Any predictions on this years titles in the 98-99 age group?
No replies yet? I'm still working on mine. They will be out tonight. :)
I just want to beat Ice to his picks, so I'll give it a try
80 Landgraf or One of the Koontz boys
85 don't know so Ill guess Walker or Scharenbrock
90 Bergelin or Klein
95 Leon or Ryan or Jenny
100 it is stacked and not picking for personal reasons
105 Shea or Acosta
110 Bird or Hansen
115 Luker or Von Ruden
120 Krein or Garcia
125 Bahr
130 Johnson or Yde
135 don't know
140 Williams
145 Engel or Raschka
150 don't know
160 another loaded bracket Jandrin or Belongia
The rest are too much above where I pay attention to
110 also has Michael Bertrand and Brady shulfer, another beasty weight class
100 Mocco and Kauffman
105 Acosta and Blanchard
Ken I am dissapointed! Your very biased picks should look like this
80- Anderson or Dentino
85- Depies of Lasanske
90- Hensley
95- Ryan
100- Mocco
105-
110- McMahon
115-
120- Gorges
125- Ipsarides
130- Yde or McCutcheon
135-
140 Dykstra or Berg
145- Raschka
190- Beltran
240- Albrecht
That would make for a very good weekend :)
80- Mason Phillips
85- Logan Walker
90- Brock Bergelin
95- Tristan Jenny
100- Mason Kaufman/Peyton Mocco
I hope the brackets are arranged so these 2 meet in the finals
105- Jose Acosta
110-Cal Hansen
115- Cruze Hurlbert
120- Bryce Younger
125- Devin Bahr
130- Micah Johnson
135-
140- Connor Williams
145- Austin Engel
150-
160- Jake Belongia
175- Kam Bornbach
135- Tanner Cadman--WOW is 160 LOADED! dON'T FORGET ABOUT ONE OTHER VERY IMPORTANT PIECE TO THIS PUZZLE- Alex Peplinski from WB!
160# dalton hahn from Reedsburg will be tough!
Brock is 00/01
Here are my predictions ;D
80 Phillips/Koontz x 2
85 Schoenherr
90 Klein/ :o Van Maanen :o
95 Jenny/Ryan
100 Kauffman/Mocco
105 Shea
110 Bertrand/Shulfer
115 Cruze
120 Krein/Garcia/Winchel
125 Bahr
130 Johnson
135 Cadman/Rueth
140 Williams
145 Engel/Coffeen
150 Persike/Kitslaar
160 Belongia/Hahn
175 Bornbach
190 - 270 ??
How many of these kids have older brothers that were state champs in HS in 2013? I counted Bird, Scharenbrock (if its his brother) and Shea (if their brothers)
Of the weight classes I somewhat know couldn't pick one so thought I would throw 2 at each.
105 Acosta or Garrett
110 Bertrand or Bird
115 Luker or Roth
120 Krein or Garcia
125 Bahr or Trepanier
130 Johnson or Alt
135 Routhieaux or Gahnz
140 Williams or Smerchek
145 Engle or O'Meara
150 Kitslaar or Decorah
160 Schlass or Jandrin
175 Kamren Bornbach
160- Alex Peplinski
150- Casey Persike
145- Austin Engle
140- Connor Williams
135- ???
130- Micah Johnson
125- Devin Bahr
120- Jaden Winchel
115- Cruze Hurlbert
110-105-???
100- Mason Kauffman
95-90-????
85- Jermey Schoenherr
80- Koontz or Koontz
90 Klein
95 Leon
100 Kaufman
105 Acosta
110 Bertrand
115 Von ruden
120 younger
125 Bahr
130 Johnson
135 routhieaux
140 Williams
145 engle
Some guesses
80 Koontz
85 Scharenbrock/Daniels
90 Klein
95 Jenny/Leon
100 Kauffman/Mocco
105 Shea/Acosta
110 Bertrand / Hansen
115 .............
