He is terrible, can't get anyones name right. Where did they find this guy???
Ben you are the best at everything according to you (you argued you are successful at everything you do) why don't you do it?
Ha ha ha well I am a busy man. so I dont know if it is possible, but I am certain I could do way better :)
"Winner on mat 6 from Sun Prairie,
Sofa Slaknawja."
He was so close to nailing it......her actual name......Bopa Quintana.
Quote from: benaskren on February 24, 2023, 10:17:54 PMHa ha ha well I am a busy man. so I dont know if it is possible, but I am certain I could do way better :)
In all fairness I agree he isn't doing a good job n but I can't say anything because I'm not willing to take on the role
Quote from: benaskren on February 24, 2023, 09:59:45 PMHe is terrible, can't get anyones name right. Where did they find this guy???
JERK
I miss the overtime on mat 6 or whatever mat overtime is on alerts. Ben is right. They have to upgrade. I'm sure its a nice guy but this is the state tournament.
Good voice, poor execution. But I can't imagine its an easy job for anyone. Lots of names there is no chance I can pronounce. The Overtime on X mat missing is a huge gaff. Also, the mat assignments on the jumbotron for who is on deck and in the hole is a huge miss this year too.
Last night during the semi's, the announcer(s) were calling results of matches before they even wrestled. An example I recall was he called Empey (HWT) as a winner when he was still on deck. The only explanation I can think of was the announcer was calling the quarterfinals result. I don't remember the score he said, and I wasn't there Thursday. Did anyone else catch this? Was he announcing the quarterfinal results or was he just that far off?
I believe it is the responsibility of the coaches to get proper pronunciation to the announcers. Don't throw stones...
I'm not there this year - but am streaming ... and the announcer sounds like the same guy who's been doing it for years.
Also - Shane Sparks commented that it seems like things are moving much faster than in the past ... and he's having some difficulties as well - so maybe that's making it more difficult for the in-house announcer as well.
Chill out, Ben.
Pretty cheap criticism in my opinion. If it's the same guy who has done it in the past then maybe something in the procedure or equipment or whatever has changed, as I thought he was excellent. If he is a new guy then those are darn big shoes to fill - so give him a couple of years. All that being said, I'd prefer to be there hearing him for myself than in my kitchen typing about it.... Enjoy the ride, it's a great atmosphere and a great day!!
Awful and shouldn't be doing the announcing. Not cheap criticism, but 100% fair criticism. This is the biggest tourney of the year, find someone who can do the job.
Aren't there usually 2 announcers? One for announcing who's coming up and one for announcing results?
Also, with 8 mats this year, I'm sure it's just a bit more busy at the announcers table. Not an excuse to get the names wrong, however. The announcer should be looking over all the names and any that he isn't sure on, he should at least be calling up the coach to ask. That's what happened to us in the past.
Quote from: SayHey42 on February 25, 2023, 12:36:46 PMAwful and shouldn't be doing the announcing. Not cheap criticism, but 100% fair criticism. This is the biggest tourney of the year, find someone who can do the job.
Exactly how do you know in advance who can do it without any errors, be they electronic, pronunciation, errors by the mat scorers?
It was announced that head coaches report any pronunciation of difficult names prior to the start of the tournament. I didn't see a flood of coaches going to the announcement table.
Pronunciation is wrong at State events in every sport.
My suggestion is that the person who started the thread and anyone else who says a new person should do it needs to step up and do the job as well as they say it needs to be done.
Hire the guy who's been announcing Bayport's "battle of the bay" for a long time
Does incredible job
He's bad
'bad' as in 'good'?
QuoteSometimes it feels as though lots of you forum patrons just want something to whine about. I mean all of the largest threads are always whining about something(forfiets, switching weight classes, loaded regionals, etc). So yes I stand by more original statement that some of you should cry more.
Yeah, sure does feel that way sometimes. People just want something to whine about.
Quote from: Vir Fortis on February 26, 2023, 07:45:24 PMQuoteSometimes it feels as though lots of you forum patrons just want something to whine about. I mean all of the largest threads are always whining about something(forfiets, switching weight classes, loaded regionals, etc). So yes I stand by more original statement that some of you should cry more.
Yeah, sure does feel that way sometimes. People just want something to whine about.
Or discuss...on a discussion forum...
Quote from: npope on February 26, 2023, 07:54:09 PMQuote from: Vir Fortis on February 26, 2023, 07:45:24 PMQuoteSometimes it feels as though lots of you forum patrons just want something to whine about. I mean all of the largest threads are always whining about something(forfiets, switching weight classes, loaded regionals, etc). So yes I stand by more original statement that some of you should cry more.
Yeah, sure does feel that way sometimes. People just want something to whine about.
