How long before they announce WWF state series is cancelled?

[padre]

Again let's use USA wrestling's words.  They are suspending all "non-essential" activities and allowing "essential" activities.

This is similar to what is going on in society.

Work is deemed essential at this time even though everyone knows that it brings risk of spread.

School was deemed essential until recently yet some school services will remain "essential".  Many districts will continue to provide meals for kids that need it and will provide online sources for those that do not have it.

All sports and other activities are considered "non-essential" which makes sense whether I like it or not.

Governor Evers is giving all schools two days to tidy up "essential" services "if needed".  Many districts will be closed Monday and Tuesday.  Gladly ours is not.

As far as your political slants, many republican politicians have actually placed more restrictive and longer suspensions of school and gatherings so I thing this is far from any political motivation.

Plus 10000

[greysquirrelmobile]

There are a million decisions made in a day by leaders and people are entitled to second guess in our country because we are the greatest country in the world.  Leaders have to be handle it whether you are the coach of the Packers, the POTUS or the Wisconsin Guv.

As Colonel Jessep Said: 

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide

Obviously not military decisions here, but these decisions aren't made with the flip of a coin....we need to have some faith in this country that our leaders, regardless of political affiliation or organization are trying to do the best they can.

[DocWrestling]

are trying to do the best they can.

This is exactly what everyone needs to realize.  There are a million unknowns here and thus no definitive answers

[MNbadger]

Back to talking politics with the hit and run Ramjet.....sad.
How do you make a connection to socialism with this?!?!   

The only practices that could even be considered after Wednesday would have to be conducted outside schools.  No way schools are going to allow you in.

I think this is a complete over-reaction but common sense is that if our college sports teams and high school teams can't even practice for baseball or track, why would we be holding youth wrestling practices.

I think our youth athletes have minimal risk but as a board member on our wrestling and baseball organizations,  I am voting for no practices at all basically for the sole reason I do not want to get sued.  Protect your liability.  Boards will be sued if a child got sick or child was a carrier to an adult that got sick.

I am all for kids getting together with each other or a dad but as a coach and board member no way am I holding an organized practice until school resumes.

In the words of USA wrestling that will be used, are any of these practices "essential" or are they "non-essential"

So the great leader Evers says Wednesday as the date, does that mean the virus is not contagious on Monday and Tuesday? If it's such an emergency why not shut school down immediately? They do it all the time for snow storms. Hope everyone loves this introduction to socialism. 

Sued? Really that's hilarious how would they prove you caused the Covid-19.... Maybe they should file civil litigation against the Chinese Government........ Absolutely hilarious. If your sick stay home. Wash your hands.

[wrastle63]

Started with youth wrestling being cancelled and some hosting camps, practices, and tournaments and turns into socialism lol

[MNbadger]

Where to begin....

Yes, it appears the danger is less to young people.  The danger is that they can carry it and spread it to others who are at more risk (the old and infirm).  All of this has been explained ad nauseam.
Just one consideration in closing schools is that then health care workers will have to stay home with their children further taxing the system needed to take care of the diseased (just one reason MN has held of closing schools for now).  This is different than a snow day as in this case the closings are likely to be long term necessitating the students having their devices at home and any other items they might need long term.  To all of this there is calculated risk. 
The "docs" are on the same page, they are telling you not to have practice as it is an unnecessary risk.  It is not about trying to control you or anyone else Ramjet.  You see conspiracy everywhere.  This kind of attitude is what put us behind the eight ball on this in the first place. 
If you can't see the different levels of risk between someone preparing and delivering food in a safe manner and a youth wrestling practice you are a risk to yourself and all of us.
If you listened, Evers is listening to his medical people.  If you watched, Andrea Palm was there. 
These decisions are founded in science, haven't you been listening?  The doubling rate at this point is six days.  As this happens everything gets stretched more and more, medical professionals and hospitals, supplies, etc.  Yes, there are more deaths from influenza at this point but this stuff is by most accounts 10X deadlier.  Additionally it appears to leave many with permanent diminished lung capacity which influenza tends not to. 
There is more I could address in your post but I am tired and I don't think I'll get through to you.
Think of this; suppose you are right and Covid19 is nothing.  The things that we missed or were cancelled are not more important than being safe in the face of a possible health problem like this appears to be.  And to close, I still can't see ho this is political in any way much less socialism?!?!

Political slant? If that was me, I would like to know where it was.

That was directed to Ramjet

Political slant ? Evers declare a state of emergency and then use that to close schools? Simple answer yes so is it an emergency or isn't it. The information on all of this is still not defined and all so called experts are all over the board as to lethality of this virus especially when speaking to school age kids. the statistics however say it is not lethal to young children as it is to older folks with compromised immune systems.

