Enough discussion about State Tournament format and Weight Classes already... ;D
Let's hear your Dark Horse predictions! Who's lying in the weeds ready to upset/disrupt the rankings at Regionals/Sectionals?
Quote from: DenBosch on February 05, 2016, 05:49:59 AM
Enough discussion about State Tournament format and Weight Classes already... ;D
Let's hear your Dark Horse predictions! Who's lying in the weeds ready to upset/disrupt the rankings at Regionals/Sectionals?
+100,000
Mauricio Cardoso- West Allis Central 138.
In my opinion, not a dark horse because he has some very good credentials but he is still unranked. He was one match from placing at the state tournament last year at 138, and I believe he only has 2 or 3 loses this season. I think he is going to do some damage here come tournament time.
Nate Roth- Jefferson 132
Pretty solid kid has not been ranked all year
Ryan McDevil - Hudson 152
Undefeated in 2016!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpSG-2pyBHI&feature=youtu.be
“Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game”
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
I'm liking a few guys from that lineup in Point. Roth has been wrestling well but his lingering injuries scare me. I really like Engle to wrestle deep at the tourney.
Quote from: superfan22 on February 05, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
Dark Horse
"a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds"Schlough is tough as nails but is ranked 3rd. Not sure he qualifies as a "Dark Horse"
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 05, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: superfan22 on February 05, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
Dark Horse
"a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds"
Schlough is tough as nails but is ranked 3rd. Not sure he qualifies as a "Dark Horse"
And he is just getting started in his high school career...He is a real ringer!!
Quote from: Super Q on February 05, 2016, 01:09:46 PM
I'm liking a few guys from that lineup in Point. Roth has been wrestling well but his lingering injuries scare me. I really like Engle to wrestle deep at the tourney.
Word on the street is Roth doesn't practice that much. Going to be tough to make a run if he isn't working on getting better.
Brandon Daniels Verona
Secretariat
Waldofski 160 lb. freshman from Barron
His weight class is stacked at Regionals and Sectionals, but he has the ability to make some big noise.
I'm going to go with the 103 lbr's from Pound Wis....do they have a team?...if so, he must be tough as nails, being so small and growing up in that Neck Of the wood! :)
Interesting Paul Harvey... :o
I like Jonny Benitez- Amery. Probably been practicing with Hunter Marko all year...heard he took some time off last year. But I think was a 2 time state entrant as a freshman and sophomore. Might be one of the quickest wrestlers I've seen from the feet.
Quote from: henry33 on February 05, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
I like Jonny Benitez- Amery. Probably been practicing with Hunter Marko all year...heard he took some time off last year. But I think was a 2 time state entrant as a freshman and sophomore. Might be one of the quickest wrestlers I've seen from the feet.
henry33... 2 time state entrant... dark horse?
Quote from: getyourpoints on February 05, 2016, 04:25:15 PM
Ian Laatsch 126, he has a couple of close losses to some top tear wrestlers and he only a freshman. But if he gets focused he has the athleticism to compete with anyone at 126.
I love watching this kid wrestle
Subhan Umar 145 from Racine Horlick. 39-0. Not ranked until 2/3 rankings
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 05, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: superfan22 on February 05, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
Dark Horse
"a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds"
Schlough is tough as nails but is ranked 3rd. Not sure he qualifies as a "Dark Horse"
I've been big on him since before Badger! Secondly, I'm not talking finish on podium dark horse. I'm talking in the current rankings I feel he is the guy to beat for D3.
Quote from: imnofish on February 05, 2016, 05:36:02 PM
Waldofski 160 lb. freshman from Barron
His weight class is stacked at Regionals and Sectionals, but he has the ability to make some big noise.
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For the die hards he isnt a dark horse, just a plain horse!!!!!!!!
Good choice fish, a name to remember for the next 3 1/2 years
I will take Sawyer Massie from Hudson.
While most think a guy that has made state a few times shouldnt be a dark horse but man this kid is the best kid that hasnt placed in high school yet.
sorry hudson coaches but being ranked 1 he isnt hiding.
Just a solid pick to win without ever placing that I know of!
I think hm at 195 Cullen Bauer-Trottier from Port Washington could do some damage. The kid knows how to keep matches close and win at the end. Plus he placed high at Cheesehead.
