My sources say that Kyle Synder is in talks with Askren and Bono to bring him to the BRTC. That would be huge! We need a coach for the big guys anyway.
I stopped being a fan of his when he tweeted out last fall that Wisconsin football is the most overrated team in the country.
If this is true... as i hope he can lure Kerlivich with him.....would be a great addition to the Badgers.
Quote from: leg turk on July 30, 2018, 02:43:04 PM
I stopped being a fan of his when he tweeted out last fall that Wisconsin football is the most overrated team in the country.
I remember that but I'd selectively forget it if he came here
This would be absolutely incredible!!
that's probably correct but if you have Kyle Snyder, you might have 25 more steak fry events ;D
Let's be honest, the steak fry is small potatoes when you have guys giving $1M to Penn RTC. We need a sugar daddy or at least a group of smaller sugar uncles or something. :)
Maybe a Kyle Snyder gives our RTC legitimacy that draws higher profile donors with bigger pockets?
As we say in our process building our HS program from the ashes a couple years ago...it's a process. It doesn't happen all at once. The progress we're making on all fronts right now is EXTREMELY encouraging.
Quote from: FoldEmUp on July 31, 2018, 12:11:34 PM
Let's be honest, the steak fry is small potatoes when you have guys giving $1M to Penn RTC. We need a sugar daddy or at least a group of smaller sugar uncles or something. :)
Maybe a Kyle Snyder gives our RTC legitimacy that draws higher profile donors with bigger pockets?
As we say in our process building our HS program from the ashes a couple years ago...it's a process. It doesn't happen all at once. The progress we're making on all fronts right now is EXTREMELY encouraging.
Exactly donations are going up! There is excitement around the program. As long as Bono and Co. bring encouraging results forward this year and recruit well we will continue to move forward. It's not going to happen overnight.
I can say personally that I've never donated before and I've donated twice now and put in for matside seats. I am not your Sugar Uncle by any means but I suspect the program overall is doing better than it was a year ago.
While I am pretty sure that the million it would take to bring Snyder in isn't going to happen. What do you think the chances of bringing Dieringer to the BRTC would be? The person who shunned him from college is gone and the connection to SE Wisconsin is there on the coaching staff. He is a World Team alternate and would bring some more national title clout to the university.
Quote from: Big Steve on August 02, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
While I am pretty sure that the million it would take to bring Snyder in isn't going to happen. What do you think the chances of bringing Dieringer to the BRTC would be? The person who shunned him from college is gone and the connection to SE Wisconsin is there on the coaching staff. He is a World Team alternate and would bring some more national title clout to the university.
I like how you think, sir.
Quote from: Big Steve on August 02, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
While I am pretty sure that the million it would take to bring Snyder in isn't going to happen. What do you think the chances of bringing Dieringer to the BRTC would be? The person who shunned him from college is gone and the connection to SE Wisconsin is there on the coaching staff. He is a World Team alternate and would bring some more national title clout to the university.
I think NCAA titles and International medals are the future of the UW wrestling room.
Quote from: Ghetto on August 02, 2018, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Big Steve on August 02, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
While I am pretty sure that the million it would take to bring Snyder in isn't going to happen. What do you think the chances of bringing Dieringer to the BRTC would be? The person who shunned him from college is gone and the connection to SE Wisconsin is there on the coaching staff. He is a World Team alternate and would bring some more national title clout to the university.
I like how you think, sir.
Ditto
I think some of the targets to bring in for the RTC are(in no fancy order): Dieringer, Gross(after this year), Macey Kilty, Jesse Thielke, and Tyler Graff. These are all wrestlers who have connections to Wisconsin.
Is Ritter still on the team or did Bono give Him the boot??
Quote from: factfinder on August 03, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
Is Ritter still on the team or did Bono give Him the boot??
????
Quote from: npope on August 04, 2018, 07:03:02 AM
Quote from: factfinder on August 03, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
Is Ritter still on the team or did Bono give Him the boot??
????
There is a Rumor that Ritter was kicked off the team, I am asking if anyone knows if it's true.
That would be unfortunate if true. He was a talented wrestler. Assuming this is true, I trust there was a good reason for it.
With the coaching change, I was kind of surprised there wasn't any turnover.
