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Title: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 08, 2022, 01:31:24 PM
#1 IOWA 22, #14 MINNESOTA 10
165        #1 Alex Marinelli (IA) dec. Cael Carlson (M), 6-5; 3-0
174        #2 Michael Kemerer (IA) dec. #23 Bailey O'Reilly (M), 9-2; 6-0
184        #18 Abe Assad (IA) major dec. Sam Skillings (M), 12-4; 10-0
197        #5 Jacob Warner (IA) dec. #30 Michial Foy (M), 6-4; 13-0
285        #1 Gable Steveson (M) major dec. #6 Tony Cassioppi (IA), 17-7; 13-4
125        #7 Patrick McKee (M) dec. #14 Drake Ayala (IA), 8-6; 13-7
133        #3 Austin DeSanto (IA) dec. #24 Jake Gliva (M), 7-5; 16-7
141        #2 Jaydin Eierman (IA) dec. #19 Jake Bergeland (M), 6-2; 19-7
149        #12 Max Murin (IA) dec. #25 Michael Blockhus (M), 3-1; 22-7
157        #4 Brayton Lee (M) dec. #12 Kaleb Young (IA), 4-3; 22-10
Records: Iowa (7-0, 1-0), Minnesota (1-2, 0-1)
Attendance: 14,905
Title: Minnesota
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 10, 2022, 01:16:02 PM
Wrestelstat has it 6-4 Minnesota (all decisions with no bonus points) They have the UW winning at 33, 49, 65 and 97.

Lots of interesting matchups with either team winning up to 8 matches.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
125 McKee over Barnett.     Mn 3-Wi 0
133 Burwick over Gliva.  mn 3-Wi 3
141 Bergeland over Zargo.  Mn 6-Wi 3
149 Gomez over Blockhus.  Mn 6-Wi 6
157 Lee over Model.           Mn 10-Wi 6
165 Hamiti over Carlson.    Mn 10-Wi 9
174 O'Reilly over McNally.   Mn 13-Wi 9
184 Salazar over Weiler.      Mn 16-Wi 9
197 Amos over Foy.             Mn 16-Wi 13
285 Steveson over Hilger.     Mn 20-Wi 13

Would not be surprised at upsets by Carlson or Blockhus.  Foy is dangerous as well but Amos is a legitimate butt+kicker.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 10, 2022, 03:14:40 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
125 McKee over Barnett.     Mn 3-Wi 0
133 Burwick over Gliva.  mn 3-Wi 3
141 Bergeland over Zargo.  Mn 6-Wi 3
149 Gomez over Blockhus.  Mn 6-Wi 6
157 Lee over Model.           Mn 10-Wi 6
165 Hamiti over Carlson.    Mn 10-Wi 9
174 O'Reilly over McNally.   Mn 13-Wi 9
184 Salazar over Weiler.      Mn 16-Wi 9
197 Amos over Foy.             Mn 16-Wi 13
285 Steveson over Hilger.     Mn 20-Wi 13

Would not be surprised at upsets by Carlson or Blockhus.  Foy is dangerous as well but Amos is a legitimate butt+kicker.
So Minnesota wins every tossup? Good luck with that.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: mkm13 on January 10, 2022, 03:20:18 PM
I would consider Gliva/Burwick close to a toss up.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 10, 2022, 03:43:11 PM
Looks like it could be a barn-burner - lots of pretty close matches that can hinge on a single move or mistake.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: bigoil on January 10, 2022, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 10, 2022, 03:14:40 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
125 McKee over Barnett.     Mn 3-Wi 0
133 Burwick over Gliva.  mn 3-Wi 3
141 Bergeland over Zargo.  Mn 6-Wi 3
149 Gomez over Blockhus.  Mn 6-Wi 6
157 Lee over Model.           Mn 10-Wi 6
165 Hamiti over Carlson.    Mn 10-Wi 9
174 O'Reilly over McNally.   Mn 13-Wi 9
184 Salazar over Weiler.      Mn 16-Wi 9
197 Amos over Foy.             Mn 16-Wi 13
285 Steveson over Hilger.     Mn 20-Wi 13

Would not be surprised at upsets by Carlson or Blockhus.  Foy is dangerous as well but Amos is a legitimate butt+kicker.
So Minnesota wins every tossup? Good luck with that.
I can see a tie, I could see WI winning every match other than HWT and I can see MN winning 7-8. There I think I covered the entire fence, WI wins 19-15.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: BuckyMatt on January 10, 2022, 04:49:42 PM
Looks like several weights have very similar rankings and could be "toss ups" (although these are last weeks rankings)