Quote from: TheChosenOne on February 06, 2016, 11:16:05 AM
I think hm at 195 Cullen Bauer-Trottier from Port Washington could do some damage. The kid knows how to keep matches close and win at the end. Plus he placed high at Cheesehead.
Agreed.
I've been out of state a couple years so haven't been able to watch live but keep up as much as possible. Trevor Troxel is ranked now but probably no where on the radar before the season. Had some tough injuries in previous years and having a great season! Pulling for him to make a deep run.
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 06, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
I've been out of state a couple years so haven't been able to watch live but keep up as much as possible. Trevor Troxel is ranked now but probably no where on the radar before the season. Had some tough injuries in previous years and having a great season! Pulling for him to make a deep run.
Didn't he play basketball last season? I know he made the state tournament his sophomore year, not sure about last year. I hope he makes a deep run in these next couple weeks.
Quote from: getyourpoints on February 05, 2016, 04:25:15 PM
Ian Laatsch 126, he has a couple of close losses to some top tear wrestlers and he only a freshman. But if he gets focused he has the athleticism to compete with anyone at 126.
Gave Trent Leon a run losing 6-4 today in finals after tech falling Jacob Barnett 22-7 in semis
Nathan Lichtfuss Hortonville 138.... Beat Zach Lee in conference final
I have to chuckle at these threads. I wonder if the kids being mentioned all like having a target painted on their backs. They may be comfortable living below the radar?
Then again, some may like the recognition.
Then maybe the thread should be "Who is wrestling really well right now?"
Ramjet- I'm not sure why you feel the title of the thread is so threatening.
When you have an answer for his first foolish comment he has to try to find something else to whine about. I didn't hear any names in his posts?
With all that empathy and compassion he shows you may believe he leans a little to the left.
I just think the term Dark Horse is nondescript it has the connotation the wrestler does not have chance. But somehow overcomes insurmountable odds to win against a superior talented opponent. Is this how you guys lol at those wrestlers? See I everyone has great chance to win if they work hard and believe in that hard work. Let's not try and make this political just like saying Rhinehart was a Darkhorse last year I bet he didn't think so nor did his coach. Just a weird way to post accomplishments of these wrestlers that's all.
Terms like "upset" and "Darkhorse" do not really tell the true story in my opinion. These are terms for parents and fans the wrestlers do not feel that way. Well at least the ones I talk too.
Flame away boys.........🔥
Quote from: ramjet on February 07, 2016, 10:52:12 AM
I have to chuckle at these threads. I wonder if the kids being mentioned all like having a target painted on their backs. They may be comfortable living below the radar?
Yes, I have to admit that I considered that, too. That's why I didn't make any bold predictions. Just wanted to give our young guy a little respect. He is a hard-working kid who respects his opponents and welcomes a challenge. He sets his goals high and knows that wrestling the top kids will help him get better in the long run. Good attitude for a freshman, IMO. Some kids might not like to be in the spotlight, though.
First of all, in no way does "dark horse" mean "not having a chance"(as you think it does). You are right in that it is not a term a participant would use to describe themselves, but it is perfectly appropriate to use it in this sense. As you said, it is for fans. Which is what 99% of this forum is.
Quote from: WBBs Bro on February 07, 2016, 02:31:02 PM
First of all, in no way does "dark horse" mean "not having a chance"(as you think it does). You are right in that it is not a term a participant would use to describe themselves, but it is perfectly appropriate to use it in this sense. As you said, it is for fans. Which is what 99% of this forum is.
I am not offended just strikes me like I said. No problem. I will say this all the wrestlers mentioned are working hard towards some nice accomplishments I wish them the best in thier quest.
Darkhorse simply means not the favorite.
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 05, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: superfan22 on February 05, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
Dark Horse
"a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds"
I posted this definition early on in this thread. It is about somebody who is not well known that we think has a shot at making some noise nothing more.
Ugh, Forum police at it again..... ::)
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 07, 2016, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 05, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: superfan22 on February 05, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
D3 Schlough Boyceville 138
Dark Horse
"a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds"
I posted this definition early on in this thread. It is about somebody who is not well known that we think has a shot at making some noise nothing more.