120 Krein/Winchel
125 Bahr / Payne
130 Johnson
135 Gahnz
140 Williams
I would like to predict all the weights correctly, but I can't and I doubt anyone else can. A lot of it depends on the bracket setup and match ups. The bracket I am most familiar with is pretty even and hard to predict. I hear a lot about Jeremy Schoenherr, strong and dedicated, yet we have never seen him wrestle. Scharenbrock is another name and has past credentials at state and beyond. We have finished second the past two years and you might say we are a favorite. The reality is, there are quite a few wrestlers that are very equal in talent and quite seasoned. Most did not place last year at state, yet I know they are very talented and have been for some time. The best wrestler on a certain weekend, day, hour will prevail. May all the kids enjoy the experience, it is truly a one of a kind.
Quote from: walkd on March 13, 2013, 11:28:07 PM
I would like to predict all the weights correctly, but I can't and I doubt anyone else can. A lot of it depends on the bracket setup and match ups. The bracket I am most familiar with is pretty even and hard to predict. I hear a lot about Jeremy Schoenherr, strong and dedicated, yet we have never seen him wrestle. Scharenbrock is another name and has past credentials at state and beyond. We have finished second the past two years and you might say we are a favorite. The reality is, there are quite a few wrestlers that are very equal in talent and quite seasoned. Most did not place last year at state, yet I know they are very talented and have been for some time. The best wrestler on a certain weekend, day, hour will prevail. May all the kids enjoy the experience, it is truly a one of a kind.
Nice post Dave! It's true, any wrestler, ANY wrestler can be beaten on any given day. I would rather have my sons always be the underdogs (and they usually are), fighting their way through than over confident. If fact, I show my one son the posts on here where he is
not favored and tell him to Prove them wrong. Having said that, I truly hope Logan is at the very top of the podium this year.
This has been a hard year for our family. My dad passed away last month after a lengthy illness. My boys have not wrestled in as many tournaments as they usually do for this reason- wrestling has really taken a back burner this year. But, we have been blessed to have the wrestling family that we do. The coaches have been integral in building up my sons' confidence, working them hard but giving them the consistency and feedback needed to make them better. They never have any doubt that their coaches care about their success- they show it at every match and every practice. The other parents in our club cheer them on and are the first to hug/high five or congratulate them when they are successful and their practice partners are literally and figuratively always in their corner. We've also met the most amazing wrestling people from around the state who have sent thoughts and prayers and messages of encouragement for our boys. I am so very grateful for all of these people. The last few months would have been much harder without them.
Sorry for getting a little melancholy... wrestling, itself, may not be the most important thing in life, but because of the club we belong to and the wonderful wrestling people we are surrounded by, it's right up their for our family. So, no matter if you kid wins or loses next week (or any week!), be grateful for the experience, and especially the people with you on the ride.
Colin Schubert from Southern was High School State Champ this year. I tell the younger kids he was mediocre as a middle school wrestler. His dad told me that was generous, he was awful. Kids mature mentally and physically at different stages. The kid that doesn't make the podium now, certainly could in the future.
Quote from: walkd on March 14, 2013, 12:04:59 PM
Colin Schubert from Southern was High School State Champ this year. I tell the younger kids he was mediocre as a middle school wrestler. His dad told me that was generous, he was awful. Kids mature mentally and physically at different stages. The kid that doesn't make the podium now, certainly could in the future.
+1000. This is so true...let it be fun while they are young...no one will remember if they won a state title in youth once they hit high school. We just want them to be there in high school.
Quote from: walkd on March 14, 2013, 12:04:59 PM
Colin Schubert from Southern was High School State Champ this year. I tell the younger kids he was mediocre as a middle school wrestler. His dad told me that was generous, he was awful. Kids mature mentally and physically at different stages. The kid that doesn't make the podium now, certainly could in the future.
Love that. Kids can get excruciatingly frustrated if they don't make state during the middle school years, or if they find themselves getting pounded on all the time and taking more losses than wins. It is helpful for people to remind them that the middle school champs aren't always the HS champs, and vice versa. That hard work can pay off. We had a ms "stud" in our club a few years back that everyone favored. Two years into high school he dropped out; his interests changed. It happens. Keep working hard!