125 # 7 Mckee vs # 4 Barnett , although McKee has won the last few
133 #24 Gilva vs #25 Burwick
141 #19 Bergeland vs #24 Zargo
174 #23 Oreily vs #17 McNally
184: MnBadger, how come Skillings wrestled against Iowa but Salazar will against Wisconsin? 
197 #24 Braxton vs # #30 Foy

These 6 Matches will obviously determine the match as I think Wisconsin is favored at 149 and 165 and Minnesota is favored at 157 and HWT
Should be an excellent dual!   
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 05:40:26 PM
What toss ups did I claim for MN?  At the end I mentioned losses that could flip for MN(Carlson, Blockhus, and Foy) but I am counting them as losses.  What toss ups are you referring to?   
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 10, 2022, 03:14:40 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
125 McKee over Barnett.     Mn 3-Wi 0
133 Burwick over Gliva.  mn 3-Wi 3
141 Bergeland over Zargo.  Mn 6-Wi 3
149 Gomez over Blockhus.  Mn 6-Wi 6
157 Lee over Model.           Mn 10-Wi 6
165 Hamiti over Carlson.    Mn 10-Wi 9
174 O'Reilly over McNally.   Mn 13-Wi 9
184 Salazar over Weiler.      Mn 16-Wi 9
197 Amos over Foy.             Mn 16-Wi 13
285 Steveson over Hilger.     Mn 20-Wi 13

Would not be surprised at upsets by Carlson or Blockhus.  Foy is dangerous as well but Amos is a legitimate butt+kicker.
So Minnesota wins every tossup? Good luck with that.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 05:46:52 PM
I am not sure Salazar will be back.  He hurt his knee or ankle in the Scuffle.  If Skillings wrestles it could be a fall for the Badgers in their favor.  I don't see Gliva giving Burwick as good a match as you guys think he will.  I would be happy to see it though!.
Quote from: BuckyMatt on January 10, 2022, 04:49:42 PM
Looks like several weights have very similar rankings and could be "toss ups" (although these are last weeks rankings)

125 # 7 Mckee vs # 4 Barnett , although McKee has won the last few
133 #24 Gilva vs #25 Burwick
141 #19 Bergeland vs #24 Zargo
174 #23 Oreily vs #17 McNally
184: MnBadger, how come Skillings wrestled against Iowa but Salazar will against Wisconsin? 
197 #24 Braxton vs # #30 Foy

These 6 Matches will obviously determine the match as I think Wisconsin is favored at 149 and 165 and Minnesota is favored at 157 and HWT
Should be an excellent dual!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 11, 2022, 10:35:52 AM
Northwestern opens Big Ten schedule with Wisconsin, Minnesota losses

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2022/01/10/sports/wrestling-northwestern-opens-big-ten-schedule-with-wisconsin-minnesota-losses/
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: BuckyMatt on January 11, 2022, 02:20:25 PM
This weeks Intermat rankings for the dual
125: #8 vs #13 Barnett
133: #22 vs #27 Burwick
141: #17 vs #33 Zargo
149: #24 vs #10 Gomez
157: #4 vs #33 Model
165: #19 vs #8 Hamiti
174: #23 vs #17 McNally
184: #28 Salazar vs #33 Weiler
197: #30 vs #24 Amos
HWT: #1 vs #8 Hilger
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 11, 2022, 05:50:06 PM
Guessing MN 20-13 with home mat advantage, If in Madison I would think Badgers win strong
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 11, 2022, 06:02:17 PM
1/11 Intermat Rankings

125: #8 Patrick McKee (14-2, NCAA 3rd) vs #13 Eric Barnett (6-1) - Barnett 1-3 vs McKee
133: #24 Jake Gliva (9-6) vs #27 Kyle Burwick (8-8)
141: #17 Jake Bergeland (13-5) vs #33 Joey Zargo (9-5)
149: #24 Michael Blockhus (12-7, NCAA Qual.) vs #10 Austin Gomez (9-1)
157: #4 Brayton Lee (13-0, NCAA 6th) vs #33 Garrett Model (9-6) - Model 0-1 vs Lee
165: #19 Andrew Sparks (4-3, NCAA Qual.) or Cael Carlson (15-8) vs #8 Dean Hamiti (13-0)
174: #23 Bailee O'Reilly (21-5, NCAA Qual. 2020) vs #17 Andrew McNally (6-2)
184: #28 Isaiah Salazar (8-2) or Sam Skillings (3-2) vs #33 Chris Weiler (6-6)
197: #30 Michial Foy (11-5) vs #24 Braxton Amos (12-3)
HWT: #1 Gable Steveson (4-0, NCAA and Oly. Champ) vs #8 Trent Hillger (11-1) - Hillger 0-3 vs Steveson
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrestlemania on January 12, 2022, 12:47:11 PM
Basically the dual should come down to, barring the unexpected, to these weight classes: 141, 174 and 184
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 12, 2022, 10:00:19 PM
I will also throw in 125
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 13, 2022, 09:36:11 AM
Agreed on 125 and probably 133 as well. Very similar resumes for Burwick and Gliva.