Again they can cancel school for snow days with the snap of a finger. Do they say hey let's give you all some time to get your stuff together and the kids can come. NOPE schools is off period end of story.

Now I see you did not address your ridiculous statement about civil litigation.

I for one have zero interest in politicians on either side of isle trying to control my daily living. Of course if I get ill I stay home I know enough during those times not visit or go around sick or compromised or even healthy people. I also think if parents or whoever want to have wrestling practice it's fine it's small gathering of kids. You need someone to tell what is acceptable or not that's your deal politics has zero to do with it. Common sense , wash your hands , stay home of your sick if there is an event and you do not feel comfortable then do not go to it . Freedom is great that way you have the choice life is full of them. Some schools are delivering lunches to home for the kids. I bet you think this a great thing right? What if the person delivering is infected?  Marshal law is scary crapola think about that for a moment. Not politics but control through fear without foundation in science is fear mongering. Common sense makes more sense.

It's hard for me understand some gathering of people are ok but others are not. Is it an emergency or isn't it? That's simple straight forward question. Essential vs non-essential Evers is making that call or are the scientist and doctors? Seems the docs are not even on the same page on this. I sure heck am not listening to the media they sensationalism everything. Fear mongering when elderly say they cannot even buy hand soap, toilet paper or chicken breasts because people are hoarding that's the real issue.

Is it an emergency or isn't it?

[littleguy301]

I am a huge proponent of education but am perfectly fine if they do nothing online and don't have to make it up.  Our kids will be fine with one less month of education in their lives.  My oldest son is only worried about passing his AP exams at the end of the year and they have other study help for those.

Let kids relax and not have to bring more stress to them and their families.  Try to turn a historical event into some positives and let the kids act like they just got the longest snow day ever!

Dont understand this at all.

I understand your child thinking. I doubt you would be this laid back if you child gets a 1 or 2 on the national exam. I am all for some online learning. Yes it is not for everyone and I understand all the pros and negatives. I look at this time is a great time for those college bound kids to take their education into their own hands. Start getting used to what college life is about.

For the non college types their is alot of help that will be needed in most communities. Mayne they will find a craft they are into.

I think most educators understand this and are planning for this. My son is in ap classes also. Basically they already have what is needed of them laid out in front of them. They can communicate with other classmates in several ways you get projects done.

[MNbadger]

I could ask you the same question you led with in your post.  I explained the purpose of the actions you questioned in your initial post. 
To reiterate, the delay in closing schools is so students and educators can prepare for a possible long term closing. This is very different from the snow day you were comparing this with.  Rarely does a school closing for snow last more than a day.  So you see, this is very different.  Without question the two or three day delay could result in a small increase in cases but officials weigh this against the needs of the students and educators being prepared for the possible long term closure of schools.
These officials are doing what they were elected, appointed, and educated to do. 
Let me guess, you think you know more than your State health director about this because she has a college degree?!?!
You seem to be obsessed with  imagining everyone but you are "prisoners of fear".  How is making a calculated, educated decision about a health threat construed by you as being fearful?!?
I know for a fact I am not a "prisoner fo fear" because I can comprehend what our health professionals are telling us (remember for most of them, this is their life, they are experts).
You insult everyone of us when you assume we are "prisoners of fear" because we are willing to listen and assess information.
I hate to break it to you but you are not the only person teaching your children skills and parenting.  You are so absorbed in your own mind you are missing everything in regard to this virus.  You don't love wrestling more than I do nor more than anyone else on the site.  Stopping practices makes sense and none of this will harm our sport.   Do you not see that the close contact in wrestling is different from going out and keeping a six foot distance from others? 
When I referred to your hit and run in regard to politics I was not referring to you leaving your house.  I am referring to the expectations of the site for not bringing up politics.  You hit and run when you accuse Ever's dealing with the health crisis as "socialism" and then the rest of us are supposed to let it lie (I can't believe I had to explain this to you).
Well, that's all for now.  I have to get to that honey do list! 

Where to begin....

