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Title: Weight lifting
Post by: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
In my former HS, we use to have a board with lifting accomplishments and also had tshirts for kids in the 200# Bench, 250# Bench, etc.

Is anyone aware of their school still doing something like this, both the board and shirts? I have found examples of the board and there seems to be one company promoting their tshirt but thought I'd find some schools doing it as well.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 03, 2018, 08:07:24 AM
Seems to me Coleman still does this I remember hearing one kid that wrestled 220 this year 195 last year had broke the 1200 mark.

One sure way to get better and stronger is keep track of progress it motivates and helps get through plateaus.

We used too and when my son weighed 140 lbs he had the combined lift beat everyone on the football team but I will say he was freaky strong and was a dedicated lifter. His bench was not super high 250 but his squats and dead lift were crazy.

Best lifts for wrestling and football ; squats and power cleans, I made a bench called a sumo squat rack and that really helped keep excellent form (alignment) and increase squats with out pressure on the spine and back. My son trains athletes and he puts tremendous emphasis with his HS on the proper form.

As you know I am big fan of Suples and will be certified along with my son in June. Even at age 60 I did 850 reps Sunday morning with a 22 lb Fit Ball in 45 minutes. I am working towards the 1000 rep club with a 48 lb Bulgarian Bag. Big lifts are for those young guys but not youth until they develop form.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bkraus on April 03, 2018, 11:08:26 AM
There are boards in the weight room by us, but they are only for the football program, go figure.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 03, 2018, 02:38:41 PM
I would think if the wrestling coach did the competition he could have his own boards. I would encourage it wrestlers have some great strength to weight ratios.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 03:22:10 PM
I've seen some boards that have bench squat clean total ratio with groups of 3-4, lightweight, middleweight and heavyweights (my words). Some us lineman, big skill, skill, others under 150, 151-175, etc.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Ghetto on April 03, 2018, 06:03:53 PM
Quote from: bkraus on April 03, 2018, 11:08:26 AM
There are boards in the weight room by us, but they are only for the football program, go figure.

I was about to say same, but then I saw it was you. So right. You beat me to it.

Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Ghetto on April 03, 2018, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: ramjet on April 03, 2018, 02:38:41 PM
I would think if the wrestling coach did the competition he could have his own boards. I would encourage it wrestlers have some great strength to weight ratios.

Ram, this is a tremendous idea.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Harris on April 03, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
In my former HS, we use to have a board with lifting accomplishments and also had tshirts for kids in the 200# Bench, 250# Bench, etc.

Is anyone aware of their school still doing something like this, both the board and shirts? I have found examples of the board and there seems to be one company promoting their tshirt but thought I'd find some schools doing it as well.

:)

Hadn't thought of that board or the shirts since we were in high school.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Harris on April 03, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
In my former HS, we use to have a board with lifting accomplishments and also had tshirts for kids in the 200# Bench, 250# Bench, etc.

Is anyone aware of their school still doing something like this, both the board and shirts? I have found examples of the board and there seems to be one company promoting their tshirt but thought I'd find some schools doing it as well.

:)

Hadn't thought of that board or the shirts since we were in high school.  Good stuff.

You probably earned a couple of those shirts, I am glad you remember them I thought I was going nuts as I searched the web for them. UWSP has them as well.

My guess is now we can't give those out as it may offend those that don't put in the effort.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: MNbadger on April 04, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
We do this in district and most other district I know of do the same.  To my knowledge no one complains about it.  I can't imagine why anyone would complain.
We also do an "Ironman" Award in wrestling for perfect attendance.  Never had a complaint there either (except the cost in our good years!).
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigoil on April 04, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: MNbadger on April 04, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
We do this in district and most other district I know of do the same.  To my knowledge no one complains about it.  I can't imagine why anyone would complain.
We also do an "Ironman" Award in wrestling for perfect attendance.  Never had a complaint there either (except the cost in our good years!).

You have a board or shirts, both?
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 04, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
I think both a Board and shirts. Recognizing the hard work and extra effort makes for a competitive environment and also gives a sense of accomplishment. My son loves T-shirts from his wrestling years and we even had them made into two huge quilts last year. But to be in school wear a wrestling t-shirt that shows you being part of the 800-900-1000-1200 lb club is big deal and should worn with pride.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigG on April 04, 2018, 10:41:14 AM
We do the records board. Used to have shirts. When I was in HS, we had combined weights, pull ups, dips, etc. and the one young man with the most points was our 'Strong man" that came with a Tshirt.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: MNbadger on April 04, 2018, 10:59:47 AM
Football does both.  They also do %.  Football also has an Ironman competition at the beginning of their season
We did not do one specific to wrestling though we might in our new facility.  I have not been that involved in weight training, expecting the kids to deal with it on their own in the off-season.  I have never coached a kid who lost because they weren't strong enough.  Usually it is that they are not good enough wrestlers or not in good enough shape.We are in the process of redoing this as we have new facilities.  All of our wrestling stuff is gone as I stepped down some years ago.  I am back trying to institute many things. 
Quote from: bigoil on April 04, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: MNbadger on April 04, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
We do this in district and most other district I know of do the same.  To my knowledge no one complains about it.  I can't imagine why anyone would complain.
We also do an "Ironman" Award in wrestling for perfect attendance.  Never had a complaint there either (except the cost in our good years!).