Could be a very close dual or not close at all. Either team could literally win or lose 8 matches.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 13, 2022, 10:39:29 AM
Basically the dual will come down to who wrestles better and wins more matches.  ;D
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: BuckyMatt on January 13, 2022, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 13, 2022, 10:39:29 AM
Basically the dual will come down to who wrestles better and wins more matches.  ;D

I'd go so far as to say whichever wrestler  scores more points in their match, will win!!  :)
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: vsmf2010 on January 13, 2022, 12:01:19 PM
Quote from: BuckyMatt on January 13, 2022, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 13, 2022, 10:39:29 AM
Basically the dual will come down to who wrestles better and wins more matches.  ;D

I'd go so far as to say whichever wrestler  scores more points in their match, will win!!  :)

Not necessarily. You can win the match without ever scoring a point.  ;D
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 13, 2022, 04:15:40 PM
Gophers Host Weekend Doubleheader Against Top-10 Cornhuskers, Badgers

https://gophersports.com/news/2022/1/13/wrestling-gophers-host-weekend-doubleheader-against-top-10-cornhuskers-badgers.aspx
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on January 13, 2022, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: vsmf2010 on January 13, 2022, 12:01:19 PM
Quote from: BuckyMatt on January 13, 2022, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 13, 2022, 10:39:29 AM
Basically the dual will come down to who wrestles better and wins more matches.  ;D

I'd go so far as to say whichever wrestler  scores more points in their match, will win!!  :)

Not necessarily. You can win the match without ever scoring a point.  ;D

don't forget about video reviews!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 15, 2022, 10:21:35 AM
FINAL RESULTS:
165: Cael Carlson (MINN) dec. Bubba Wilson (NEB), 6-3
174: #5 Mikey Labriola (NEB) dec. #23 Bailee O'Reilly (MINN), 9-5
184: #28 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) dec. Brandyn Van Tassel (NEB), 9-3
197: #4 Eric Schultz (NEB) dec. #30 Michial Foy (MINN), 2-1
HWT: #1 Gable Steveson) maj. dec. #11 Christian Lance (NEB), 18-6
125: #8 Patrick McKee (MINN) dec. Jeremiah Reno (NEB), 7-2
133: #24 Jake Gliva (MINN) dec. Alex Thomsen (NEB), 8-3
141: #9 Chad Red Jr. maj. dec. Jager Eisch (MINN), 9-0
149: #4 Ridge Lovett (NEB) dec. #24 Michael Blockhus (MINN), 7-2
157: #4 Brayton Lee (MINN) dec. #5 Peyton Robb (NEB), 4-0
#14 Minnesota (19), #10 Nebraska (13)

That is a good win for MN. Carlson over Wilson seems to be the difference marker and looks like Salazar is back
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 15, 2022, 10:29:50 AM
was UW in the hunt or recruiting Wasley?
@devin_wasley from St. Croix Central, commits to the University of Minnesota! 💪
~I'm excited to announce that I will be continuing my academic and athletic career at the University of Minnesota! I want to thank my parents and family for always supporting and being there for me. Lastly, I want to thank my coaches for always pushing me to be the best I can be.  #gopherwrestling 〽️〽️
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 15, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
I really like and appreciate these match-by-match comparisons and predictions!  However it seems like the Big Ten is so darn close and competitive that things often go off the rails quickly.  There are a small number of guys who can be called "for sure", but all-in-all most every match is a unique adventure that often comes down to a key moment or two.  The best conference in the nation and sensational entertainment - Go Badgers!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 15, 2022, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: PAUL on January 15, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
I really like and appreciate these match-by-match comparisons and predictions!  However it seems like the Big Ten is so darn close and competitive that things often go off the rails quickly.  There are a small number of guys who can be called "for sure", but all-in-all most every match is a unique adventure that often comes down to a key moment or two.  The best conference in the nation and sensational entertainment - Go Badgers!

WELL SAID Paul!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 15, 2022, 05:20:13 PM
https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/42/minnesota/77/wisconsin

If WI could get one of the three one point wins by MN it would be a 16-15 win for the Badgers and that would be huge!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 11:22:48 AM
I know this is last minute but....
I have three tickets you can claim.
I'll be in the lobby of the Pavilion at 12:45.
MINNESOTA sweat shirt, brown stocking cap.
I going to give them to the first person who wants them.
Sod
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 01:04:00 PM
Barnett is attacking more on his feet this year.   I love it, no matter what happens in this match.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:11:11 PM
Uh oh MN Badger 0-1 on predictions.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 01:12:11 PM
Honestly I believe that is the best collegiate match I have seen Barnett wrestle.  Congrats Eric.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Army Ant on January 16, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Is there a live commentary or continuous updates anywhere? I don't have B1G+.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 01:23:52 PM
Great for Burwick.  Aggressive the entire match.  Love it!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:24:38 PM
Burwick with a huge 3rd period ride out and a takedown in OT to win it!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 01:39:58 PM
Quote from: Army Ant on January 16, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Is there a live commentary or continuous updates anywhere? I don't have B1G+.