Ugh, Forum police at it again..... ::)
No it just how it strikes me that's all so calm down.
Thanks for sharing ram.
Aaaaaaawe! :-* Youse guys!
Keeping my Dark Horse to myself. That makes him really dark. ;D
I sincerely apologize for my previous comment not reflecting the amount of sarcasm intended.
Quote from: 5799gb on February 08, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
I sincerely apologize for my previous comment not reflecting the amount of sarcasm intended.
Same here....... ;D
This is the internet, so we are expected to get in a big fight over whether or not we intended to start a fight... or even whether we are actually fighting. To clarify, I think we are actually fighting about whether or not we are fighting. Of course, you may find this offensive and want to fight with me about that.
Ok, I'll pick Random Lake to win D3. Actually they don't have a chance but I wanna make sure I have a "true dark horse".
Boscobel 4 individual champs.
I want to say "HI" to whoever is "bulldog90"...it is close enough to my alias that now I can say things and maybe blame them on "bulldog90"...awesome
Quote from: bigG on February 08, 2016, 09:25:37 AM
Aaaaaaawe! :-* Youse guys!
Don't talk strange G....... :o :o
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 08, 2016, 02:47:50 PM
Ok, I'll pick Random Lake to win D3. Actually they don't have a chance but I wanna make sure I have a "true dark horse".
Boscobel 4 individual champs.
The boscobel boys are crazy tough. I find myself cheering for every team with a bulldog mascot just because of boscobel!
Stephen Buchanan (Neillsville-Greenwood-Loyal) 36-6, Fr.
Has not been in the rankings yet this year. Just won the Cloverbelt conference tourney. Imnofish, there could be some good matches over the next 4 years with him and William Waldofski.
Quote from: Houndhead on February 10, 2016, 07:54:52 AM
Stephen Buchanan (Neillsville-Greenwood-Loyal) 36-6, Fr.
Has not been in the rankings yet this year. Just won the Cloverbelt conference tourney. Imnofish, there could be some good matches over the next 4 years with him and William Waldofski.
Yes, Buchanan is tough!
I am amazed at the number of big, strong freshmen around these days!
Quote from: imnofish on February 08, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
This is the internet, so we are expected to get in a big fight over whether or not we intended to start a fight... or even whether we are actually fighting. To clarify, I think we are actually fighting about whether or not we are fighting. Of course, you may find this offensive and want to fight with me about that.
What are you sayin' here? Talkin' smack 'bout my momma?! Huh?!
I never asked for this!!!!
I'm going with my Cashton wrestlers as individual dark horses. Only one qualified for state last year. I'm hoping for more.
I'm thinking that freshman Aaron Bahr of West Salem/Bangor may come through the 120 lb field. I know he's been ranked, but a freshman at 120 has got to be a darkhorse, in light of a few losses on his record.
Quote from: Ghetto on February 08, 2016, 10:01:00 AM
Keeping my Dark Horse to myself. That makes him really dark. ;D
I like this idea.
Quote from: DarkKnight on February 11, 2016, 08:22:35 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on February 08, 2016, 10:01:00 AM
Keeping my Dark Horse to myself. That makes him really dark. ;D
I like this idea.
DarkKnight should have a DarkHorse for sure
My dark horse is in our conference. Super kid. Relatively obscure.
That's all I'm giving ya, Rock.
Quote from: bigG on February 11, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
Quote from: imnofish on February 08, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
This is the internet, so we are expected to get in a big fight over whether or not we intended to start a fight... or even whether we are actually fighting. To clarify, I think we are actually fighting about whether or not we are fighting. Of course, you may find this offensive and want to fight with me about that.
What are you sayin' here? Talkin' smack 'bout my momma?! Huh?!
I never asked for this!!!!
I'm going with my Cashton wrestlers as individual dark horses. Only one qualified for state last year. I'm hoping for more.
Your momma? Bring it on, homie! Yer fadder's mustache, I say! You asked for it by just being on here! ;)
Who U tah critsize my momma's mustache?!? Least hers is natural. Least my momma can't ride a bike with her legs crossed!!!!
We're actually pretty good around here. The foodie one I used to belong to had so many jerks; it became unbearable.
