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Title: Penn St?
Post by: leg turk on January 12, 2019, 11:14:00 PM
Will we win any weight classes?
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Post by: GoodGod on January 12, 2019, 11:30:35 PM
Brown wins by 6 cuz he doesn't get majors. I have faith at 49, 65 and 285.
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 09:00:58 AM
I think we get two win. 125 and 165. Would be awesome to see Hillger beat Cassar but he didn't look great on Friday.
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Post by: billymurphy on January 13, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
125 lbs is 100 percent certain victory and that will be a dominate victory.  It is very likely Penn State rests a few starters so we will win a few, but if they do not,
then we likely will not win another.   I do not like our chances against Bo.
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Post by: jdwrestle on January 13, 2019, 10:14:53 AM
Is the meet at noon central time or noon eastern time?
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Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Place your bets.  Disclaimer Penn State regulars must wrestle at 141/165/174/197.

Badger team points 5.5
Penn State team points 37
C. Brown takedowns 3
Jens non-escape points 1 (push with Penn St penalty point)
Lee -4
Martin Points 3.5
Match length at 157 4:00
Joseph -2.5
Hall -9.5
Mason points 3.5
Match length at 197 3:00
Hilger +2
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wrestling Thug on January 13, 2019, 10:51:18 AM
I would say that 25 is probably the only one Wisconsin wins, but I did see that Vincenzo did sit out Northwestern! If that match up doesn't happen than Wisconsin wins 2 matches.
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 11:47:40 AM
Cenzo not wrestling. Will be Manville for PSU at 165.
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Post by: Wrestling Thug on January 13, 2019, 11:54:49 AM
Wow that's a tough match up too! Mason is tough!
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
No Wick at 165.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
Flo Wrestling Announcers said Mason Manville vs Evan Wick at 165
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
Dual underway at 125...
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:14:37 PM
Brown wins 18-9
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:24:40 PM
Bravo Young 12 Lantz 4

I thought Jens had the last takedown at buzzer, but not awarded...
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 12:29:45 PM
Could see Wick vs Mark Hall!!!
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
MORAN WINS 12-10 IN OVERTIME!!
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 12:44:57 PM
Moran with a huge win!!!
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Post by: leg turk on January 13, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
That a boy Moran!
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Post by: bigoil on January 13, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
Awesome Bean Machine!
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 12:53:45 PM
Martin over #10 Berge!!!!!
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
MARTIN BEATS BERGE 8-7!!

HUGE COMEBACK!!!
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Post by: bigoil on January 13, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
MARTIN BEATS BERGE 8-7!!

HUGE COMEBACK!!!

Huge win.
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Post by: TomM on January 13, 2019, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
MARTIN BEATS BERGE 8-7!!
HUGE COMEBACK!!!

Nice...
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
Scored more points than any other team all season and we're only through 4 matches.
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
Nolf beats Bahr by tech fall
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Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 01:06:43 PM
Wisconsin 10 Penn St 9 at intermission.
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Post by: BuckyMatt on January 13, 2019, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 01:06:43 PM
Wisconsin 10 Penn St 9 at intermission.
Who would have thought?? A trademark of Bono is he has his guys ready to wrestle!! Love it!! Yes
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Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
2 big upsets against the number 1 team. Things are looking up for the team. Everytime I think we hit a high(beat Nebraska, 3rd at Midlands)) we get another one.
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:24:21 PM
Evan Wick wins 6-1
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Post by: bigoil on January 13, 2019, 01:24:33 PM
13-9
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Hall beats Spray by tech fall...
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Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Hall beats Spray by tech fall...

And after 174 Penn State takes their first lead of the day at 14-13.
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Post by: billymurphy on January 13, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
Bono gives great speeches before the team takes the mat.
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:43:27 PM
Rasheed 5 Reinhardt 0

PSU 17 WI 13
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Post by: TomM on January 13, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: billymurphy on January 13, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
Bono gives great speeches before the team takes the mat.
I don't think Sanderson says anything at all before the matches....  8)
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Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:53:06 PM
Nickal 14 Breske 3

PSU 21 WI 13
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Post by: dad 2 5 on January 13, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 01:53:06 PM
Nickal 14 Breske 3

PSU 21 WI 13

Not a win for BB but saved a couple of team points, that is good. He will add some strength to the line up!
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Post by: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
How has there not been one single stall call against PSU?  There have been many marginal at best against Bucky in my opinion.  Some warranted, some garbage!
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 02:03:41 PM
Cassar 11 Hillger 5

PSU 24 WI 13 Final
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Post by: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
I think this was a great showing by UW today.  Proud of the boys and how they wrestled.  No other team has scored this much on PSU this year.  Great job guys!
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: TomM on January 13, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
How has there not been one single stall call against PSU?  There have been many marginal at best against Bucky in my opinion.  Some warranted, some garbage!

Annoying agreed, but those calls were not the difference in the match...
Then again, I think the ref was wearing Nittany underwear... Not good optics when he gives a high five to Sanderson on his way off the mat after the meet ends.... just sayin' ...
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: TomM on January 13, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
I think this was a great showing by UW today.  Proud of the boys and how they wrestled.  No other team has scored this much on PSU this year.  Great job guys!
UW won four of ten matches, correct?
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: leg turk on January 13, 2019, 02:10:02 PM
Great effort Badgers!  They fought the whole way, no matter the score.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
I think this was a great showing by UW today.  Proud of the boys and how they wrestled.  No other team has scored this much on PSU this year.  Great job guys!