Quote from: W-Snoop on March 14, 2013, 11:32:23 AM
QuoteThe reality is, there are quite a few wrestlers that are very equal in talent and quite seasoned. Most did not place last year at state, yet I know they are very talented and have been for some time. The best wrestler on a certain weekend, day, hour will prevail. May all the kids enjoy the experience, it is truly a one of a kind.
Nice post and so true. My son has been wrestling since he was little. Growing, learning from his losses and wins and becoming a better wrestler as he has gotten older. My son has had the pleasure of participating at State in Madison and standing on the podium only a few of those times. Like I tell him, be PROUD and stand tall no matter what. You are one of the 16 kids in your weight class that made it this far. Not many get to see that chance, and its very unfortunate that they don't. Hard work and determination all pays off. And as for predicting the outcomes, I feel as these wrestlers get older, the competition only gets better, so its really anyones game. It is true, anyone CAN be beat at any given time. But I do have to say I am proud of my son when he's standing next to the other 15 kids at State (if he has made it) knowing that he's at the same level of a wrestler as the other tough kids are that he's been wrestling with for years.
Good Luck to all the State Qualifiers this next week in Madison.
Nicely said Snoop! State means alot to these wrestlers now. Its obvious that you cannot compare HS vs Elementary State titles. This thread got off track a little. The hard work by these youth now will build their chances at competing at the next level. Good luck to everyone!
Profound statements now closed. For those who were having fun making predictions, you may proceed. ;D
+1000. This is so true...let it be fun while they are young...no one will remember if they won a state title in youth once they hit high school. We just want them to be there in high school.
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While I agree with your point here that there is no comparison or correlation between HS and youth, I disagree with your statement. I believe many of these kids will remember, and many people will remember. This may be the highest things they accomplish. So why diminish the accomplishment of being a youth state champ. And yes I remember that Breske and Bird and Lee and Smith and Marko, and Pelot etc.. were multi time state placer as youth. Is there a comparison is HS state champ and youth state champ NO
Don't think anyone was diminishing anything...the discussion was about a kid whom by his dads own statement ,wasn't very good in youth yet still won a high school state championship. Yes, I believe to much emphasis is put on youth wrestling....at to early of an age. As a parent I would cherish my sons accomplishments in any youth sport...but I would not make it a defining moment in their lives. As I get older and watch my three sons grow in the sport of wrestling, I realize its not that important.
I can not speak for any of the others you mentioned but while Smith has not forgotten his accomplishments...he has them in perspective and does not view them as a big deal. As a parent I want my young wrestlers to learn the sport , respect the sport, learn to win , learn to loose and most importantly have fun.
I can also say my view of things with wrestling has evolved over the last twelve years. Things we did with my oldest son we wouldn't even consider with the younger two.
Again I don't disagree with what your saying, and I dont think you we're diminishing anyone's accomplishments But your comment no one will remember a youth state title, is not true in my case. Will it have less meaning as time goes on, maybe? But then again my kid may not wrestle forever, so I choose to hold it in high regards right now.
Everybody needs to relax and do as they think there kids should, have fun!!!!!!!!! Im sure everybody agrees that its more important in HS but all we have now is youth and it should be important or stop bringing your kids and wait til it matters. March, best month of the year cuz of the WWF not the WIAA.
I see both of your sides aarons and Kmoc. Although I agree as the kids age these youth accomplishments will not mean as much- like anything in life, as you grow and experience different things, the things you've already accomplished are in the past and don't mean as much. But as these kids are living this, State is the most important thing at that time. These kids train all year for this and I bet they will always remember how it felt to stand at the top of the podium- best in your state at year group and weight- all the hard work paying off. I vehemently hope that these experiences, precious as they are at the time, will be a distant memory for my boys as they pursue bigger and better things- whether in wrestling or in life. Here are my picks:
I'm going to pick top 2 in each weight.
80 A Koontz / Mason Philips
85 Walker / Schoenherr
90 Klein / Berglin
95 Jenny/Schultz
100 Kauffman/Mocco
105 Shea/Acosta
110 Bird / Hansen
115 Hurlbert / Von Ruden
120 I'm going to pick the top 6 here, since my kid is in here: Krein/Winchel/ Younger/Garcia/Bethel/Lichtfuss
Hopefully that is less jinxing... :-X
125 Bahr / Payne
130 Johnson / Alt
135 Gahnz / Haugen
140 Williams /Westfall
160 Belongia /Peplinski
175 Bornbach /
And even if these accomplishments don't mean squat in high school or college, may all of the qualifiers enjoy the beauty of this competition.