I was wondering the same, not on track which I was hoping for
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: imwi on January 16, 2022, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 01:39:58 PM
Quote from: Army Ant on January 16, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Is there a live commentary or continuous updates anywhere? I don't have B1G+.

I was wondering the same, not on track which I was hoping for

BTNplus
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 01:46:28 PM
Only on Big Ten Plus. It is $10.50 a month if you choose the "Badgers package".  Totally worth it for me.

You can cancel anytime so it basically costs $40.00 for the winter sports season.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 16, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
What a terrific dual this must be....   Hope it continues!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 01:53:11 PM
nice take down MOdel!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:53:19 PM
Model taking it to Braydon Lee!!! 3 takedowns!!!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: head57 on January 16, 2022, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:53:19 PM
Model taking it to Braydon Lee!!! 3 takedowns!!!

Model just completely dominated Lee. That was extremely impressive.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 01:54:28 PM
Awesome match Garrett.  Just like last weekend.  We are fun to watch.  Building.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: imwi on January 16, 2022, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: head57 on January 16, 2022, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:53:19 PM
Model taking it to Braydon Lee!!! 3 takedowns!!!

Model just completely dominated Lee. That was extremely impressive.

WOW!!!  10 5
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 01:54:48 PM
10-5 win and badgers up 12-3
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 01:55:17 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 10, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
125 McKee over Barnett.     Mn 3-Wi 0
133 Burwick over Gliva.  mn 3-Wi 3
141 Bergeland over Zargo.  Mn 6-Wi 3
149 Gomez over Blockhus.  Mn 6-Wi 6
157 Lee over Model.           Mn 10-Wi 6
165 Hamiti over Carlson.    Mn 10-Wi 9
174 O'Reilly over McNally.   Mn 13-Wi 9
184 Salazar over Weiler.      Mn 16-Wi 9
197 Amos over Foy.             Mn 16-Wi 13
285 Steveson over Hilger.     Mn 20-Wi 13

Would not be surprised at upsets by Carlson or Blockhus.  Foy is dangerous as well but Amos is a legitimate butt+kicker.
These are looking hilarious... 😂 Lee MD over Model. Oops
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:06:17 PM
could be big for Dean and is!
18-3
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 02:06:56 PM
Hamiti. Wow!   Keep the momentum rolling.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: head57 on January 16, 2022, 02:07:04 PM
DJ Hamiti is really good.

We have a pretty good wrestling team.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:16:51 PM
McNally just does not look the same, Bailee looked stronger, faster, solid counters
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
I agree on McNally.  Doesn't seem he has adjusted to Big Ten wrestling.  Maybe injured, but who knows.  The same is true for Weiler this year.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 16, 2022, 02:24:27 PM
They are all big, but this is a BIG match coming up for Amos...
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:27:44 PM
really need the Amos win here!
18-11 badgers
two to go
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:37:02 PM
good win Amos
6-4
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 02:38:23 PM
Congrats Badgers. Great to win this match on the road!   Very exciting dual.
See if Hilger can get a TD.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 02:39:00 PM
Cool to see our team grow.  Love the direction they are heading.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: 1Iota on January 16, 2022, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: onwisconsin on January 16, 2022, 02:39:00 PM
Cool to see our team grow.  Love the direction they are heading.

Ditto!   A really fun team to watch. 
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 16, 2022, 02:41:55 PM
Thanks Amos!  Hilger is great but this guy is next level.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: PAUL on January 16, 2022, 02:44:47 PM
It would have been fun to have the old "Barry Davis cam" on Coach Bono today!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:45:31 PM
what a machine!
GS is so fast, so strong, great technical wrestler, maybe one of the best (top 10 all time)
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 02:46:58 PM
great team win today!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 16, 2022, 02:49:40 PM
That was f'ing awesome!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: imwi on January 16, 2022, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: Harris on January 16, 2022, 02:49:40 PM
That was f'ing awesome!

As always, we appreciate your in depth analysis :)  Agree 100%
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: ankle pick on January 16, 2022, 02:57:31 PM
Great win Bucky! That was fun to watch!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 16, 2022, 03:07:31 PM
I believe the last time the Badgers beat Minnesota in a dual was 2011.  That was the first win over Minnesota that Coach Bono has ever had at any school.  Big win for the program.  Big win for the coaching staff, Big win for recruiting, and most importantly, HUGE win for the wrestlers.  Any in-state or national stud recruit that can't see what is happening here needs glasses.  After all the adversity the last two years, these guys are hungry and wrestling as a team in an individual dominated sport.  The last 3 duals have seen multiple different wrestlers step up to make a difference to help the team in victory AND defeat.