You have a board or shirts, both?
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Harris on April 04, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Quote from: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Harris on April 03, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: bigoil on April 03, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
In my former HS, we use to have a board with lifting accomplishments and also had tshirts for kids in the 200# Bench, 250# Bench, etc.

Is anyone aware of their school still doing something like this, both the board and shirts? I have found examples of the board and there seems to be one company promoting their tshirt but thought I'd find some schools doing it as well.

:)

Hadn't thought of that board or the shirts since we were in high school.  Good stuff.

You probably earned a couple of those shirts, I am glad you remember them I thought I was going nuts as I searched the web for them. UWSP has them as well.

My guess is now we can't give those out as it may offend those that don't put in the effort.

I mostly remember Andresek and Perra wearing them all the time and Perra's was never washed.   ;)
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Ledger on April 04, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: ramjet on April 04, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
I think both a Board and shirts. Recognizing the hard work and extra effort makes for a competitive environment and also gives a sense of accomplishment. My son loves T-shirts from his wrestling years and we even had them made into two huge quilts last year. But to be in school wear a wrestling t-shirt that shows you being part of the 800-900-1000-1200 lb club is big deal and should worn with pride.
Just curious, are those totals for traditional power-lifting lifts, or is it squat-bench-clean? 
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 04, 2018, 04:56:55 PM
Squat-bench-deadlift

Squat-Bench-cleans

The totals can be whatever just threw those out there.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: DocWrestling on April 04, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
We have a record board that is for all lifts, vertical, long jump, etc that is for the whole school, all athletes and non-athletes.  Each one is broken down by weight at time such as 125, 150, 175, 200, 225, over.  Which ever the lowest you are under at time of lift is the record.  Records are broken all the time so it is a grease and the kids get to go up and write there name in.

We don't have T-shirts
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigoil on April 04, 2018, 07:24:11 PM
Thanks Doc, that is perfect and while I think a wrestling board is cool, I think the entire school should be in, not just wrestling or football which is often the case.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigG on April 05, 2018, 06:15:32 AM
Our weightroom records are schoolwide. Our biggest issue is the farm kids think they work hard enough on the farm. 20 years agao that would have been true, when they were chuckin' small bales. Now, I'm afraid carpal tunnel  will set in from the skidsteer joystick.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 05, 2018, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: bigG on April 05, 2018, 06:15:32 AM
Our weightroom records are schoolwide. Our biggest issue is the farm kids think they work hard enough on the farm. 20 years agao that would have been true, when they were chuckin' small bales. Now, I'm afraid carpal tunnel  will set in from the skidsteer joystick.

Now that's funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: Jimmy on April 05, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
I believe your mistaken big G. The farmkids set in the farm office and run the autominis tractor with their smart phone. That's where the carpal tunnel comes from. The legal  ;D immigrants run the skid steer.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ChargerDad on April 06, 2018, 05:52:21 AM
We have a school wide board with bench, clean, squat, and a few other measurables including I think 1m run, broad jump, and vertical.  It has one row for each grade 8th-12th.  It would be awesome to have it by weight to give the smaller guys something to shoot for other than their personal best..  Though, IMO, if you need the board to motivate you to work hard, you are already in trouble..
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 06, 2018, 07:01:52 AM
Quote from: ChargerDad on April 06, 2018, 05:52:21 AM
We have a school wide board with bench, clean, squat, and a few other measurables including I think 1m run, broad jump, and vertical.  It has one row for each grade 8th-12th.  It would be awesome to have it by weight to give the smaller guys something to shoot for other than their personal best..  Though, IMO, if you need the board to motivate you to work hard, you are already in trouble..

Yes that would be excellent with weight categories. My son does some personal training they have young man that weighs 85 lbs squatting with really excellent form 150 lbs. The recognition should come from weight to strength ratio. Or strength at that weight. For wrestlers it would showcase the high level of fitness they have. The other thing that they do in Phyed class is the pacer and it is really competitive the time on that is the measure.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: bigG on April 06, 2018, 07:13:38 AM
Quote from: Jimmy on April 05, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
I believe your mistaken big G. The farmkids set in the farm office and run the autominis tractor with their smart phone. That's where the carpal tunnel comes from. The legal  ;D immigrants run the skid steer.

Sadly, it is like that on the some of the big farms.
Title: Re: Weight lifting
Post by: ramjet on April 07, 2018, 07:51:45 AM
You know some of this has to be driven by the folks in the Districts or the coaches or volunteers. Awe used to go down to Bay Port for some wrestling on Sinday nights that Dennis Hall ran there weight room was crazy well stocked and had allot of people in them. The wall was filled with recognition awards.

Weight room work is a year round requirement but the off season is most important how many schools or facilities have supervision? Remember your school is tax payer funded it should be available for anyone to use. The ideas here are great but it takes a person to drive it and organize these efforts.