Quote from: bigG on February 11, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
Who U tah critsize my momma's mustache?!? Least hers is natural. Least my momma can't ride a bike with her legs crossed!!!!
We're actually pretty good around here. The foodie one I used to belong to had so many jerks; it became unbearable.
Chefs can be so temperamental sometimes. It's the artist in them. :D
It seemed to be more the guys who thought they knew tons more than they really did. Prove 'em wrong 50 times; and they still think they're right.
Daddy longlegs ain't venomous!!!
Quote from: bigG on February 12, 2016, 07:13:13 AM
It seemed to be more the guys who thought they knew tons more than they really did. Prove 'em wrong 50 times; and they still think they're right.
Daddy longlegs ain't venomous!!!
Daddy long legs = food? ...and I thought we birdwalked on this forum! (kinda like we are doing right now) ;D
Everything's food 'f ya fix it rite!
Quote from: bigG on February 12, 2016, 02:00:39 PM
Everything's food 'f ya fix it rite!
Including manure? ???
Of course what was manure before it was manure?
Quote from: Jimmy on February 12, 2016, 08:33:12 PM
Of course what was manure before it was manure?
True, but there are a few steps involved in completing that cycle. If manure = food, then food = manure... although I'll admit that some food does taste pretty similar. :P
Warning - Do not start reading this thread on page 5. It is like stepping into a crazy twighlight zone episode.
Quote from: LTD on February 12, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Warning - Do not start reading this thread on page 5. It is like stepping into a crazy twighlight zone episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6wNGwd84g
Quote from: LTD on February 12, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Warning - Do not start reading this thread on page 5. It is like stepping into a crazy twighlight zone episode.
+1 ;D
Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 13, 2016, 07:45:05 AM
Quote from: LTD on February 12, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Warning - Do not start reading this thread on page 5. It is like stepping into a crazy twighlight zone episode.
+1 ;D
It's not my fault. There was a gremlin on the wing of the plane. ;)
My dark horse won his regional today.
Step one. Check.
Quote from: Ghetto on February 13, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
My dark horse won his regional today.
Step one. Check.
Thanks for not throwing him under the bus by naming him...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
All I can say is I'm sure glad I didn't have coaches like you morons. You really think a kid is gonna care who some old guys pick on a forum? No wonder your teams are bad.
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 14, 2016, 02:22:47 AM
All I can say is I'm sure glad I didn't have coaches like you morons. You really think a kid is gonna care who some old guys pick on a forum? No wonder your teams are bad.
Lol. Lighten up.
Quote from: Ghetto on February 14, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 14, 2016, 02:22:47 AM
All I can say is I'm sure glad I didn't have coaches like you morons. You really think a kid is gonna care who some old guys pick on a forum? No wonder your teams are bad.
Lol. Lighten up.
I always wondered what the Grinch did after Christmas. ;D
Quote from: Ghetto on February 14, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 14, 2016, 02:22:47 AM
All I can say is I'm sure glad I didn't have coaches like you morons. You really think a kid is gonna care who some old guys pick on a forum? No wonder your teams are bad.
Lol. Lighten up.
I am guessing Bulldog dark horse got spanked yesterday. Well there is always next year, Train harder poodle
Quote from: Josh Crass on February 14, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
Mason Phillips ranked third will win it all d1 113 I believe
Did you copy and paste that from last hear? BTW I hope you're correct.
Quote from: Josh Crass on February 14, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
Mason Phillips ranked third will win it all d1 113 I believe
Mason has been impressive for certain! It is going to take one heck of an effort to beat him.
Saturday may give us the answer. I hope he represents the west well!
Good Luck....
Jmo,Mason Phillips will qualify for state by taking 2nd behind Koontz(stevens pt)113lbs div 1 is going to be 1 of the deepest wt classes down in Madtown.
My dark horse pinned through regionals. I wouldn't pick anyone weak minded enough to worry about what washed up old dudes like me say on a forum. I can understand why Ram thinks that, the only person I ever wrestled from that school quit during match and gave up against me. Maybe rammy told him someone on a forum picked him.