Super pumped after that one.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 16, 2022, 03:09:39 PM
If I was 30 years younger, I would go lift some heavy weights or run 5 miles after that one ;D
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 16, 2022, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: Harris on January 16, 2022, 03:07:31 PM
I believe the last time the Badgers beat Minnesota in a dual was 2011.  That was the first win over Minnesota that Coach Bono has ever had at any school.  Big win for the program.  Big win for the coaching staff, Big win for recruiting, and most importantly, HUGE win for the wrestlers.  Any in-state or national stud recruit that can't see what is happening here needs glasses.  After all the adversity the last two years, these guys are hungry and wrestling as a team in an individual dominated sport.  The last 3 duals have seen multiple different wrestlers step up to make a difference to help the team in victory AND defeat.

Super pumped after that one.

+1 agree!!!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrestlemania on January 16, 2022, 03:21:05 PM
Me too! Huge win for the program.

Talent surely helps but you also need a winning culture or better, a standard of expectations to meet and accountability and that's certainly what's going on here.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Numbers on January 16, 2022, 04:29:27 PM
This aged well  ;D

MNbadger
Re: Minnesota vs Wisconsin 10AM Friday BTN Plus
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2021, 12:56:50 pm »
125: #20 Eric Barnett (UW) maj. dec. #6 Patrick McKee (UM), 17-4 (UW 4, UM 0)
133: Boo Dryden (UM) dec. Kyle Burwick (UW), 5-2 (UW 4, UM 3)
141: Marcos Polanco (UM) dec. Dominic Demento (UW), 4-0 (UM 6, UW 4)     
149: Michael Blockhus (UM) dec. Drew Scharenbrock (UW), 13-8 (UM 9, UW 4)
157: #6 Brayton Lee (UM) dec. Garrett Model (UW), 11-7 (UM 12, UW 4)
165: #16 Andrew Sparks (UM) dec. Josh Otto (UW), 7-5 (UM 15, UW 4)
174: #19 Jared Krattiger (UW) dec. #15 Jake Allar (UM), 5-3 (UM 15, UW 7)
184: #11 Owen Webster (UM) dec, Tyler Dow (UW), 5-1 (UM 18, UW 7)
197: Garrett Joles (UM) dec. Andrew Salemme (UW), 9-4 (UM 21, UW 7)
HWT: #1 Gable Steveson (UM) pinned Pete Christensen (UW), 3:20 (UM 27, UW 7)
So, if Wick and Amos wrestled, show me the twenty point swing.  And that still would not give the Badgers the win would it?
They won two of ten bouts.  Two more would be 4 of ten bouts.  Neither are as likely to pin as Steveson would be(considering the level Steveson has grown to and Hilger looks as if he has gone backwards).

MNbadger
Re: Minnesota vs Wisconsin 10AM Friday BTN Plus
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2021, 09:34:10 am »
The bottom line is this; you can SPECULATE all you want.  The proof is in the pudding.  Excuses are like belly buttons, everyone has them.  I criticize the Gophers when they lose to Iowa or anyone else.  They have to recruit better, period.
As I said before, I think( most MN fans online have said the same) if the Gophers wrestled better, they would have beaten the Badgers by more.  Beforehand, this match could have been a shutout by the Gophers if everything fell their way.  The truth is, rarely in DI wrestling does everything fall the right way(this is my point when you speculate about the Badger lineup and count the best case scenario for WI).  The thing is THEY DIDN'T!(referring to the Gophers wrestling better)  I WISH they would have, HOPED they would have, but they did not.
Enough of this for me.   You can imagine every scenario you want, picking and choosing wrestlers who did not/could not? wrestle.
Good luck.

Numbers
Re: Minnesota vs Wisconsin 10AM Friday BTN Plus
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2021, 10:32:51 am »

Well these teams will tangle again next year.  I expect it will be highly competitive because the programs are not worlds apart.

And if Gable is still on the Gophers next year they may even win the dual.

Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 16, 2022, 05:28:29 PM
Final Results:
125: #13 Eric Barnett (WISC) dec. #8 Patrick McKee (MINN), 8-5
133: #27 Kyle Burwick (WISC) dec. #24 Jake Gliva (MINN), 6-4 SV1
141: #17 Jake Bergeland (MINN) dec. #33 Joseph Zargo (WISC), 6-4
149: #10 Austin Gomez (WISC) dec. #24 Michael Blockhus (MINN), 10-6
157: #33 Garrett Model (WISC) dec. #4 Brayton Lee (MINN), 10-5
165: #8 Dean Hamiti (WISC) pinned Cael Carlson (MINN), 1:11
174: #23 Bailee O'Reilly (MINN) maj. dec. #17 Andrew McNally (WISC), 11-3
184: #28 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) maj. dec. #33 Chris Weiler (WISC), 14-5
197: #24 Braxton Amos (WISC) dec. #30 Michial Foy (MINN), 6-4
HWT: #1 Gable Steveson (MINN) maj. dec. #8 Trent Hillger (WISC), 23-9
#9 Wisconsin (21), #14 Minnesota (15)
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 16, 2022, 06:02:31 PM
Great 21-15 team win over a good Gopher squad.  Living in NW Wisconsin now, there is a huge Gopher following up this way and it has been a while since the Badgers had this kind of team.

125: Barnett over McKee.  This is HUGE for seeding.  Barnett looked phenomenal over #8 Patrick McKee (15-3, NCAA 3rd).  What a way to start the dual.
133: Burwick with another huge team win 6-4 in OT over #24 Jake Gliva (10-7).  Burwick wanted it more in OT and you like to see his fight.
141: Zargo with a tough 6-3 loss to #17 Jake Bergeland (14-5).  Good to see him keep it close.  That really helped the team.
149: Gomez looked great again.  Attacking in all positions in a 10-6 win over a tough #24 Michael Blockhus (12-9, NCAA Qual.).
157: Model with the win of the dual meet.  So happy to see him get the 10-5 upset over #4 Brayton Lee (14-1, NCAA 6th).  That was Lee's first loss.
165: Hamiti was electric.  He is dangerous in all positions with the pin over Cael Carlson (16-9).  Huge team points and great way to come out of the break.
174: McNally with the tough 11-2 loss to #23 Bailee O'Reilly (22-6, NCAA Qual. 2020).  I agree he didn't look himself.
184: Weiler loses a 13-5 major to #28 Isaiah Salazar (10-2).  Weiler looked good last weekend.  I was hoping to see more offense.
197: Amos seals the dual meet victory with a quality 6-4 win over #30 Michial Foy (11-7).  Love to see the improvement each week on the mat.
HWT: Hillger loses 23-9 to #1 Gable Steveson (6-0, NCAA and Oly. Champ).  Steveson is a monster on his feet. 

Badgers with a ton of momentum and great team chemistry.  Congratulations to all the wrestlers and coaching staff overcoming the last 2 years of adversity and fighting their way up the rankings each week.  I think this season and this team will help recruiting considerably going forward.

I love how the coaching staff never said a word publicly after Wick or Askren left (And I am a fan of both).  They just went to work with their guys and the results speak for themselves.  That tells you a lot.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: downtown on January 16, 2022, 06:07:50 PM
It always is funny when MNbadger sticks his foot in his mouth.  Earlier in the week he was predicting a loss by the badgers and wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota won 8 of the matches and implied the Amos match may be shaky.   ;D
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 07:46:50 PM
I seriously don't see how I "stuck my foot in my mouth".......? (In reference to Amos/Foy)
Good win by the Badgers. 
The Amos win was not particularly impressive.  Did you see indications that he particularly dominated Foy?  You don't think that could have gone either way?  Good gosh, Foy is ranked 30th I think.
If the dual was wrestled again, yes it could be different.
I never expected Gliva to compete as well as he did (I mentioned earlier that the Wisconsin fans expected him to win more than I did).
He is a victim of TSWS.
In regard to McNally and Weiler (who last year and coming into this year many were high on) welcome to the Big Ten.  I don't see Weiler beating Salazar going forward.  He insisted on wrestling Friday and today when the coaching staff wanted to sit him.  He has a serious ankle sprain and still majored Weiler.  And yes, wrestling injured is part of the game (which is what he did).
None of you can honestly say you expected Model to compete with Lee.  If he continues and AAs, he has to be the most improved wrestler in the nation, he was impressive.
The Badgers have made great strides.  Now the real test is the NCAA Tournament.  I still would bet the Gophers finish ahead of the Badgers this spring........
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Harris on January 16, 2022, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 16, 2022, 05:28:29 PM
Final Results:
125: #13 Eric Barnett (WISC) dec. #8 Patrick McKee (MINN), 8-5
133: #27 Kyle Burwick (WISC) dec. #24 Jake Gliva (MINN), 6-4 SV1
141: #17 Jake Bergeland (MINN) dec. #33 Joseph Zargo (WISC), 6-4
149: #10 Austin Gomez (WISC) dec. #24 Michael Blockhus (MINN), 10-6
157: #33 Garrett Model (WISC) dec. #4 Brayton Lee (MINN), 10-5
165: #8 Dean Hamiti (WISC) pinned Cael Carlson (MINN), 1:11
174: #23 Bailee O'Reilly (MINN) maj. dec. #17 Andrew McNally (WISC), 11-3
184: #28 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) maj. dec. #33 Chris Weiler (WISC), 14-5
197: #24 Braxton Amos (WISC) dec. #30 Michial Foy (MINN), 6-4
HWT: #1 Gable Steveson (MINN) maj. dec. #8 Trent Hillger (WISC), 23-9
#9 Wisconsin (21), #14 Minnesota (15)