Or discuss...on a discussion forum...
Now that's another perspective. If you're going to take a position on voicing your displeasure about a certain issue, just be consistent. If it's somehow tangentially related to you it's "cry more," and how people are just searching about things to whine about.
Just observing a little hypocrisy, that's all.
Hypocrisy? That was my first post on this thread.
Personally, I think Askren has a right to his own opinions and his contributions to the forum keep things interesting. Now, if you are ascribing what I said to someone else's posts, then that's your business, but they didn't write my post - I did.
Personally, I think this place would be pretty dead if everyone agreed - I like some posts to stir things up. That said, I do think some folks are "lost in the woods," but that's okay...keeps me coming back.
Quote from: npope on February 26, 2023, 08:39:53 PMHypocrisy? That was my first post on this thread.
Personally, I think Askren has a right to his own opinions and his contributions to the forum keep things interesting. Now, if you are ascribing what I said to someone else's posts, then that's your business, but they didn't write my post - I did.
Personally, I think this place would be pretty dead if everyone agreed - I like some posts to stir things up. That said, I do think some folks are "lost in the woods," but that's okay...keeps me coming back.
He wasn't referring to you
So you're saying he announces like you box?
Quote from: Ghetto on February 26, 2023, 09:22:32 PMQuote from: npope on February 26, 2023, 08:39:53 PMHypocrisy? That was my first post on this thread.
Personally, I think Askren has a right to his own opinions and his contributions to the forum keep things interesting. Now, if you are ascribing what I said to someone else's posts, then that's your business, but they didn't write my post - I did.
Personally, I think this place would be pretty dead if everyone agreed - I like some posts to stir things up. That said, I do think some folks are "lost in the woods," but that's okay...keeps me coming back.
He wasn't referring to you
Correct. My apologies if that wasn't clear. That was a quote from another thread. The "rumors" thread about Wrestler's going different weights. I was not calling npope a hypocrite.
LOL... Couldn't pronounce Bianchi or other very common state names correctly, but nailed Alois Schlumpf everytime! They should print him a "name sounds like" bracket to work off of...
He was struggling-" winner on mat 2- Wyatt Duchamabateau" :) and then he said-" correction, winner on Mat 2- Wayne Duchateau" :) Got it wrong both times. I announce football games, and some are not easy. As coaches we usually go tell them, but they have to remember also. Not an easy gig but has a great voice for it.
Quote from: Coach V on February 27, 2023, 11:03:28 AMHe was struggling-" winner on mat 2- Wyatt Duchamabateau" :) and then he said-" correction, winner on Mat 2- Wayne Duchateau" :) Got it wrong both times. I announce football games, and some are not easy. As coaches we usually go tell them, but they have to remember also. Not an easy gig but has a great voice for it.
Not everyone is like the couple that did the D1s, Fargo and every large tournament for years. They were impeccable. Nailed just about every name, did a great job alerting you to big matches. They were like the Michael Buffer of announcing Wrestling results. Always perfect.
The women still does it, but I think the guy she used to do it with is no longer involved. I thought he may have passed, but I shouldn't throw that out there without being positive.
Everyone knows their voices, but I don't recall the names.
Quote from: Vir Fortis on February 27, 2023, 11:10:42 AMQuote from: Coach V on February 27, 2023, 11:03:28 AMHe was struggling-" winner on mat 2- Wyatt Duchamabateau" :) and then he said-" correction, winner on Mat 2- Wayne Duchateau" :) Got it wrong both times. I announce football games, and some are not easy. As coaches we usually go tell them, but they have to remember also. Not an easy gig but has a great voice for it.
Not everyone is like the couple that did the D1s, Fargo and every large tournament for years. They were impeccable. Nailed just about every name, did a great job alerting you to big matches. They were like the Michael Buffer of announcing Wrestling results. Always perfect.
The women still does it, but I think the guy she used to do it with is no longer involved. I thought he may have passed, but I shouldn't throw that out there without being positive.
Everyone knows their voices, but I don't recall the names.
She was/is aweseome! I think her name is Sandy??
Quote from: dman on February 27, 2023, 01:28:11 PMQuote from: Vir Fortis on February 27, 2023, 11:10:42 AMQuote from: Coach V on February 27, 2023, 11:03:28 AMHe was struggling-" winner on mat 2- Wyatt Duchamabateau" :) and then he said-" correction, winner on Mat 2- Wayne Duchateau" :) Got it wrong both times. I announce football games, and some are not easy. As coaches we usually go tell them, but they have to remember also. Not an easy gig but has a great voice for it.
Not everyone is like the couple that did the D1s, Fargo and every large tournament for years. They were impeccable. Nailed just about every name, did a great job alerting you to big matches. They were like the Michael Buffer of announcing Wrestling results. Always perfect.