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 14, 2016, 05:18:47 PM
My dark horse pinned through regionals. I wouldn't pick anyone weak minded enough to worry about what washed up old dudes like me say on a forum. I can understand why Ram thinks that, the only person I ever wrestled from that school quit during match and gave up against me. Maybe rammy told him someone on a forum picked him.
Pretty sure they didn't have a forum back then, but I could be wrong you seem to know everything
My new dark horse. Shawn Waalen from Amery...makes it to state @ 145. Tough kid, been wrestling up all year, appears to be filling varsity spots where he was needed, filled in for the injured starter and won the regional.
Quote from: Ghetto on February 13, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
My dark horse won his regional today.
Step one. Check.
Sure he did. ;D
Quote from: Josh Crass on February 14, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
Mason Phillips ranked third will win it all d1 113 I believe
My pick also. Should be some great matches the next two weeks though.
Quote from: bulldog90 on February 14, 2016, 05:18:47 PM
My dark horse pinned through regionals. I wouldn't pick anyone weak minded enough to worry about what washed up old dudes like me say on a forum. I can understand why Ram thinks that, the only person I ever wrestled from that school quit during match and gave up against me. Maybe rammy told him someone on a forum picked him.
Ha ha what are you talking about ?
Man you really an angry dude.
By the way the old dude is telling you that you may want to ease up some this is just a little harmless banter. ;D ;D
Give us your dark horse tell us all how great he is and how he will dominate all the way to first in the State tournament I am sure they will a pore I ate your vote confidence and your stamp of approval...
Quote from: henry33 on February 14, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
My new dark horse. Shawn Waalen from Amery...makes it to state @ 145. Tough kid, been wrestling up all year, appears to be filling varsity spots where he was needed, filled in for the injured starter and won the regional.
Was Benetiz injured?
Quote from: Houndhead on February 15, 2016, 08:19:30 AM
Quote from: henry33 on February 14, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
My new dark horse. Shawn Waalen from Amery...makes it to state @ 145. Tough kid, been wrestling up all year, appears to be filling varsity spots where he was needed, filled in for the injured starter and won the regional.
Was Benetiz injured?
Yes same knee as last year
Elliot Luker from Hortonville is up at 170 for the rest of the year and is my dark horse pick to win that weight.
Quote from: Grappler on February 15, 2016, 09:31:17 AM
Elliot Luker from Hortonville is up at 170 for the rest of the year and is my dark horse pick to win that weight.
D1 170 will be awesome to watch....will be one of the deepest brackets at state. Can't wait!
Quote from: 3wrestle on February 15, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: Houndhead on February 15, 2016, 08:19:30 AM
Quote from: henry33 on February 14, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
My new dark horse. Shawn Waalen from Amery...makes it to state @ 145. Tough kid, been wrestling up all year, appears to be filling varsity spots where he was needed, filled in for the injured starter and won the regional.
Was Benetiz injured?
Yes same knee as last year
Too bad for him once again, he's had some horrible injury luck over the years with timing of them.
Zach Miller-Tosa -145.
Quote from: gwmiller44 on February 16, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
Zach Miller-Tosa -145.
Z Miller = great wrestler/great kid........good luck!
My Horse Made It! :)
ill go with the 170 from Deforest... ;)
Quote from: henry33 on February 14, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
My new dark horse. Shawn Waalen from Amery...makes it to state @ 145. Tough kid, been wrestling up all year, appears to be filling varsity spots where he was needed, filled in for the injured starter and won the regional.
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My horse made it too! Way to go Shawn...
My dark horse won the sectional. On to next week.
My darkhorse: Josh Becker, Sheboygan Falls 152.
Based on nobody picking him in the "D1 State" topic ... I'd say Samson qualifies as a darkhorse ... and I'll be happy to take him.
126- Mutimer, Badger
Quote from: neutral on February 24, 2016, 10:21:17 PM
Based on nobody picking him in the "D1 State" topic ... I'd say Samson qualifies as a darkhorse ... and I'll be happy to take him.
That's why they wrestle the matches...
Hayden Schlough D1 132, Dark Horse, but don't tell anybody.
Billy Pitzner, Dalton Shea, and the young Tristian Woods...... :)
Ethan Leis and Dylan Campton, baby!!
McDevil is in town.... ;)