There should certainly be enough scholarship money to give Moran next year.
Quote from: factfinder on August 04, 2018, 07:15:13 AM
Quote from: npope on August 04, 2018, 07:03:02 AM
Quote from: factfinder on August 03, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
Is Ritter still on the team or did Bono give Him the boot??
????
There is a Rumor that Ritter was kicked off the team, I am asking if anyone knows if it's true.
Heard that as well as a few others may be leaving.
Hmm. Don't see his name there. I figured some things would change. Glad coach Bono is taking it slow; but maybe taking some stances, also. Growth don't happen without growing pains.
The problem is if he is gone leaves a huge hole unless Reinhardt stays at 197.
Christian Pyles tweeted Hunter Ritter was given a full release.
"The problem is if he is gone leaves a huge hole unless Reinhardt stays at 197.
Indeed. I hope no one is thinking B1G team title already down two starters before the season even begins. :-[
If UW can get Tristan Moran, they would have him and Martin for 141/149.
With adding Brown at 125, Moran at 141/149 (hoping this happens), Hillger at HWT, and a healthy Zander at 157, I think we will still have a good chance to be better than last year.
We will have no depth at the upper weights if there is an injury.
Quote from: mkm13 on August 06, 2018, 07:20:28 AM
If UW can get Tristan Moran, they would have him and Martin for 141/149.
With adding Brown at 125, Moran at 141/149 (hoping this happens), Hillger at HWT, and a healthy Zander at 157, I think we will still have a good chance to be better than last year.
We will have no depth at the upper weights if there is an injury.
There are tea leaves that can be read. When asked in a video on trackwrestling this weekend who stood out Bono mentioned Jens Lanz
at 133 and also mentioned Cole Martin...see the 2:20 mark of this video: https://goo.gl/i9kj4v (https://goo.gl/i9kj4v)
What it says to me if Jens is at 133 and they are looking at bringing in Moran at 149 is that the glut of youngin's at 141/149, outside of Cole Martin, may need some more seasoning to be competitive at the level he wants us at.
So, what is the deal with Ritter leaving? A big complaint of the Davis regime was that the communication with the fans (this forum) was too opaque. Now, out of the gates, we have a solid member of the team leaving, without so much as a boo on the forum. While I understand the delicate nature of the situation from Bono's perch, fans on the forum have far more freedom.
So, what the heck happened? Start a new thread if needed so if Tom feels some privacy issues are being invaded he can delete it without deleting this entire thread. But quite honestly, more than one of the forum posters was continually complaining about Davis' lack of transparency and now...some posters seem to have inside information and they choose to sit on it. Almost makes me think Davis wasn't the problem on this particular issue.
So, what's the deal? Luke? You seem to know something.
Quote from: wrestlemania on August 06, 2018, 12:02:08 AM
"The problem is if he is gone leaves a huge hole unless Reinhardt stays at 197.
Indeed. I hope no one is thinking B1G team title already down two starters before the season even begins. :-[
I doubt anyone was thinking B1G title this year. Just hoping to see improvement in talent and progress.
Heard rumors about why and that's it. I don't really want to spread it I don't know the whole story. I'm sure there will be information soon.
From the Guillotine:
"Ritter is out at Wisconsin, I wonder if Brandvold can land him? he is a very good 197 pounder with two year of eligibility left.
My sources tell me Ritter was on his way out before Davis left for some very specific reasons....if it is true then Brandevold and MN will not touch him. "
Quote from: MNbadger on August 07, 2018, 07:11:23 AM
From the Guillotine:
"Ritter is out at Wisconsin, I wonder if Brandvold can land him? he is a very good 197 pounder with two year of eligibility left.
My sources tell me Ritter was on his way out before Davis left for some very specific reasons....if it is true then Brandevold and MN will not touch him. "
Yep some issues. Wouldn't surprise me if he went to Maryland.
Quote from: npope on August 06, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
So, what is the deal with Ritter leaving? A big complaint of the Davis regime was that the communication with the fans (this forum) was too opaque. Now, out of the gates, we have a solid member of the team leaving, without so much as a boo on the forum. While I understand the delicate nature of the situation from Bono's perch, fans on the forum have far more freedom.