The women still does it, but I think the guy she used to do it with is no longer involved. I thought he may have passed, but I shouldn't throw that out there without being positive.
Everyone knows their voices, but I don't recall the names.
She was/is aweseome! I think her name is Sandy??
Yes, that's it. Sandy Stevens. Ed Aliverti was the guy who used to do it with her. He did pass away back in 2010.
They both great and ran the tournaments seamlessly. Her voice really stood out though. I don't think she does the D1s anymore, does she? I'm trying to go back, I think I've heard here doing other tournaments, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: Vir Fortis on February 27, 2023, 08:21:38 PMQuote from: dman on February 27, 2023, 01:28:11 PMQuote from: Vir Fortis on February 27, 2023, 11:10:42 AMQuote from: Coach V on February 27, 2023, 11:03:28 AMHe was struggling-" winner on mat 2- Wyatt Duchamabateau" :) and then he said-" correction, winner on Mat 2- Wayne Duchateau" :) Got it wrong both times. I announce football games, and some are not easy. As coaches we usually go tell them, but they have to remember also. Not an easy gig but has a great voice for it.
Not everyone is like the couple that did the D1s, Fargo and every large tournament for years. They were impeccable. Nailed just about every name, did a great job alerting you to big matches. They were like the Michael Buffer of announcing Wrestling results. Always perfect.
The women still does it, but I think the guy she used to do it with is no longer involved. I thought he may have passed, but I shouldn't throw that out there without being positive.
Everyone knows their voices, but I don't recall the names.
She was/is aweseome! I think her name is Sandy??
Yes, that's it. Sandy Stevens. Ed Aliverti was the guy who used to do it with her. He did pass away back in 2010.
They both great and ran the tournaments seamlessly. Her voice really stood out though. I don't think she does the D1s anymore, does she? I'm trying to go back, I think I've heard here doing other tournaments, but I could be wrong.
Yes...that is it. Thanks! I am not sure what tournaments she is doing now but have heard here multiple times at Fargo and World Team Trials. I loved it when she would get testy with people too...like "Sit down next to the mat!!" etc. LOL
I believe most people put forth their best effort. That said there's always positive ways to make improvements.
For Example:
1) Jim Quicker a retired 40-year English instructor from Lakeshore Technical College (Cleveland, WI) said he never mispronounced anyone's name wrong at graduation. I was watching and the names he thought he might struggle to pronounced he asked the student before announcing their names.
2) In the 80s I took my nephews' to wrestling tournaments and looking at a wall chart I noticed the last name spelling was wrong. I said, Joel they spelled your last name wrong. He said, "no I'm using phonetic spelling."
Tournaments are tough . . . I never took mispronunciations of my last name personal. . .I just laughed.
Now dual meets are different. . .my suggestion is find a kid from the opposing school to sit next to your announcer and ask for correct pronunciation of names.
There was a call out to coaches of athletes with difficult to pronounce names at least 2 times.
I was sitting 3 rows directly behind the head table, pretty sure it was a pair of announcers that sounded almost identical, and they were pulling the matche results off of track. At times they were announcing matches from the previous day for sure, which was super confusing.
I don't know what it sounded like in other places in the arena, but for me the worst thing was the audio quality of the music the DJ was playing. Was over driving the bass BAD. I'm sure it sounded great to him with his headphones on, but it sounded awful at least from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just the acoustics of the building specific to where I sat and it sounded fine elsewhere. Then the music would cut in while an announcer was speaking, making it hard to hear and a couple times visibly shaking the composure of the announcer. Perhaps he was remotely controlling the music, or there was some automation that was supposed to control when the music kicked in and out that wasn't working as it should have been.
Quote from: ChargerDad on March 03, 2023, 10:59:14 AMThere was a call out to coaches of athletes with difficult to pronounce names at least 2 times.
I was sitting 3 rows directly behind the head table, pretty sure it was a pair of announcers that sounded almost identical, and they were pulling the matche results off of track. At times they were announcing matches from the previous day for sure, which was super confusing.
I don't know what it sounded like in other places in the arena, but for me the worst thing was the audio quality of the music the DJ was playing. Was over driving the bass BAD. I'm sure it sounded great to him with his headphones on, but it sounded awful at least from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just the acoustics of the building specific to where I sat and it sounded fine elsewhere. Then the music would cut in while an announcer was speaking, making it hard to hear and a couple times visibly shaking the composure of the announcer. Perhaps he was remotely controlling the music, or there was some automation that was supposed to control when the music kicked in and out that wasn't working as it should have been.
