to make 130 for Greco and be strong enough to wrestle 141 in folkstyle to the standards he wants.
I still think he has the potential to be an elite wrestler at his ideal weight. Can he gain another 5-10 pounds of muscle to be more of a true 41 and still make 130 for Greco? I think that would be difficult.
IMHO Theilke could AA at 133 next year, not happening at 141 unless he is still growing......