So, what the heck happened? Start a new thread if needed so if Tom feels some privacy issues are being invaded he can delete it without deleting this entire thread. But quite honestly, more than one of the forum posters was continually complaining about Davis' lack of transparency and now...some posters seem to have inside information and they choose to sit on it. Almost makes me think Davis wasn't the problem on this particular issue.
So, what's the deal? Luke? You seem to know something.
I completely agree with your post. I'm glad Davis is gone definitely a step in the right direction but he kept info to the vest like he headed a national title contender protecting inside information. So far the best information we've received is a post taken from The Guillotine. Kind of disappointing.
Quote from: Barou on August 07, 2018, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: npope on August 06, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
So, what is the deal with Ritter leaving? A big complaint of the Davis regime was that the communication with the fans (this forum) was too opaque. Now, out of the gates, we have a solid member of the team leaving, without so much as a boo on the forum. While I understand the delicate nature of the situation from Bono's perch, fans on the forum have far more freedom.
So, what the heck happened? Start a new thread if needed so if Tom feels some privacy issues are being invaded he can delete it without deleting this entire thread. But quite honestly, more than one of the forum posters was continually complaining about Davis' lack of transparency and now...some posters seem to have inside information and they choose to sit on it. Almost makes me think Davis wasn't the problem on this particular issue.
So, what's the deal? Luke? You seem to know something.
I completely agree with your post. I'm glad Davis is gone definitely a step in the right direction but he kept info to the vest like he headed a national title contender protecting inside information. So far the best information we've received is a post taken from The Guillotine. Kind of disappointing.
All programs keep most information close to the vest, just part of running a program. Kind of like a tight knit family. Call it what you want but I don't think it was unusual under Coach Davis. Common place in college sports.
I have to agree. We need/want all the infor we can get, and a little more insight on upcoming matches or line-ups would be fun, but when it comes to issues with individual wrestlers, sorry they CAN'T give it out. We just have to rely on message board gossip, that's why we come here!
Quote from: Luke Louison on August 07, 2018, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: Barou on August 07, 2018, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: npope on August 06, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
So, what is the deal with Ritter leaving? A big complaint of the Davis regime was that the communication with the fans (this forum) was too opaque. Now, out of the gates, we have a solid member of the team leaving, without so much as a boo on the forum. While I understand the delicate nature of the situation from Bono's perch, fans on the forum have far more freedom.
So, what the heck happened? Start a new thread if needed so if Tom feels some privacy issues are being invaded he can delete it without deleting this entire thread. But quite honestly, more than one of the forum posters was continually complaining about Davis' lack of transparency and now...some posters seem to have inside information and they choose to sit on it. Almost makes me think Davis wasn't the problem on this particular issue.
So, what's the deal? Luke? You seem to know something.
I completely agree with your post. I'm glad Davis is gone definitely a step in the right direction but he kept info to the vest like he headed a national title contender protecting inside information. So far the best information we've received is a post taken from The Guillotine. Kind of disappointing.
I, on the other hand, completely disagree.
When it comes to telling us the schedule, letting us know about ticket packages, announcing committed recruits, sure. Be forthcoming.
But when it comes to the inner-workings of the program, no, the fans do not need to know. The last time this came up was because people were pissed Barry didn't tell us enough about Zander's injury! "Violate HIPAA, Barry, we need some chatter on the message board." He was out, that's all we needed to know, and that's what Barry gave us.
With this Hunter Ritter situation, same deal. Wrestlers don't give up their right to privacy all because they put on the singlet.
I wasn't referring to an injury. Some schools will issue statements about an athlete's release.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/5967462-penn-state-releases-official-statement-regarding-nick-suriano
Oh, I get the sensitive (and legal) nature of these kind of situations. That's why I don't send Bono an email asking him - instead I come on the forum where people aren't held to similar standards (and people like to spread gossip). When Davis held back, people were all over him like stink on poop; now suddenly the forum posters not only "get it," but also feel similarly compelled to honor the legal standards that only apply to the coaches and program administrators. Go figgir.
But I get it - nobody wants to spread ill will. Fair enough.
I only want to point out how vicious some posters were with Davis' handling of similar situations.