19 of 20 wrestlers ranked in this dual.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 08:06:55 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 07:46:50 PM
I seriously don't see how I "stuck my foot in my mouth".......? (In reference to Amos/Foy)
Good win by the Badgers. 
The Amos win was not particularly impressive.  Did you see indications that he particularly dominated Foy?  You don't think that could have gone either way?  Good gosh, Foy is ranked 30th I think.
If the dual was wrestled again, yes it could be different.
I never expected Gliva to compete as well as he did (I mentioned earlier that the Wisconsin fans expected him to win more than I did).
He is a victim of TSWS.
In regard to McNally and Weiler (who last year and coming into this year many were high on) welcome to the Big Ten.  I don't see Weiler beating Salazar going forward.  He insisted on wrestling Friday and today when the coaching staff wanted to sit him.  He has a serious ankle sprain and still majored Weiler.  And yes, wrestling injured is part of the game (which is what he did).
None of you can honestly say you expected Model to compete with Lee.  If he continues and AAs, he has to be the most improved wrestler in the nation, he was impressive.
The Badgers have made great strides.  Now the real test is the NCAA Tournament.  I still would bet the Gophers finish ahead of the Badgers this spring........
Of course everyone thought he would compete with Lee. He only lost by 4 to him last season. Model has been making sizeable improvements every season.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MakingABadgerer on January 16, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 07:46:50 PM
I seriously don't see how I "stuck my foot in my mouth".......? (In reference to Amos/Foy)
Good win by the Badgers. 
The Amos win was not particularly impressive.  Did you see indications that he particularly dominated Foy?  You don't think that could have gone either way?  Good gosh, Foy is ranked 30th I think.
If the dual was wrestled again, yes it could be different.
I never expected Gliva to compete as well as he did (I mentioned earlier that the Wisconsin fans expected him to win more than I did).
He is a victim of TSWS.
In regard to McNally and Weiler (who last year and coming into this year many were high on) welcome to the Big Ten.  I don't see Weiler beating Salazar going forward.  He insisted on wrestling Friday and today when the coaching staff wanted to sit him.  He has a serious ankle sprain and still majored Weiler.  And yes, wrestling injured is part of the game (which is what he did).
None of you can honestly say you expected Model to compete with Lee.  If he continues and AAs, he has to be the most improved wrestler in the nation, he was impressive.
The Badgers have made great strides.  Now the real test is the NCAA Tournament.  I still would bet the Gophers finish ahead of the Badgers this spring........
I think the "foot in the mouth" was in response to your implication that Minnesota would win 8/10 and possibly 9/10 (if Foy beat Amos).
Keep making predictions. The board would be boring if it was a badger lovefest and no one made predictions.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 08:26:58 PM
The last time they met it was 11-6 Lee in the Big Ten tourney I think.  I don't see that as a sign of what happened today.  Like I said, Model looked great but Lee was a prohibitive favorite before the match. 
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 08:26:58 PM
The last time they met it was 11-6 Lee in the Big Ten tourney I think.  I don't see that as a sign of what happened today.  Like I said, Model looked great but Lee was a prohibitive favorite before the match.
They didn't wrestle at Big Tens and it was 11-7 in the dual. So a 4 point match can't swing to the other guy winning, but you pick it to be a major decision? What was your sign for that? You said you didn't think Model could compete with Lee. Keep backpedaling....
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 16, 2022, 08:53:42 PM
I have just one thing to say: "That's why they wrestle the matches!"  8)
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 09:26:40 PM
I just watched it again.  It was the dual from February.  It was actually 11-7, Lee.  I stand corrected by one point, I apologize.  And yes, any match can swing to the other guy winning.  You can't have it both ways.  You don't see me crowing that McKee and Gliva "could have" won their matches, but of course they were tight.  The fact remains they LOST.  Being close means little in this case.
Wisconsin wrestled a good match, Minnesota not so much.
As I said I would still put money on the Gophers finishing higher than the Badgers come spring.  Yep, I could be wrong, we'll see.   
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 16, 2022, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: MNbadger on January 16, 2022, 08:26:58 PM
The last time they met it was 11-6 Lee in the Big Ten tourney I think.  I don't see that as a sign of what happened today.  Like I said, Model looked great but Lee was a prohibitive favorite before the match.
They didn't wrestle at Big Tens and it was 11-7 in the dual. So a 4 point match can't swing to the other guy winning, but you pick it to be a major decision? What was your sign for that? You said you didn't think Model could compete with Lee. Keep backpedaling....
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dman on January 17, 2022, 07:55:53 AM
If nothing else...it sure is fun to read what he posts and never seen someone back peddle so fast in my life.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: wrastle63 on January 17, 2022, 07:57:40 AM
Quote from: dman on January 17, 2022, 07:55:53 AM
If nothing else...it sure is fun to read what he posts and never seen someone back peddle so fast in my life.
And then change the subject to well.... well I still think the Gophers will win at NCAAs.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: MNbadger on January 17, 2022, 08:15:03 AM
No, I addressed the subject directly, then followed with what I thought of the NCAA Tournament possibilities.  It is called a segue......
I think this is the third time I am saying the Badgers wrestled well.  As much as you are crowing, you'd think it had been eight years since you beat the Gophers!
Quote from: wrastle63 on January 17, 2022, 07:57:40 AM
Quote from: dman on January 17, 2022, 07:55:53 AM
If nothing else...it sure is fun to read what he posts and never seen someone back peddle so fast in my life.
And then change the subject to well.... well I still think the Gophers will win at NCAAs.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: BuckyMatt on January 17, 2022, 09:49:56 AM
The Badgers wrestled very well and I think this match was a nice culmination of a lot of the great things Bono and company have been building; Grit was shown in every match; improved wrestling in all 3 positions, and mental toughness!  This team obviously loves each other and loves competing for each other and it shows in how they wrestle and how they interact on social media!