Mommabear is right...these kids are living this. The only criticism, I have about the picks is everyone is being wishy-washy. Be Bold, pick one per weight! I will also say, these kids who are on these lists didn't just appear here because they wrestled an hour or two each week. Most of their friends in their schools, who do not wrestle, have no clue what these kids do to put themselves in these situations. The forum is a great tool! It is cool that these kids have accomplished something and people know their names across our state. Let's have fun with this moment in their lives. I think we should follow these posts up with which picker is the most accurate. I think Momma has got 120 covered :D
80 Koontz ;)
85 Schoenherr
90 Bergelin
95 Jenny
100 Kauffman
110 Bertrand
115 Donnelly
120 Sarver
125 Bahr
130 Johnson
135 Goodman
140 Williams
145 Coffeen
150 LaRue
160 Jandrin
175 Bornbach
To all the wrestlers I did not pick, Good Luck! Prove me wrong and enjoy the journey.
I echo the "have fun, enjoy the moment". Hopefully the parents don't get in the way of the kids just going out and playing on a little bigger stage and having a blast!
Anymore predictions? I think I might be 100% accurate with some after seeing some 8th Graders testing their skills at the Cadet level with 9/10 Graders. :D
Quote from: ICEMAN on March 12, 2013, 05:30:31 PM
Here are my predictions ;D
80 Phillips/Koontz x 2
85 Schoenherr
90 Klein/ :o Van Maanen :o
95 Jenny/Ryan
100 Kauffman/Mocco
105 Shea
110 Bertrand/Shulfer
115 Cruze
120 Krein/Garcia/Winchel
125 Bahr
130 Johnson
135 Cadman/Rueth
140 Williams
145 Engel/Coffeen
150 Persike/Kitslaar
160 Belongia/Hahn
175 Bornbach
190 - 270 ??
Congrats Boys! 11 of my picks pulled it off. Can't wait to see these guys in HS next year.
Good job ICEMAN, but you picked 2 boys at 10 of the 17 predictions. I only picked 1 in this age group, Dalton Hahn from Reedsburg and nobody scored a point on him all weekend. I did see that your also were the only other to mention him in this so called toughest weight. Also seen some other real tough soon to be High Schoolers.
Quote from: walkd on March 13, 2013, 11:28:07 PM
I would like to predict all the weights correctly, but I can't and I doubt anyone else can. A lot of it depends on the bracket setup and match ups. The bracket I am most familiar with is pretty even and hard to predict. I hear a lot about Jeremy Schoenherr, strong and dedicated, yet we have never seen him wrestle. Scharenbrock is another name and has past credentials at state and beyond. We have finished second the past two years and you might say we are a favorite. The reality is, there are quite a few wrestlers that are very equal in talent and quite seasoned. Most did not place last year at state, yet I know they are very talented and have been for some time. The best wrestler on a certain weekend, day, hour will prevail. May all the kids enjoy the experience, it is truly a one of a kind.
We feel very fortunate to have finished second in this 85 lb bracket. All the kids that placed could have finished in a different order on a different weekend. Daniels was a tough match and almost gave me a coronary. Dolota caught Schoenherr and took out the possible favorite. Schoenherr looked like a beast after that match. Scharenbrock was the champ and deserved it. Logan had him in his signature move (cradle) and could not turn him. Great close matches and outstanding talent top to bottom.
I would also like to commend all the parents, coaches and wrestlers in this bracket. I saw nothing but good sportsmanship. Many of these kids were engaging and are genuinely good kids. Congrats to all and thanks for an enjoyable weekend.
Nice predictions Iceman - sorry Belongia let you down. Perhaps next year when Belongia is in 8th grade he can make your prediction come true but only in a heavier weight class. If only he wrestled all year. That prediction might have come true as a 7th grader. See you in 2014.