+1
Quote from: npope on August 07, 2018, 10:34:53 AM
Oh, I get the sensitive (and legal) nature of these kind of situations. That's why I don't send Bono an email asking him - instead I come on the forum where people aren't held to similar standards (and people like to spread gossip). When Davis held back, people were all over him like stink on poop; now suddenly the forum posters not only "get it," but also feel similarly compelled to honor the legal standards that only apply to the coaches and program administrators. Go figgir.
But I get it - nobody wants to spread ill will. Fair enough.
I only want to point out how vicious some posters were with Davis' handling of similar situations.
Isn't that what forums are for? Otherwise just read the statements they put out and figure that's all you get. Heck this is for complaining, and gossip, and rumors, and bashing, and maybe even sometimes support and excitement about new things. People on here really are not a legitimate source, just a fun source. Yes, people cut on the past coaches, and yes they may start on the new ones eventually. Yes some backed the old coaches and some will back the new coaches, who cares? If you do, this is not the place to read. The coaches should do what they have to do, no matter what us idiots on here say, but we will still talk about it. Plus I can't get UW WI wrestling gossip anywhere else.
Quote from: shakerag on August 07, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
Has Bono ever produced a successful upper weight wrestler?
Define successful? Their 174 last year was an AA. As a freshman he had 19 loses.
Quote from: Luke Louison on August 07, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: npope on August 07, 2018, 10:34:53 AM
Oh, I get the sensitive (and legal) nature of these kind of situations. That's why I don't send Bono an email asking him - instead I come on the forum where people aren't held to similar standards (and people like to spread gossip). When Davis held back, people were all over him like stink on poop; now suddenly the forum posters not only "get it," but also feel similarly compelled to honor the legal standards that only apply to the coaches and program administrators. Go figgir.
But I get it - nobody wants to spread ill will. Fair enough.
I only want to point out how vicious some posters were with Davis' handling of similar situations.
It wasn't me bashing Barry's decision to withhold sensitive info. I was here saying "It's none our business when Zander will return. He'll be back when he's back."
Didn't mean to suggest that you specifically were in on the Barry Bashing feast but rather, I was speaking more broadly. You actually present yourself well.
"I only want to point out how vicious some posters were with Davis' handling of similar situations."
Indeed especially when he wasn't exactly unusual among college coaches not calling press conferences when athletes transfer or leave the program. Some programs do give out statements but they're not going to be very detailed.
I think where some fans had a problem with the Davis regime was the lack of overall promotion of the whole program (which feeds back into the "lack of news" meme). Bono, I believe, has a better grasp of PR given his sales background and realizes he has the opportunity and the fan base hungry for wrestling info and is willing to work to push wrestling into the UW fans' sports conscience. A successful program could easily have as rabid a fan base as UW volleyball for example. But that kind of publicity is different than such transparency to where the team's internal issues are publicized. In that, Bono isn't going to be any different than Davis or hundreds of other coaches.
But the bottom line is for the UW Wrestling program to transform itself then Bono has to win on the team level greater than before and has to bring in the wrestlers to do this. It will take many changes to do this and it will take time. The best promotion for the program is not just press releases but championships, pure and simple.
Quote from: wrestlemania on August 25, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
"I only want to point out how vicious some posters were with Davis' handling of similar situations."
Indeed especially when he wasn't exactly unusual among college coaches not calling press conferences when athletes transfer or leave the program. Some programs do give out statements but they're not going to be very detailed.
I think where some fans had a problem with the Davis regime was the lack of overall promotion of the whole program (which feeds back into the "lack of news" meme). Bono, I believe, has a better grasp of PR given his sales background and realizes he has the opportunity and the fan base hungry for wrestling info and is willing to work to push wrestling into the UW fans' sports conscience. A successful program could easily have as rabid a fan base as UW volleyball for example. But that kind of publicity is different than such transparency to where the team's internal issues are publicized. In that, Bono isn't going to be any different than Davis or hundreds of other coaches.
But the bottom line is for the UW Wrestling program to transform itself then Bono has to win on the team level greater than before and has to bring in the wrestlers to do this. It will take many changes to do this and it will take time. The best promotion for the program is not just press releases but championships, pure and simple.
With that said and I think there are good points, what are your expectations for the coming season; in Bono's third season and his fifth season? I am sure Luke can give us a matrix with record projects!