Yes, it appears the danger is less to young people.  The danger is that they can carry it and spread it to others who are at more risk (the old and infirm).  All of this has been explained ad nauseam.
Just one consideration in closing schools is that then health care workers will have to stay home with their children further taxing the system needed to take care of the diseased (just one reason MN has held of closing schools for now).  This is different than a snow day as in this case the closings are likely to be long term necessitating the students having their devices at home and any other items they might need long term.  To all of this there is calculated risk. 
The "docs" are on the same page, they are telling you not to have practice as it is an unnecessary risk.  It is not about trying to control you or anyone else Ramjet.  You see conspiracy everywhere.  This kind of attitude is what put us behind the eight ball on this in the first place. 
If you can't see the different levels of risk between someone preparing and delivering food in a safe manner and a youth wrestling practice you are a risk to yourself and all of us.
If you listened, Evers is listening to his medical people.  If you watched, Andrea Palm was there. 
These decisions are founded in science, haven't you been listening?  The doubling rate at this point is six days.  As this happens everything gets stretched more and more, medical professionals and hospitals, supplies, etc.  Yes, there are more deaths from influenza at this point but this stuff is by most accounts 10X deadlier.  Additionally it appears to leave many with permanent diminished lung capacity which influenza tends not to. 
There is more I could address in your post but I am tired and I don't think I'll get through to you.
Think of this; suppose you are right and Covid19 is nothing.  The things that we missed or were cancelled are not more important than being safe in the face of a possible health problem like this appears to be.  And to close, I still can't see ho this is political in any way much less socialism?!?!

Political slant? If that was me, I would like to know where it was.

That was directed to Ramjet

Political slant ? Evers declare a state of emergency and then use that to close schools? Simple answer yes so is it an emergency or isn't it. The information on all of this is still not defined and all so called experts are all over the board as to lethality of this virus especially when speaking to school age kids. the statistics however say it is not lethal to young children as it is to older folks with compromised immune systems.

Again they can cancel school for snow days with the snap of a finger. Do they say hey let's give you all some time to get your stuff together and the kids can come. NOPE schools is off period end of story.

Now I see you did not address your ridiculous statement about civil litigation.

I for one have zero interest in politicians on either side of isle trying to control my daily living. Of course if I get ill I stay home I know enough during those times not visit or go around sick or compromised or even healthy people. I also think if parents or whoever want to have wrestling practice it's fine it's small gathering of kids. You need someone to tell what is acceptable or not that's your deal politics has zero to do with it. Common sense , wash your hands , stay home of your sick if there is an event and you do not feel comfortable then do not go to it . Freedom is great that way you have the choice life is full of them. Some schools are delivering lunches to home for the kids. I bet you think this a great thing right? What if the person delivering is infected?  Marshal law is scary crapola think about that for a moment. Not politics but control through fear without foundation in science is fear mongering. Common sense makes more sense.

It's hard for me understand some gathering of people are ok but others are not. Is it an emergency or isn't it? That's simple straight forward question. Essential vs non-essential Evers is making that call or are the scientist and doctors? Seems the docs are not even on the same page on this. I sure heck am not listening to the media they sensationalism everything. Fear mongering when elderly say they cannot even buy hand soap, toilet paper or chicken breasts because people are hoarding that's the real issue.

Is it an emergency or isn't it?

I didn't say Evers was wrong but an emergency is an emergency. Taking two more days to close seems like they are not sure what they are doing. If it is an emergency so be it then close ASAP. This is conflicting. I will not be a prisoner of fear. You want too go ahead that's your choice. By the way I didn't post politics and run I actually do this during the weekend and spent a great day outdoors and put some delicious pheasant in my freezer.

Again if folks want to get groups together and have some wrestling practice awesome plenty of clubs to go to. Small groups common sense ,if your sick stay home, wash your hands, don't panic and exercise and eat well to stay healthy.

Education minutes of instruction and state testing; Evers will most likely waive minutes of instruction this year and likely suspend state testing the results will be garbage anyways. I got an idea; if your home do a project teach your kids a skill. Not everyone has to go to college. I bet many have a honey do list that is years in the making what great time to get quality time. Do not isolate yourself or go buy all freaking toilet paper don't teach your children to be prisoners of fear. The biggest issue is a healthcare system that will be overloaded for two reasons FEAR and because it's not equipped to handle the potential influx and even medical people get sick to further strap the system. Again common sense stay away from old compromised people if your sick. But for goodness sakes stops listening to the media they are idiots.

MNBadger read my posts not into them.

[littleguy301]

I get it that maybe wi fi is limited in some area.

There is also data plans on cell phones and also programs to pay for more data.

I also understand that there are places you cannt get any wi fi or cell phone.  Now simply those people will have to contact the schools, inform them and those situations have to be worked out. Not my call but those situations are probably small but very important.

I hope some sort of learning can be done. Every day you should learn something new.