Hoped for 1 upset at 141/149/Hwt today and the Badgers won 2 of these 3 matches!
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 13, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
I think this was a great showing by UW today.  Proud of the boys and how they wrestled.  No other team has scored this much on PSU this year.  Great job guys!
UW won four of ten matches, correct?

Yes - Brown, Moran, Martin and Wick
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: stbird on January 13, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
Who did Wick wrestle?
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: leg turk on January 13, 2019, 03:12:22 PM
Quote from: stbird on January 13, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
Who did Wick wrestle?

Manville
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 06:37:28 PM
Takedowns

Penn state 39
Badgers 8

Still need to get better on the feet if the program wants to be dominate.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: CLC FAN on January 13, 2019, 07:13:54 PM
Quote from: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 06:37:28 PM

Still need to get better on the feet if the program wants to be dominate.

Dominant.  It's the adjective one.  Dominate is a thing someone does.  Dominant is a thing someone is.



File mine under the "One useless post deserves another" category.  Of course we lost the TD battle by a huge margin... it's freaking Penn State.  Did anyone expect different?
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: jchap on January 13, 2019, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: CLC FAN on January 13, 2019, 07:13:54 PM
Quote from: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 06:37:28 PM

Still need to get better on the feet if the program wants to be dominate.

Dominant.  It's the adjective one.  Dominate is a thing someone does.  Dominant is a thing someone is.



File mine under the "One useless post deserves another" category.  Of course we lost the TD battle by a huge margin... it's freaking Penn State.  Did anyone expect different?
You obviously meant:  Did anyone expect differently?
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 08:51:40 PM
Flo has video of the Sanderson post match press conference.
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Post by: littleguy301 on January 13, 2019, 09:04:17 PM
Talked to a friend on mine that is working out there and went to the match. He said it was a fun meet and nice place. Though he said it was quite during most of the dual but the Penn state crowd was very supportive of how the badger competed.
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Post by: mkm13 on January 14, 2019, 07:42:13 AM
Quote from: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 06:37:28 PM
Takedowns

Penn state 39
Badgers 8

Still need to get better on the feet if the program wants to be dominate.

That looks bad, but a lot better than most, especially when you consider we did not give up a pin, which is pretty impressive against a team like that.  They have 9 guys that are elite on their feet.

But I agree going forward, that is where we will really need to improve to be a top 5 program.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Oldtimer on January 14, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
These two guys are excellent wrestlers but I'd like to see more urgency to score from Evan Wick and Thor.  I was confused at the decision to start neutral by Thor vs Rutgers when every point was needed to get a major for the dual meet.  Evan seems content to dominate on the mat by riding and waiting for stall calls vs finding other ways to build points against lesser wrestlers.

I'm not their coach though so just a comment and observational opinion.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 14, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: Numbers on January 13, 2019, 06:37:28 PM
Takedowns

Penn state 39
Badgers 8

Still need to get better on the feet if the program wants to be dominate.


Penn State's 3 National Champs did account for around 23 of those .... still a disparity in their favor though ..


As Luke mentioned, it would nice to see the breakdown of the matches... I don't think trackwrestling or anyone else keeps track of stats for indiviudal dual meet matches however...
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Post by: Numbers on January 14, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Quote from: Luke Louison on January 14, 2019, 08:09:17 AM
Is there a place to go where the data of each match might be logged. That is, on Track Wrestling, you can click on a high school tournament bout and see how the scoring went. Does that place exist for college duals?

Luke,

Go to trackwrestling - browse - seasons- 2018/19 College Men - NCAA  to give you the listing of events
Select event and click print score sheet
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: TomM on January 14, 2019, 11:46:15 AM
Have you tried this? Click on 'Print Score Sheet' at top of dual result on results site.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2a4v254.jpg)


Quote from: Luke Louison on January 14, 2019, 11:03:17 AM
We crushed them in escapes! 38-7!!! Dominant!

Here's the link that got me. Thanks Numbers:

http://www.trackwrestling.com/seasons/DualMatches.jsp?TIM=1547485269029&twSessionId=exacwhhczf&dualId=2142592132

Still wish I could get a match-by-match breakdown, but it doesn't seem they have that available.
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Post by: bkraus on January 14, 2019, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: TomM on January 13, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: bkraus on January 13, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
I think this was a great showing by UW today.  Proud of the boys and how they wrestled.  No other team has scored this much on PSU this year.  Great job guys!
UW won four of ten matches, correct?

Yes, you are correct.  125, 141, 149, 165.
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 14, 2019, 11:59:20 AM
Quote from: Numbers on January 14, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Quote from: Luke Louison on January 14, 2019, 08:09:17 AM
Is there a place to go where the data of each match might be logged. That is, on Track Wrestling, you can click on a high school tournament bout and see how the scoring went. Does that place exist for college duals?

Luke,

Go to trackwrestling - browse - seasons- 2018/19 College Men - NCAA  to give you the listing of events
Select event and click print score sheet


Great information Numbers!
Title: Re: Penn St?
Post by: Ghetto on January 14, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
Cael Sanderson talked pretty highly of Bono and the guys wrestling hard. Said he takes great pride in their conditioning and between the lines he seemed to say that Wisconsin was better conditioned. Mentioned multiple times that he did not have them ready for this dual.
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Post by: Harris on January 14, 2019, 07:52:07 PM

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-wrestling/article224032270.html (https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-wrestling/article224032270.html)