My personal highlight was Garrett's ear to ear smile to the Badger bench as he rode out the final few seconds of his match.  ALL that hard work G has put in over the years was shown with that smile!

My head scratching moment was Bailee O'Reiley making the "Break You" motion to the entire UW bench after his victory!  Look at the Scoreboard!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: Numbers on January 17, 2022, 10:27:23 AM
While some maybe thought 157 was possible for the Badgers, there was no reason to expect a win there.

I keep going back to 133.  Burwick gave up two first period takedowns.  Clawed his way back to OT without a takedown.  Then was able to get a TD for the win.  I will admit I was hoping to win that OT in rideouts.

Really impressed with the Badgers in all positions.

Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: dad 2 5 on January 17, 2022, 12:03:55 PM
I found O'Reilly to be interesting, using his feet to grind in, smacked the face a couple of times, twisted the fingers. He is a tough, strong guy that does not need to use that to win.

The Badger really surprised me with wrestling that well on the road. I hope they are able to keep it up. This team continues to improve and this dual has to help them in seeding
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: littleguy301 on January 17, 2022, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on January 17, 2022, 12:03:55 PM
I found O'Reilly to be interesting, using his feet to grind in, smacked the face a couple of times, twisted the fingers. He is a tough, strong guy that does not need to use that to win.

The Badger really surprised me with wrestling that well on the road. I hope they are able to keep it up. This team continues to improve and this dual has to help them in seeding

I think if you dig enough you find that every wrestler has done something like that at one point of his career. O'Reilly is a top notch young man that is a great competitor on the mat.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: bigoil on January 17, 2022, 12:16:55 PM
Quote from: littleguy301 on January 17, 2022, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on January 17, 2022, 12:03:55 PM
I found O'Reilly to be interesting, using his feet to grind in, smacked the face a couple of times, twisted the fingers. He is a tough, strong guy that does not need to use that to win.

The Badger really surprised me with wrestling that well on the road. I hope they are able to keep it up. This team continues to improve and this dual has to help them in seeding

I think if you dig enough you find that every wrestler has done something like that at one point of his career. O'Reilly is a top notch young man that is a great competitor on the mat.
I would add that Hamiti was getting the crowd/bench fired up after his pin, with O'Reilly right after that maybe having something to do with it and technically, they were not out of at that point, especially with the hammer on the end.
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: littleguy301 on January 17, 2022, 12:18:33 PM
That was a good dual PERIOD!

I felt for the most part the badgers out wrestled the gophers in all 3 positions especially in the bottom position. Outside HWT. I certainly hope the badgers keep up this pace for 2 more months!

Can the badgers out wrestle the gophers 2 more time in March, I hope so!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: littleguy301 on January 17, 2022, 12:20:48 PM
I was also told that is bono's first ever win over Minnesota as a coach ever. Nice to see him get that win and he was certainly pumped the entire match!
Title: Re: UW at Minnesota January 16
Post by: TomM on January 19, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
Select Matches: Wisconsin vs. Minnesota | Big Ten Wrestling | Jan. 16, 2022

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