[MNbadger]

Good gosh Ramjet, there was nothing conflicting about your governor's message.  It is very clear to the rest of us.  Seriously, you need to work on comprehension.  All of the decisions are CALCULATED and WEIGHTED against the data and experience.  To enlighten you a bit more, this is done every day in society and business.  We may find out a week from now we have to ramp up our response.  You live in an all or nothing world (that would be a fantasy world).  To you, the only response would be complete and utter quarantine to justify any response.
I absolutely did not read anything into your post.  You called Ever's response "socialism", making clear your intent to make this political. 
As always you are reliable Ramjet.  You post and then when called out, you backpedal and change the point. 
I choose to believe those who make their life work scientific study and research for a life time.  You go ahead and demonstrate your willful, prideful ignorance in all this......you'll show 'em!

MNBadger that is ludicrous if it is an emergency then that's what it is. The comparison to the snow day  is valid.

Is it an emergency where the health and well being of the students and staff are at potential risk then two days makes ZERO SENSE well unless the risk is not as great as some make it out....the Virus is NOT going to take Monday through Wednesday off  as you may be thinking.....

What the heck you pulled the ole handbook out of that one; actually my wife and I are the ones who taught our children to be respectful and a work ethic. We gave them the tools to be great and easy kids for educators like you to take the credit LOL. Plus that has zero to with the fact that they declared a state of emergency and said no extra curricular activities but let's have school for three more days just because the virus will take those days off. Lots of conflict there. Is this an emergency or not? The term emergency has very distinct meaning. Now had he come out and said this is a necessary precaution not really an emergency then the latitude could be explained but he declared a State of Emergency either there is competence in that declaration or there isn't.

I said I read that I would not be prisoner of fear. IF you are that's your deal but I will not be.

Again you need to stop letting your political preferences read into my posts.

If you want your kids to wrestle practice and stay active find a group of parents or club that will have practice make your own mind up do not allow others to control your freedom. Be smart use common sense I would rather see the kids on the mat instead of at the theater or mall.

It's YOUR choice MNbadger not mine not anyone else's. But stop defending the Gov he sent a conflicting message.

[littleguy301]

I dont think it is all that conflicting at all.

Governor said by Wednesday, March 18 the schools will be closed. Some schools closed that day on the spot, some school needed a day or two to get the kids set up for work, computers and etc.

What I was told the peak of this virus is still some days out so state wise and nationally we are in front of the peak so we have time to get our ducks in a row before we are into the peak virus time.

I think the emergency part is coming in some more days but we also have to prepare for it.

Example time. When you go deer hunting the opening day of hunting you dont get your license,  sight your gun in, ask permission to hunt land, set up a deer stand, buy some orange and call it good. Usually most have some prep time to do so but most people call still that time hinting season.

[TomM]

NO POLITICS

Refrain voluntarily, or face indiscriminate bans.

Your choice fellas.

Thanks, in advance, for your voluntary compliance.

[wrastle63]

It is almost like the same people get warned over and over about talking politics....

[bigoil]

MNBadger - it is a conflicted message when we close all things to any group of people but then open school for two days only to close it for 2.5 weeks after that.

For the record, I hope the president comes on and mandates closures for schools, stores, restaurants and bars for a 2 week time period. As of now, those that are staying home are helping but after the 2-3 weeks, these people that insist on gathering in masses will only subject us all to it later. If we all did nothing, it will dissipate as proven by China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore.

We could instead be Italy and go about our business and then have a massive problem and then shut down.

[MNbadger]

As I stated before, this is completely calculated and measured.  There needs to be preparation for school closure.  Even with the decision to close, there are drawbacks (some of which I mentioned). 
Minnesota Governor Walz was on tv an hour ago explaining this and many other issues.
One of his statements that struck me was that we should not let perfect be the enemy of the good. This is very apropos in this situation. 
There is some belief that closing schools for two or three weeks is not enough.  Officials can reassess going forward.  As our governor said, it is a fluid situation. 
The goal is to dampen the speed of the spread.  The spread is inevitable. 
For the most part we are taking precautions as a society unlike Italy which has very little to no public health organization.  The things our officials are doing is to keep from ending up like Italy.  When individuals don't behave safely, it risks the health of the rest of us. 
If you are still not clear on the decisions, you can view the governor's presentation online. 

MNBadger - it is a conflicted message when we close all things to any group of people but then open school for two days only to close it for 2.5 weeks after that.

For the record, I hope the president comes on and mandates closures for schools, stores, restaurants and bars for a 2 week time period. As of now, those that are staying home are helping but after the 2-3 weeks, these people that insist on gathering in masses will only subject us all to it later. If we all did nothing, it will dissipate as proven by China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore.

We could instead be Italy and go about our business and then have a massive problem and then shut down.