The DJ was worse than the announcing. He was sitting in front of a table in front of D2 mats, bobbing his head as if he was Marshmallow rocking the crowd. His favorite thing was hitting the techno air horn thing in whenever he could. I didn't think it was possible to ruin eye of the tiger, but he managed to do so. Not to mention the 20 seconds of pure bass as the 106's started their matches.
I run game day audio on Friday nights at Menasha. Rizzo does the announcing. Before each game we get who are your play makers as well as pronunciation of players. I'd put us up with anyone in the state. Touchdown Bluejays! as Chelsea Dagger rocks Calder Stadium. Put me in, coach.
And of all the names the announcer butchered, how does he not know how to pronounce Whiting?
Quote from: SayHey42 on March 03, 2023, 09:34:36 PMQuote from: ChargerDad on March 03, 2023, 10:59:14 AMThere was a call out to coaches of athletes with difficult to pronounce names at least 2 times.
I was sitting 3 rows directly behind the head table, pretty sure it was a pair of announcers that sounded almost identical, and they were pulling the matche results off of track. At times they were announcing matches from the previous day for sure, which was super confusing.
I don't know what it sounded like in other places in the arena, but for me the worst thing was the audio quality of the music the DJ was playing. Was over driving the bass BAD. I'm sure it sounded great to him with his headphones on, but it sounded awful at least from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just the acoustics of the building specific to where I sat and it sounded fine elsewhere. Then the music would cut in while an announcer was speaking, making it hard to hear and a couple times visibly shaking the composure of the announcer. Perhaps he was remotely controlling the music, or there was some automation that was supposed to control when the music kicked in and out that wasn't working as it should have been.
The DJ was worse than the announcing. He was sitting in front of a table in front of D2 mats, bobbing his head as if he was Marshmallow rocking the crowd. His favorite thing was hitting the techno air horn thing in whenever he could. I didn't think it was possible to ruin eye of the tiger, but he managed to do so. Not to mention the 20 seconds of pure bass as the 106's started their matches.
I run game day audio on Friday nights at Menasha. Rizzo does the announcing. Before each game we get who are your play makers as well as pronunciation of players. I'd put us up with anyone in the state. Touchdown Bluejays! as Chelsea Dagger rocks Calder Stadium. Put me in, coach.
And of all the names the announcer butchered, how does he not know how to pronounce Whiting?
I don't know, I guess it could be "white-ing," or "whit-ing."
I assume it's "white-ing." Is that correct? I'm not even sure how Clayton Whiting's name was pronounced now that I've said it a few times...but I'm pretty sure it was "white-ing."
Quote from: SayHey42 on March 03, 2023, 09:34:36 PMQuote from: ChargerDad on March 03, 2023, 10:59:14 AMThere was a call out to coaches of athletes with difficult to pronounce names at least 2 times.
I was sitting 3 rows directly behind the head table, pretty sure it was a pair of announcers that sounded almost identical, and they were pulling the matche results off of track. At times they were announcing matches from the previous day for sure, which was super confusing.
I don't know what it sounded like in other places in the arena, but for me the worst thing was the audio quality of the music the DJ was playing. Was over driving the bass BAD. I'm sure it sounded great to him with his headphones on, but it sounded awful at least from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just the acoustics of the building specific to where I sat and it sounded fine elsewhere. Then the music would cut in while an announcer was speaking, making it hard to hear and a couple times visibly shaking the composure of the announcer. Perhaps he was remotely controlling the music, or there was some automation that was supposed to control when the music kicked in and out that wasn't working as it should have been.
The DJ was worse than the announcing. He was sitting in front of a table in front of D2 mats, bobbing his head as if he was Marshmallow rocking the crowd. His favorite thing was hitting the techno air horn thing in whenever he could. I didn't think it was possible to ruin eye of the tiger, but he managed to do so. Not to mention the 20 seconds of pure bass as the 106's started their matches.
I run game day audio on Friday nights at Menasha. Rizzo does the announcing. Before each game we get who are your play makers as well as pronunciation of players. I'd put us up with anyone in the state. Touchdown Bluejays! as Chelsea Dagger rocks Calder Stadium. Put me in, coach.
And of all the names the announcer butchered, how does he not know how to pronounce Whiting?
I completely disagree about the dj, I thought it was a great addition and would have liked even more. Especially later in the the round when some of the beginning juice was lost. Possibly a quick intermission with some wrestler interviews/back ground or stories on the big screen sandwiched with the dj playing some hype music. Would love to know some of the history as told by the individual wrestler. These could be recorded earlier in the day or something.
A few years back I believe a Sun Prairie wrestler told a story about losing his shoes or something and his mom had to get him new ones. I find that great, so much in these kids lives. Ask about other sports or what club they attend or if they even do.